Where are all the happy people?

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Is it me?

Online, the chat channel is filled with "this is rubbish", "that doesn't work" "cryptic should....", "I can't believe that they....".

People also seem to enjoy flaming each other, helpful advice is often clogged up with sarcastic comments.

These forums seem the same too, take the thread "how not to waste skill points again ever" in the advice section. Some guy goes to the trouble to explain his views on how the BO points work in his experience. First two responses say "thanks". The others are either a) slating him for being WRONG! (how dare he) or slating STO for not doing it their way "why isn't there a 'kill every ship in the area' skill at level one, this game is rubbish".

MMORPG's are what you make of them. can't we all just be nice to each other and have a little patience with STO while it finds its feet? I know it costs money, but I don't know of a game worthy of the name that didn't have glitches and bugs when it first came out.....But one of the major factors for people playing an MMO is the community....

If you don't like the way it's done, why not do us a favour and vote with your feet instead of bringing the rest of us down about it all?

Or is it me? where are the happy people?

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It's not human nature to discuss the positive. :/

Most people would rather focus on the negatives.

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Then again the game might just simply be poor. Why is that never a possibility?

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Then again the game might just simply be poor. Why is that never a possibility?

It is a possibility. But that's a matter of opinion, so poor/good is not a "truth."

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most people are
1) Busy working
2) taking in RL
3) Asleep
4) palying the game rather than posting in forums

Only reason forums busy is due to the maintenance going on atm

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Well, I'm generally happy with the game, overall. There's a few things that are blatantly missing or unfinished, and the game has an overall "Rushed out the door by Atari" feel to it that I've come to expect from Atari. (Didn't those guys go out of business in the 80s? LOL?)

But due to the general unhappiness of the population that you've mentioned, and is hard not to notice when you're playing the game, I tend to keep to myself, keep chat closed, try not to get caught up in the flames and sarcasm in the game while playing.

I guess I'm like a lot of other folks: Too busy trying to enjoy the game that's there instead of complain about the game that I think it should be.

I'm a lifer, though, so I probably have a zen attitude about it and what I hope Cryptic eventually does to make everything better.

Plus, I'm an older gamer, who has been there for quite a few MMO launches, and most of this is stuff I've already been battle hardened by. :cool:


/K

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It's not human nature to discuss the positive. :/

Most people would rather focus on the negatives.

honestly this. It's also why the News is filled with negative..people dying...earth threatening storms/quakes/etc...death destruction.

we as a race thrive on the negative for some pathetic reason.

far as the forums go...by default forums are the most negative...it's where unhappy people and trolls come to complain, whine, and...troll (yes some just get off on trolling for the sake of it.) People happy are playing...

I come to the forums because it's what I do when I'm bored...I see the positive and negative of this game and really don't sway more to one or the other side (well since I sub you can say I swing more towards positive)

but it is funny..to be honest...other then Champions Online and Star Trek Online I've not played an MMO (and I've tried 99% of them all) where most of the chat is filled with poeple complaining about how the game plays etc...it is actually something to be concerned over..whether you agree with those people or not...if numbers dwindle because most aren't happy the game WILL suffer.

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most people are
1) Busy working
2) taking in RL
3) Asleep
4) palying the game rather than posting in forums

Only reason forums busy is due to the maintenance going on atm

5) in Fleets, talking to their friends. After I joined a fleet and shut off the Local and Zone-chats, I enjoy the game a lot more. :)

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Hello OP,
You've just experienced server maintenance time on the forums.
When the servers are up, the forums go quiet(er) than usual.

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It is a possibility. But that's a matter of opinion, so poor/good is not a "truth."

A (maybe) half-complete product that b-stardizes intellectual property is grounds for "poor" regardless of whether a person likes it or doesn't.

For instance, flies love feces.

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it is the nature of man, even if we had everything we would still find things to complain about.

Anyway remember that most people just read forums, they dont post as they see no need to join the..show.

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I'm enjoying the game myself. Is there room for improvement, sure. But it's no worse than any other MMORPG at such an early stage, and a damn site better than a lot of them have been. That is, of course, my opinion, based on my experiences over the last 12 years of playing online games.

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I was happy. My internetz got shaped for too much downloadage, so now the patching is going slow. That makes me angry.:mad:

Otherwise I'd not be on these forums and I'd be in the game instead. Still having a blast!

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Well, I'm generally happy with the game, overall. There's a few things that are blatantly missing or unfinished, and the game has an overall "Rushed out the door by Atari" feel to it that I've come to expect from Atari. (Didn't those guys go out of business in the 80s? LOL?)

But due to the general unhappiness of the population that you've mentioned, and is hard not to notice when you're playing the game, I tend to keep to myself, keep chat closed, try not to get caught up in the flames and sarcasm in the game while playing.

I guess I'm like a lot of other folks: Too busy trying to enjoy the game that's there instead of complain about the game that I think it should be.

I'm a lifer, though, so I probably have a zen attitude about it and what I hope Cryptic eventually does to make everything better.

Plus, I'm an older gamer, who has been there for quite a few MMO launches, and most of this is stuff I've already been battle hardened by. :cool:


/K

What he said, pretty much. I have some issues with the game but I'm having fun so far and am too busy playing than to pay attention to idiots in zone chat.

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[QUOTE=serlot]Is it me?

Online, the chat channel is filled with "this is rubbish", "that doesn't work" "cryptic should....", "I can't believe that they....".

People also seem to enjoy flaming each other, helpful advice is often clogged up with sarcastic comments.

Happy person here! I agree wiht you completely, but having tried to post a few threads like this myself I can tell you that you are wasteing your time - people will even use this thread to complain about the game lol. I've come to the conclusion that the forum is for whineing (I dont mind constructive criticism) while most people are in the game happily playing. There are many tragic people on this forum still posting after claiming to have cancelled their sub or gotten a refund - if they're not here to speak grief then I dont know why they are.

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... I tend to keep to myself, keep chat closed, try not to get caught up in the flames and sarcasm in the game while playing. ...

This is what I've been doing. Kinda defeats the MM part of MMO though.

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The people that like the game are busy playing.
Though the game does have some issues overall I like it and am having a good time.
Also some of the chronic complaining in the game chat may lessen once the game purchase grace period expires.


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Is it me?

Online, the chat channel is filled with "this is rubbish", "that doesn't work" "cryptic should....", "I can't believe that they....".

People also seem to enjoy flaming each other, helpful advice is often clogged up with sarcastic comments.

These forums seem the same too, take the thread "how not to waste skill points again ever" in the advice section. Some guy goes to the trouble to explain his views on how the BO points work in his experience. First two responses say "thanks". The others are either a) slating him for being WRONG! (how dare he) or slating STO for not doing it their way "why isn't there a 'kill every ship in the area' skill at level one, this game is rubbish".

MMORPG's are what you make of them. can't we all just be nice to each other and have a little patience with STO while it finds its feet? I know it costs money, but I don't know of a game worthy of the name that didn't have glitches and bugs when it first came out.....But one of the major factors for people playing an MMO is the community....

If you don't like the way it's done, why not do us a favour and vote with your feet instead of bringing the rest of us down about it all?

Or is it me? where are the happy people?


Look. I hear what you're saying, man. And I can dig it.


But this is the internet, bro! And an MMO on top of that. The untamed masses of the worlds nerds assemble here for a battle of supremacy. ....Or you can just call it trolling.

I love trolling sometimes. It can be funny, witty, and just what a ridiculous discussion needs sometimes. I've seen a great lot of this kind here. When I think of that, I have to smile.

But what I also see, is a bunch of people trying to jump on that bandwagon when they can't even walk so to speak. There are some mean, bitter spiteful people. Sometimes I just want to give them a piece of my mind. ARTISTIC TROLL FAIL. They suck at trolling so in their futile attempt to grasp at the troll king title they end up saying something cruel and idiotic.

I know that I'll never have a relationship in STO with that person. Because they'll either be

1. Gone after 30 days for the most part. Stragglers will soon quiet down.

2. End up getting banned or shunned for their behavior.

Whatever comes first, more power to them. Because for me... I just don't listen to them. They are background noise to me. I find cool people all over STO. Its an interesting place filled with filthy space aliens.... bunch of borg bodies soon. Then will be the day of my YUMSKI and the thanksgiving dinner begins.

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It happens at every launch. I truly believe that this IS the game for many, many people.

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Im a happy person but was afk making a bacon butty. Back now.

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@ Topic: Try Cryptic Headquaters...

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This happy person has been playing the game and enjoying it, rather then spend time posting on a forum. Only reason I'm posting at all now is cause I'm at work >.>;

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Or is it me? where are the happy people?

Happy people are playing, not spamming the forums.

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I'm very happy with STO.
Learn to ignore the "whiners" and your game experience will get better.

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This happy person has been playing the game and enjoying it, rather then spend time posting on a forum. Only reason I'm posting at all now is cause I'm at work >.>;

Ditto.

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Re. OP: It's an MMO forum. If you look up 'unpleasable fanbase' in the dictionary you will find a picture of MMO players.

The happy people aren't showing up on the forums because they're too busy having fun on the game.

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It is a possibility. But that's a matter of opinion, so poor/good is not a "truth."

Neither is categorizing people's comments and thoughts as negative.. That attitude, in its very nature, is negative. Also not a "truth".

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Well I'm glad to have started debate. I guess I was just getting down with all the negativity. It's good to see lots of people saying "actually I'm having fun", I feel warm and fuzzy now. :)

In terms of complaints being negative, you're right, no, not of themselves. But the difference is;

"It would be nice if there were more non combat orientated ground missions, perhaps with puzzles to solve, but appreciate cryptic have more important things right now, but hopefully one day".

That is a complaint, but positive.

"this game was rushed out the door, it sucks, why did cryptic not test it properly, I tell you what, If I was there <bleurgh, blah, drivel>"

THAT'S is a negative, and there is way too much of it.

Like others have said, I have turned off chat and just talk to my fleet, which is a shame as there are good guys out there. I too am an older gamer and remember ******** not being on for more than two hours at a time for the first month, SWG always being full of bugs, EVE is not the paragon that people seem to think, doesn't stop me loving any of them.

Finally though, I agree with the main sentiment of the positivists here. I too will go now and have too much darn fun to whinge about the game. As a lifer, I too probably have a zen attitude to it all.

This game has the potential to blow all of the other sci-fi mmos away, it has the IP, it has the engine and it has the will, so I am going to enjoy every minute of it.

LLAP all,

See you in space!

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I'm still happy.
So happy.

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Is it me?

Online, the chat channel is filled with "this is rubbish", "that doesn't work" "cryptic should....", "I can't believe that they....".

People also seem to enjoy flaming each other, helpful advice is often clogged up with sarcastic comments.

These forums seem the same too, take the thread "how not to waste skill points again ever" in the advice section. Some guy goes to the trouble to explain his views on how the BO points work in his experience. First two responses say "thanks". The others are either a) slating him for being WRONG! (how dare he) or slating STO for not doing it their way "why isn't there a 'kill every ship in the area' skill at level one, this game is rubbish".

MMORPG's are what you make of them. can't we all just be nice to each other and have a little patience with STO while it finds its feet? I know it costs money, but I don't know of a game worthy of the name that didn't have glitches and bugs when it first came out.....But one of the major factors for people playing an MMO is the community....

If you don't like the way it's done, why not do us a favour and vote with your feet instead of bringing the rest of us down about it all?

Or is it me? where are the happy people?

I fully agree.
There are so many unhappy people around, Im HAPPY to be with a happy fleet.
I hope that people will relax and stop creating bad karma for themselves and others on the game.

Anyway, see you all in game!

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4) palying the game rather than posting in forums

This. People playing the game and having fun don't post nearly as much as people hating everything...

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A (maybe) half-complete product that b-stardizes intellectual property is grounds for "poor" regardless of whether a person likes it or doesn't.

For instance, flies love feces.

Again a matter of opinion. As far as Flies love feces analogy is concerned there must be lot of stuff that we hate and you absolutely love. So i guess that makes you a fly on feces too. (of course in our opinion)

See what i did there? ;)

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Well, I'm generally happy with the game, overall. There's a few things that are blatantly missing or unfinished, and the game has an overall "Rushed out the door by Atari" feel to it that I've come to expect from Atari. (Didn't those guys go out of business in the 80s? LOL?)

/K

Nope these are the guys that took and made there employees so mad that they left and started there own companies like coleco and such. This was because they would not give ANY credit to there developers and instead kept all the credit for the corporate name itself. They never recovered from that.. but hopefully they learned there lesson

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I'm having an absolute blast with the game thus far, and I totally agree with the before mentioned posts - only whiners frequent the forum.

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gripe gripe gripe gripe
eat eat eat eat
powder powder powder
die

inscribe lofty words on headstone

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Well, I'm generally happy with the game, overall. There's a few things that are blatantly missing or unfinished, and the game has an overall "Rushed out the door by Atari" feel to it that I've come to expect from Atari. (Didn't those guys go out of business in the 80s? LOL?)

But due to the general unhappiness of the population that you've mentioned, and is hard not to notice when you're playing the game, I tend to keep to myself, keep chat closed, try not to get caught up in the flames and sarcasm in the game while playing.

I guess I'm like a lot of other folks: Too busy trying to enjoy the game that's there instead of complain about the game that I think it should be.

I'm a lifer, though, so I probably have a zen attitude about it and what I hope Cryptic eventually does to make everything better.

Plus, I'm an older gamer, who has been there for quite a few MMO launches, and most of this is stuff I've already been battle hardened by. :cool:


/K

You sir, are an intelligent person. An example of the type of community Star Trek draws. I agree with you completely. A point that most fail to bring up is, if these complainers are so miserable playing the game, then why are they logged in?

My experience in life has taught me that there are those that are not happy unless they are complaining. Not everyone is upbeat and positive. They live for the rush of inciting unrest and dissention. For those that are bothered by the complainers, just /ignore the complainers and dont feed their need.

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Yep, I'm having too much fun actually playing the game than sitting here complaining about every little thing. Good job Cryptic! When can I buy a del taco shuttle pet? Money is on the table. Grab it! :D

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They're busy enjoying the game.

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I'm plenty happy with the game. :)

I also grew up when it was considered tacky to be rude to others and to treat folks as I would like to be treated. These days it seems to be a focus on "self-expression" and using insults as a substitute to real debate.

Haters are loud. They bring that to the forums and yell as loud as they can. They want attention and that is how they get it.

Happy and/or reasonable folks are playing and enjoying the game. They might post and point out a bug or list their concerns in an constructive manner. But they tend not to have the forum emotional meltdowns that make the STO community look so negative.

I'm a glass half full kinda guy. And I've played a ton of MMORPGs; I understand that they are flawed, buggy, and wonderful distractions.

When I am unhappy with a MMORPG, I simply go. No quit thread, no drama, no meltdown. I wish more players were willing to do the same.

Don't let the angry threads take away your enjoyment of the STO. :)

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I turned off the zone channel almost immediately, and I'm happily playing the game and hearing nothing negative.

When I come to these forums, it's usually to provide targeted feedback, describe a bug, or look for information.

I'm nt spending my time talking about how much I like this game, because frankly, I'm enjoying playing it.

That's where this happy person is. Hope that enlightens you. :)

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As other have said, busy playing the game :-)

I like zone chat for the most part but when it does go wrong I just turn to Fleet chat where there are some nice, sane helpful ppl. Get into a good fleet and talk to them most of the time; it will really help you enjoyment of the game.

Don't take the forums too seriously. If this game is like most other, 90% of the players won't read them and only 1% will be responsible for most of the posts. Take all the whining with a pinch of salt.

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I'd be alot happier if I wasn't at work and was home playing :D

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im happy and love this game. I made commander last night WOOT!

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Again a matter of opinion. As far as Flies love feces analogy is concerned there must be lot of stuff that we hate and you absolutely love. So i guess that makes you a fly on feces too. (of course in our opinion)

See what i did there? ;)

Flamed me and missed the point?

yes i c wut u did thar

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Hey our guild was full of positive tonight. We had our first Admiral ding after only 3 days, 8 hours, 15 minutes of play time and we all congratulated him. Before you ask.... No there is no end game content, just pvp he said.

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Then again the game might just simply be poor. Why is that never a possibility?

why are you here again?

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why are you here again?

To monitor the state of the game and wait for the price to drop. Why are you here?

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Flamed me and missed the point?

yes i c wut u did thar

Awww without a doubt either a troll o someone that what convince people with all force that his truth is the only real one and so we must dislike the game no matter what. Hey I slowly love these kind of people :p.

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Is it me?

Online, the chat channel is filled with "this is rubbish", "that doesn't work" "cryptic should....", "I can't believe that they...." Where are the happy people?

The happy people are too busy playing to bother with the complaining.

One thing I always try to remember - if folks are complaining that means they've got an investment in it (either emotional or financial - or both) and they care about it.

I also try to remember that some folks just like to whine too ;)

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I am very happy with the game.

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Happy people are all busy playing the game of course!

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I should add i am quite happy with the game :)
Sure it has bugs and i have lost mission rewards, there is a bug with random stats occuring with new crewmen if the error "inventory full" comes up and other things.
Even lost items i wont get back, but you know what, all of that means nothing as if i can enjoy a cup of coffee and strut about doing what i like, all of that is just minor things that will eventually be fixed.
And yes the mission reward bug with loosing items is suppose to be solved now.

So yes happy camper that rather then refuse to accept something i use the bug report button and move on as no point to cry over have been etc :)

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Happy people are all busy playing the game of course!

I agree.

And teamchatting, by the way, which is the only way to get any conversation forward.

There are a million players, but I dont think there are a thousand of people moaning, which is fery few people in a million.

You'd be surprised how many people closes the chat window when they play.

I love this game, BTW.

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Is it me?

Online, the chat channel is filled with "this is rubbish", "that doesn't work" "cryptic should....", "I can't believe that they....".

People also seem to enjoy flaming each other, helpful advice is often clogged up with sarcastic comments.

These forums seem the same too, take the thread "how not to waste skill points again ever" in the advice section. Some guy goes to the trouble to explain his views on how the BO points work in his experience. First two responses say "thanks". The others are either a) slating him for being WRONG! (how dare he) or slating STO for not doing it their way "why isn't there a 'kill every ship in the area' skill at level one, this game is rubbish".

MMORPG's are what you make of them. can't we all just be nice to each other and have a little patience with STO while it finds its feet? I know it costs money, but I don't know of a game worthy of the name that didn't have glitches and bugs when it first came out.....But one of the major factors for people playing an MMO is the community....

If you don't like the way it's done, why not do us a favour and vote with your feet instead of bringing the rest of us down about it all?

Or is it me? where are the happy people?

The simple fact is that the one who gripes, moans, complains and ridicules Cryptic the most is the one who gest listened to the most. Hammer the hell out of the forums and you WILL get your way ... unless you are over 50... then nobody gives a shxx

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Flamed me and missed the point?

yes i c wut u did thar

No i didn't flame you i just used your analogy to point out that different people like different things. You are not as clever as you think you are.

Maybe choose better analogy next time other than 'fly likes feces'?

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I'm still happy with STO.
I do think that they should rename the "General Gameplay" thread section to the "Naysayers on Gameplay" thread. I've never seen so many players gripe about the dumbest things before.

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The internet allows people to be anonymous, which brings out the worst in them as can be seen in the game chat on these forums which are mostly filled with nothing but anger. Most of the happy people are just quietly playing the game.

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I think every game, even well established ones, has more 'complainers' posting on forums (and global chat in game) than people who are enjoying it. This doesnt mean the game is bad. In fact, the majority of players never post on the forum and rarely, if ever, talk in global chat rooms.