Suggestion: C-Store Races

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Close Summary of Support as of page 10
Support: 74~
No Support: 2~
Against: 0~


I would like to make the suggestion that C-Store species purchased could be at some point in the future, have their parts added to the alien creator too. This would lead to many more customised looking races and exiting future C-store additions.

For example, by buying a race, such as the recently released Caitian, you would be able to go into alien creator, and find the parts that make up them available to use there too. The same with Ferengi and others.

This of course is by no means a priority request, but maybe, if there's support for it, something that wouldn't require much extra work, there is also the chances for this to lead to even more exciting C-Store ideas which I will outline below.

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The proposed changes could lead to more C-store packs such as Alien Creator Bonus Packs, which add even more custom alien pieces in the future, that might not necessarily belong to any specific race. Further improving the diversity of the player species. These packs, would be like mix-and match goody bags, with various body parts and accessories for the player's look.

Thank you for you're time, I'm sure Cryptic would like to hear peoples thoughts on the matter. So, discuss, and hopefully show your support for the idea.

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-I would also like to give a big thumbs up to Cryptic for such a good job on the Caitian species, a massive fan of them!

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-Do people think the current traits specific to a race, such as Pounce, and Feline Instinct (Caitian) should also be included, if possible of course, for use in the Alien Creator along with the above suggestions? -> As suggested by Matteo.
= People have also said they do not like the idea of this, however would like the idea of special traits available in the Alien Booster Packs.

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- A suggestion for solving compatibility issues between alien parts (Paraphrased):
the best cure for fitting issues is to allow
the new parts to be sized via X-axis and Y-axis separately (similar to tatoos)

ears can then be brought apart and together to make a nice fit
and adjusted up and down to get them in the right spot

- Some people are requesting the ability to name their creations so they have names other than "Alien". Even more so some way to save and recall these creations, maybe in a database of sorts ((EDITOR's Note: Maybe people would like the idea of a wiki database for custom aliens, giving them a name, and detailed background, along with a "How To" to create them?))

- A suggestion of Alien parts unlock-able through Accolades.
I think it might be a good idea for Cryptic to add some more parts for free; either just as part of the next season, or as earnable parts (ie like do 30 exploration missions, get some alien part).

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A majority if not all the first 3 pages have given their support to this idea of C-Store races being added into the alien-creator. This can be said true up to page 6 so far.

A similar amount of people approve of the idea of there being C-Store Alien Bits/Booster Packs. Even if the main idea is not implemented, the support so far shows that such an action for the Bits Pack, would be welcomed by some of the community at least, so far.

The current method of sharing Race designs through saved pictures, and then transfering pictures to other players, is not understood by all, perhaps a Database that could have aliens uploaded to (Kinda like the current Captain's Database) and then downloaded to the client to be added as another possible race, would be incredibly useful to many. As stated earlier, being able to name creations, and set which parts should be customisable by other players would also expand this.

It would also be prudent to call attention to the fact that as of posting, that both Caitian and Benzites are not available as Bridge officers yet.

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i would like this because i dont want to create and lvl up a new char just for having this new race...i want my alien character look like this,or single parts of it :D

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Yes, please! I have to say I was really rather disappointed when I first bought the Ferengi pack only to find that the additional parts did not make it into the Alien creator portion of the character creator.

It makes no sense that once you purchase the pack, you would have access to the species body parts for your alien characters.

Also... I really like the idea of 'parts packs' .. THAT could be really interesting.

Saith

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what's sad is with the exception of catians and all but the orion and klingons on the klingon side... the parts are already there for the most part =/

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I would also like to see this happen as my character is supposed to be a caitian hybrid (1/4 caitian) with the main missing elements being the correct ears and the lack of a tail.

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Good suggestion, and one I've heard before.

If enough community support for this gets drummed up, it's something that has a possibility of happening.

Though there might be some odd parts conflicts, so we would have to figure that out.


Cheers,

matt

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/support!!

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This idea has my support, too.

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I support this as well.

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/support!!

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im all for it too

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I'd like to add my support as well, it would really add more value into buying the extra races.

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<------ Support ! :)

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i was thinking the same thing in another thread. it would be nice if all of at least some of the parts got added so we can at least play around with our creations a little more

it does run the risk of looking stupid but you can make some silly looking aliens already and most people tend to make stuff that looks good if they are going to play that characters for hours on end.

caitians with ferengi ears, and klingon ridges :eek: but it would be nice to have the option

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I was just thinking this tonight, that since there aren't Catian BOs in the game (yet), I'd love to be able to make an alien BO that looks like one, heck some folks might buy Catians just to be able to add tails to aliens... and I LOVE the idea of the extra 'body parts' packs for more alien diversity... IDIC FTW! ;)

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I'm definitely signing this.

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/ signed

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ill sign if someone can then explaisn the traits to me, would specific traits then be available for general use?

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I would like both the physical appearance as well as species traits carried over to the alien creator. I would also like to name the species so that under species name it would show what i named the species instead of alien.

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I would definitely get more of the C-Store races if their parts would unlock into the tailor. And the body part packs sound like a pretty good idea as well. I give this my full support.

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/ signed and /bumped

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/Signed

I want to make a furry saurian borg hybrid.

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-Updated the first post with some very basic analysis of what's been posted so far.

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/support

I love this idea! I've been wanting to create my Klingon/Ferengi Warrior Merchant. Today is a good day to BUY!

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great idea, i would support this

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I generally avoid the alien creator, I would make an exception starting with this change: though I do not know this, but it might save the developers a lot of work, to only have to put in parts. I would use it more, but I would like to be able to name my creations, rather then just having it be Alien.

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all for it

oh btw,

the best cure for...shall we say, fitting issues is to allow
the new parts to be sized via X-axis and Y-axis separately (similar to tatoos)

ears can then be brought apart and together to make a nice fit
and adjusted up and down to get them in the right spot

peace

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Nothing to add except /signed.

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I generally avoid the alien creator, I would make an exception starting with this change: though I do not know this, but it might save the developers a lot of work, to only have to put in parts. I would use it more, but I would like to be able to name my creations, rather then just having it be Alien.

I agree, maybe we should start a thread in the general feedback about how we would like the character species to reflect what we named the species and not just say alien.

I also still would like elements of species that we have purchased to be availbel in the alien creator.

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I would like to make the suggestion that C-Store species purchased could be at some point in the future, have their parts added to the alien creator too. This would lead to many more customised looking races and exiting future C-store additions.

For example, by buying a race, such as the recently released Caitian, you would be able to go into alien creator, and find the parts that make up them available to use there too. The same with Ferengi and others.
I like the idea. I hadn't purchased any C-Store species and didn't realize this wasn't already the case. I'm guessing this proposal includes alien Bridge Officers and Captains?

The proposed changes could lead to more C-store packs such as Alien Creator Bonus Packs, which add even more custom alien pieces in the future, that might not necessarily belong to any specific race. Further improving the diversity of the player species. These packs, would be like mix-and match goody bags, with various body parts and accessories for the player's look.
Either way is cool. I'd be much more likely to buy an "Alien Pack" than a bunch of races. Customizing Bridge Officers has more appeal to me than rolling a bunch of Captains.

EDIT: I would also like to give a big thumbs up to Cryptic for such a good job on the Caitian species, a massive fan of them!

EDIT 2: Do people think the current traits specific to a race, such as Pounce, and Feline Instinct (Caitian) should also be included, if possible of course, for use in the Alien Creator along with the above suggestions? -> As suggested by Matteo.
I'm not fond of this part. I'd like to see the these species specific traits remain limited. Of course, traits available only to aliens would be cool!

And a big thumbs up to all the work done so far (and the updates in the works) on one of my favorite aliens!

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Thumbs up for this idea.

Also, I know this next idea will never be implemented but I think the C-Store should have an alien registration option to register the species you make. Why? For two main reasons: because it would be cool for the creator, and also if the creator wanted to call up another one of the species they made it is a lot easier than writing down and re-entering all the specifications by hand every time, especially if the species is super detailed. Plus, I've seen some really cool aliens that people have made out there that I'd like to add to my crew.

Anybody else think this would be cool?

P.S. Mugatos.

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Would love to see this as well. I would buy more races just to use the parts for one of my six admirals.

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The problem is fitting the odd part to the other odd part. Some things wont go well together. How to put Ferengi ears on a Caitian? I kind of shuddered just now at the thought. That said, putting an alien customization pack adding in the new races parts that can fit together in the C-Store would justify the costs of the art team's time to make it happen. In fact, my hope is the surge of income you get from Caitians and other C-store purchases will allow an expansion of the art team; after all the designers design, but the hardest work is making their designs look good. The art team is the most time intensive part of the work if I'm not mistaken.

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I support adding the bits of all custom species you buy into the Alien generator and I also support separate alien bits packs.

However, I also think we still need some more basic-game stuff on the Alien generator, especially the wider selection of horns seen on some NPCs and full parity between male and female alien options*.

While we're on the general topic of C-store species, I'd also like to see every factions' species available in the C-store to use in other factions. Defectors, adopted orphans, rebels, and the like are all interesting character possibilities.

*My personal peeve is the same one eventually addressed in CO - there are face tentacles for males but not females!

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I'd love to have the parts unlocked in the creator after I purchase them.

I'm not sure about the skills, but definitely the parts.

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Good suggestion, and one I've heard before.

If enough community support for this gets drummed up, it's something that has a possibility of happening.

Though there might be some odd parts conflicts, so we would have to figure that out.


Cheers,

matt

I for one support the idea of a "living" race database of elements for toon creation. Frankly speaking I assumed it was a given for the game.

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I for one support the idea of a "living" race database of elements for toon creation. Frankly speaking I assumed it was a given for the game.

same here. I just assumed that when you purchased a new race it's parts would get dumped in the alien creator.

Now that I'm more familiar with cryptic, I see that my assumptions were far off base. :p

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Good suggestion, and one I've heard before.

If enough community support for this gets drummed up, it's something that has a possibility of happening.

Though there might be some odd parts conflicts, so we would have to figure that out.


Cheers,

matt

Please make this happen too, if at all possible. Then we could REALLY make a wide variety of unique species. :)

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I'm a bit confused by the limited choices in the alien creator. Not to say that you can't make interesting aliens, but that it seems like some pieces have been purposely withheld. For instance, there are Hirogen pieces in the alien character creator, but not for every category, only some of them. And that's odd, because there are Hirogen NPCs in the game that appear to have all the Hirogen parts. Why?

And, yes, if you purchase a new species from the C-Store, its parts should be added to the pile in the alien creator. It's unpleasantly surprising when they're not.

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More parts is good, and an alien pack of some kind.

Do we have "backward" bending knees on any models yet? So the Caitians could look like ones from TAS?

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I like the idea. I hadn't purchased any C-Store species and didn't realize this wasn't already the case. I'm guessing this proposal includes alien Bridge Officers and Captains?

Well, it would be across the board, I'd imagine, unless there was a design issue with setting that up, if it's of the "Alien" class, then I can't see why it couldn't be modified to have these parts incorporated into the lists.

I have updated the main post with peoples comments and thoughts so far, also presented some people's disaproval of the idea of race specific traits.

In that regard, I would suggest that, if someone is making a completely custom feline-like species, with maybe Ferengi ears (Shock) or something crazy, feline traits would be welcome additions for them...

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I support pretty much everything in the original OP.

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/ signed in support of the OP

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More parts for Aliens? Sign me up! :)

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actually i wouldnt mind seeing different leg options for the alien creator. Its probably safe to say that not all species are going to have the exact same physiology. So, really the "backwards knee" option for the caitians that some are asking for is not much of a stretch, as far as being a general option.

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/support!

I want to mix and match parts to make some halfbreed characters.I especially like the idea of "alien parts" packs being added to the c-store.. all the new races seem to be going direct to the c-store, meaning there are more and more races you can't build/mod with the alien creator.

I'd definitely be willing to plunk down a few bucks now and then for more parts to play with.

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Giving the options to add even more parts to the alien creator can never be a bad thing. I'm throwing in my support as well.

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Yea i fully support this! I'm glad that this has been recongnised it would be nice to use the purchased items on the alien creator - i was quite surprised that this wasn't done already as you can make an "alien" klingon etc.

But yea would great could do with a tail on my alien :D

Also to quote Fatherfungus:

Some people are requesting the ability to name their creations so they have names other than "Alien". Even more so some way to save and recall these creations, maybe in a database of sorts ((EDITOR's Note: Maybe people would like the idea of a wiki database for custom aliens, giving them a name, and detailed background, along with a "How To" to create them?))

GREAT IDEA!!!!

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actually i wouldnt mind seeing different leg options for the alien creator. Its probably safe to say that not all species are going to have the exact same physiology. So, really the "backwards knee" option for the caitians that some are asking for is not much of a stretch, as far as being a general option.

Caitians do not have a backwards knee. That is their ankle. They are standing on their toes, the knee is located higher up. This is much like a common cat or dog.

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I'd like to see all the c-store parts added to the Alien creator. My Tac guy wants fur.

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Good suggestion, and one I've heard before.

If enough community support for this gets drummed up, it's something that has a possibility of happening.

Though there might be some odd parts conflicts, so we would have to figure that out.


Cheers,

matt

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so far 6 pages of support! Please link this fleet pages and friends to get more support, the overwhelming positive feedback so far can't be ignored by Cryptic.

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Well done momo on such a well thought out and presented argument. I love being able to create new races and fully support all of your suggestions. I really hope Crypic can follow this up for us!

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totaly agree momo... huge bump from me

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/bump & sign again. ;)

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I am yet to even buy a species pack and am not sure, if you buy a pack can you get that species as bridge officers? If not then I'd suggest adding such an ability to the request, if so then ignore this :)

If this happens then I will definitely be buying at least some of the species packs.
...Signed...

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I am yet to even buy a species pack and am not sure, if you buy a pack can you get that species as bridge officers? If not then I'd suggest adding such an ability to the request, if so then ignore this :)

If this happens then I will definitely be buying at least some of the species packs.
...Signed...

You can get C-Store races as bridge officers without purchasing the C-Store race.

However, there are no Caitian or Benzite BOs at all.

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Good suggestion, and one I've heard before.

If enough community support for this gets drummed up, it's something that has a possibility of happening.

Though there might be some odd parts conflicts, so we would have to figure that out.


Cheers,

matt

There already is "odd parts conflicts" I made an alien with large eyes and lowered brows, weird eye disk things protrude from the top of his brows if you look closely.

Why an eyeshield needs to be that big I don't know?

So no problem with parts not fitting good as long as they are there.

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GREAT IDEA! You have my support!

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/support More parts Cryptic!

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Good suggestion, and one I've heard before.

If enough community support for this gets drummed up, it's something that has a possibility of happening.

Though there might be some odd parts conflicts, so we would have to figure that out.


Cheers,

matt

I support anything in the C-Store to be added to the game for free. :cool:

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Yes please

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I think it might be a good idea for Cryptic to add some more parts for free; either just as part of the next season, or as earnable parts (ie like do 30 exploration missions, get some alien part)

I have nothing against the c-store, but many people are getting the impression that Cryptic is just trying to milk this game.

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I think it might be a good idea for Cryptic to add some more parts for free; either just as part of the next season, or as earnable parts (ie like do 30 exploration missions, get some alien part)

I have nothing against the c-store, but many people are getting the impression that Cryptic is just trying to milk this game.
Great idea, added this suggestion to the OP too.

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Support. Now about my Caitian BOs... :)

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I think its a good idea!

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/signed

In fact...

/verysigned

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I am for this as well.

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Any update on this, I really expected this myself, and I must say I was very disappointed when I bought the Catian race, and couldn't add a tail to my aliens. For that matter I was equally disappointed with the tail clipping through things when your chara is set to use the Thoughtful pose, and found out no amount of Arm lengthening, or action of any kind could avoid the clipping issues.

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I'd like to see this as well. It would be nice to make my own liberated borg that isn't a human. Liberated Saurian, Liberated Bolian, Liberated Caitian............the possibilites. If we could then name our Alien creations that would be even better.

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This is definatly a good idea. I decided to play a Cardassian and made her up through the alien race creator. My fear is that when Federation Cardassians show up (and I know they will) that they will have improved neck textures and possibly more hiarstyles that have a high forehead. It would not be worth it for me to reroll my character that I have been working on just so she can look more Cardassian, so either a way to "respec" her as cardassian or just add the parts at the Tailor would be great.

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I totally support this - we should have more choice in character creation by being able to use different parts from different species!

/signed!!

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I'd like to see this as well. It would be nice to make my own liberated borg that isn't a human. Liberated Saurian, Liberated Bolian, Liberated Caitian............the possibilites. If we could then name our Alien creations that would be even better.

I had that very same thought at release and fully expected it already in the store to be frank but sadly Cryptic decided to make many marketing miscalculation. I figured it would be simple. Charge a specific amount of merits in game say maybe 100 for a race or buy it for say 200 points from the store and everyone would likely be happy but no......

Sad Cryptic - very sad......

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So Cryptic! Whilst not a huge thread, we've had 99.9% positive feedback on the ideas suggested in OP. Any chance we might see something enacted in the future in relation to the OP?

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Good suggestion, and one I've heard before.

If enough community support for this gets drummed up, it's something that has a possibility of happening.

Though there might be some odd parts conflicts, so we would have to figure that out.


Cheers,

matt

Is 8 pages support enough matt? :D

/signed. While inter-species mating may have genetics stacked against them that isn't to say it is impossible. The potential to blend different races into hybrids was a major selling point of the character creator.

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Is 8 pages support enough matt? :D

/signed. While inter-species mating may have genetics stacked against them that isn't to say it is impossible. The potential to blend different races into hybrids was a major selling point of the character creator.

Well, it's canonical. Even handwaved with the whole genetic seeding thing. ;)

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I fully endorse this.

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Ummm.... Any update from the devs on this issue? :confused:

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Devs? n.n
Maybe they are checking to see if they can follow through first before replying. *crosses fingers*

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/signed

Ricardo Rojo

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So thats pretty much entirely a thread of support! All the posts in this thread are either supporting or discussing the support for these changes. With nobody disagreeing, perhaps we could hear some feedback from Devs about the possibility of this becoming a reality?

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Support - with minor note:
If a C-Store purchase is to be unlocked (to a player who purchased it) under Alien tailoring, preferably all variables should be unlocked, not a neutered subset. Price may have to be adjusted upward as a result.
'Trait set' items on C-Store risk the same acidic reception as emotion packs and per-character only items, especially if said trait set is to be neutered to be only available per-character.
Less important the 'Alien' racial designation, as the definition of 'alien' is in the eyes of the beholder.

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Count me and My Thread (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=181175) on board for this. I preferred to post my thread as a separate one so my reasoning had less chance of being missed by the Devs.

As for the other options:

/Support CStore Alien Creator Booster Packs, as long as the price is reasonable.

/Support naming Alien races, but that would require reworking the Alien Creator so that when loading a created race onto an Alien character (What it looked like before the saved race was loaded) with some customisations already that loading the race only modifies options that are have not been changed from the default Alien look. Basically it should give the choice to not change options that the player has already customized before the load.
Ex: If I changed hair to None and the Alien race template I'm loading has hair, after the load the head should remain bald. Like locking some options to remain unchanged after loading. This Lock option should not just apply to Aliens, really, but be universal. If I want to use a costume somebody else made and the body proportions are not the same, making the body proportions match my character takes a lot of time. CO has this on costumes, but I've never noticed it working and STO doesn't seem to have it at all.

/Against unlocking race-exclusive traits (Like Leadership, etc.) for use with Aliens, or unlocking race-specific (Like the Accuracy boosting space trait not available to Aliens). If every Alien could choose 1 (Or 1 or more?) canon race-exclusive traits, then there's no incentive to play anything but Aliens. The biggest plus to base and unlockable races is exclusive traits, and Aliens not having access to every trait. If Aliens could choose exclusive race traits or traits specific to a race, there's no advantage to being an non-Alien race anymore. The point of all unlocked race costume options being unlocked for Aliens but keeping the traits as is now is so that Aliens have no gameplay advantages over canon races and remain almost purely aesthetic. Although there is a degree of possible "min/max" trait options for choosing an Alien over a canon race, there being optional exclusive traits being and 1 exclusive required trait per canon race that isn't available to Aliens prevent Aliens having a clear gameplay advantage. If race-exclusive or race-specific traits are allowed to Aliens, Aliens cease being a mostly cosmetic option.

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Thanks, be sure to link in your thread to this one, hopefully the Devs will check back with this thread and see how much support it has.

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Add Nord Rabbits too! :D

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Signed and join in request with my small thread:

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=169138&highlight=new+race+customization

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Suport x100000000

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/ My support......signed

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I hope they are reading this as I have seen alot of support for this idea.

Does anyone have a clue about the difficulty of this request to do? I wouldn't think it would be but I don't know how the actual system works. Any ideas?

Paul

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Hello everyone, I would like to propose two new races.
- An ANDROID (http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Soong-type_android) race of the Federation based on the same technology as that of DATA

- A race of beings "AUGMENTS (http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_Augments_(episode))" for the Klingon Empire based on the same technology as that of ARIK SOONG

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Put my vote in too!

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I would love for this to be made possible, it makes PERFECT sense that if the parts are already unlocked because you have the species that you be able to use them on the alien creator. Maybe then I could use some of my Borg implants and create my very own liberated Borg from a completely unique species. Or create a brand new alien w/ a tail.

I would also hope that the gender restrictions be removed from the parts. There are things like horns and facial appendages that are restricted to male or female only and there are hand options that can't be equipped by females.

I'm also in FULL support of making the traits available in the alien creator. Again, if you have already unlocked the trait by obtaining the species I don't see why we shouldn't be able to use them on the alien creator.

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i would also like to see Androids, cardassians, breen and remans as c-store races (even better as free, but thats unlikely). i would also like to see a way to share user made aliens and a race change option so if you have a vice admeral but want a new race you don't have to build up all the way to vice admeral again (but still could if you wanted to of course, i acctualy like the start content for feds, kinigons is a bit teedious) and anything that makes the c-store more worth it is a good thing.

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i would also like to see Androids, cardassians, breen and remans as c-store races (even better as free, but thats unlikely). i would also like to see a way to share user made aliens and a race change option so if you have a vice admeral but want a new race you don't have to build up all the way to vice admeral again (but still could if you wanted to of course, i acctualy like the start content for feds, kinigons is a bit teedious) and anything that makes the c-store more worth it is a good thing.

Sharing a species you have made is easy. Here (http://s733.photobucket.com/albums/ww336/Wilv79/STO/) are some of my own.

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i ment as a fast way 2 get a kl looking charicter, not just 2 look at

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i ment as a fast way 2 get a kl looking charicter, not just 2 look at

The image files generated are costume saves.

Though a Cryptic-hosted service tied into the game would make the process easier for painfully novice users. It's also slightly counterintuitive that costume saves go in the 'screenshots' folder.

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i ment as a fast way 2 get a kl looking charicter, not just 2 look at

You CAN use those aliens I sahred. All you need to do is pick the ones you like and save them to C:\Users\Public\Games\Cryptic Studios\Star Trek Online\Live\screenshots or where ever it is that your screenshots folder is, then load it up on the tailor. It's that easy.

Here's another site where you can upload and DL some more.

http://stofan.comxa.com/addRace.php

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/support!

This is an AWESOME idea that needs to implemented NOW ><

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/support!!

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Ill throw in my support as well! and maybe other things like dragon wings or some such fantasy ideas? after all i want my made up alien to truly look alien?

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I definitely support this thread, although I doubt the bits I want for a species I'm designing will ever make it into the game.

I'm not sure if anyone else thought of this, but wouldn't adding c-store species to the available BOFFs just require adding in a string of code that unlocks them to appear randomly or in the BOFF store once the species itself is bought? Then again, this may or may not take a lot depending on how things are already coded.

Also, anyone know if there's been word yet on Caitians ever getting the ability to have hair on their heads? I doubt it, but I'm hoping they might eventually do it. >_>

There's also something I like the idea of that someone almost started on the CO forums. Player-submitted models. This'll probably get shot down, but what if players could make models for say... species, and then submit them to Cryptic for use in the game? Obviously if someone does something against the rules; for example making something look obscene, but it'd save them a lot of development time on adding new species or alien parts to the game if they had pre-made models handed in, right?

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I'm still waiting on any kind of word about when the Caitians will get digitigrade legs as they should have.
But I too want to know about the Caitian hair.

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I'm still waiting on any kind of word about when the Caitians will get digitigrade legs as they should have.
But I too want to know about the Caitian hair.

Yes, I'd like to know that too very much so. I believe they also had eyebrows.
I'm hoping it's not a matter of them being incapable of doing it. I mean if I really had to, I'd draw them some references, geez. :|

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Caitian hair is schedueled for release with the new updated hair, whenever that sees the light of day.

As for digitigrade legs, I don't remember even seeing their legs in the movies =(

But let's stay on track guys, we need to keep the thread as concentrated as possible on the subject matter in the hope that Devs take note of it.

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I Support this

So far I've bought:
Klingon Fed
Ferengi
Caitian.

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Good suggestion, and one I've heard before.

If enough community support for this gets drummed up, it's something that has a possibility of happening.

Though there might be some odd parts conflicts, so we would have to figure that out.


Cheers,

matt

That was the reason i stopped buying races in the c-store......

/signed

we want this ability - make it happen

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I too would like to see the alien creator updated to allow people that have purchased the species from the c-store have those parts unlocked to use.

Maybe whilst they're at it, they can allow us to give our creation a species name?

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I think that it would be a splendid idea if species parts and traits became available on our Alien Character Creator list of available options once we had purchased a certain species from the C-Store.

I would also love to see a Captain trait respec so that we could apply the new traits.

I would very much like to totally respec my Level 45 Captain and give her both the appearance and species traits of a Caitian, as I would prefer not to grind through those levels again.

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Good suggestion, and one I've heard before.

If enough community support for this gets drummed up, it's something that has a possibility of happening.

Though there might be some odd parts conflicts, so we would have to figure that out.


Cheers,

matt

/sign

I think that this would be great! Now for the abilities, just make them "less effective" than their original versions. A simple fix, but you will still need some balancing for it.

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I think that this would be great! Now for the abilities, just make them "less effective" than their original versions. A simple fix, but you will still need some balancing for it.
Why would you advocate making the abilities less efficient?

If we pay for the C-Store species and that species' parts and abilities become available in our Alien Character Creator, then everything should be in full force.

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/Against unlocking race-exclusive traits (Like Leadership, etc.) for use with Aliens, or unlocking race-specific (Like the Accuracy boosting space trait not available to Aliens). If every Alien could choose 1 (Or 1 or more?) canon race-exclusive traits, then there's no incentive to play anything but Aliens. The biggest plus to base and unlockable races is exclusive traits, and Aliens not having access to every trait. If Aliens could choose exclusive race traits or traits specific to a race, there's no advantage to being an non-Alien race anymore. The point of all unlocked race costume options being unlocked for Aliens but keeping the traits as is now is so that Aliens have no gameplay advantages over canon races and remain almost purely aesthetic. Although there is a degree of possible "min/max" trait options for choosing an Alien over a canon race, there being optional exclusive traits being and 1 exclusive required trait per canon race that isn't available to Aliens prevent Aliens having a clear gameplay advantage. If race-exclusive or race-specific traits are allowed to Aliens, Aliens cease being a mostly cosmetic option.
I disagree with you. The Star Trek Universe and its parallel dimensions are vast places, and there are going to be abilities which are shared across the vast breadth of extant species. Therefore, *all* species traits should be available once that species is unlocked via that species being purchased in the C-Store or a Booster Pack code being input on our Account page.

As for your argument that people will no longer want to play the 'real' species when they can have a facsimile, I would point out that there are *many* diehard fans of specific species who will continue to play their favorite(s).

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I support this as well.

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supported wholeheartedly.

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I'd support this.

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I would like to see this done.

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I'm totally in favor of this idea. I would buy alien races only to use their parts.

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signed. I want a tail and cat ears on my alien :P. without being a Catian

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If enough community support for this gets drummed up, it's something that has a possibility of happening.
I'll sign that!

As much as I will abhor seeing blue furry Avatar-style aliens, I will be happy to have a wider range of customization.

Further, can we have the option to name our races so that It wont list us as "Alien" (a bit racist) and instead will list us as whatever name we give our character's race?

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I'll sign that!

Further, can we have the option to name our races so that It wont list us as "Alien" (a bit racist) and instead will list us as whatever name we give our character's race?

You do know this is fiction. How can this be racist it is a game. What social implications and negative attacks are they receiving for being an "Alien" in this game?

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I support this!

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I support the gist of this, but the whole notion of purchasing racial trait packs is iffy at best. The reason being that not all traits are created equal. Particularly race specific traits tend to be a step up from regular ones. To move toward a situation where against payment you are enabling players to create characters with four such traits goes against what we've been promised about the C-store. That being there are no ingame advantages to be sold in it. And where some might argue that ship has sailed, I'd counter that's no excuse to abandon trying.

And I'd hate to see Star Trek's canon races abandoned for seven foot tall superpowered asian catgirls.

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It might work if the race-exclusive traits are in a separate category so that no custom alien could take more than one of the 'special' traits for any one character.

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I support the gist of this, but the whole notion of purchasing racial trait packs is iffy at best.

The traits should be basic game options, definitely.

It might work if the race-exclusive traits are in a separate category so that no custom alien could take more than one of the 'special' traits for any one character.

And this is how to keep custom species from being a collection of 4 crazy powers.

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I dissaprove anything extra that impacts game mechanics on the C Store. I think the traits (and parts for BOs) need to be made available like before. For Captains choices they need to keep and charge for the cosmetics if they wish although I still feel like that is pushing it when we still pay a sub.

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I support this. :)

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im all for it.

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*nonchalantly strolls in whistling* Drink to the day of the racial blender! :)

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Late to the thread - but I support this! :D

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Braaaaaiiiiiiins.... braaaaaiiiins!

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Glad people are still supporting the idea, keep going! The guys have said they'd take it into account if it gets enough support :3

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I support this as well.

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freat idea

i support it too

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I'm all for an alien parts pack! Must have. Likewise it would be nice if it was also accessible in the foundry.

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Just fyi, they plan on removing most Races from the C-Store and making them standard Free to Use.

06-17-2010, 07:03 AM ~OP Date

08-22-2011, 03:41 PM ~Last Post date before Thread went Inactive

10-18-2011, 12:26 PM ~Day of this Thread Zombification

BRAINS..... BRAINS......

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Just fyi, they plan on removing most Races from the C-Store and making them standard Free to Use.

That's what they said, but not what Tribble shows.
As usual.

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It wouldn't be Halloween without a few zombie threads would it?

Thread closed.