DEV's I have a strange request.

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Can We get a picture posted of the Tribble server and the Holodeck server?

I'm really curious what the machines look like that this MMO runs on.

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I did some digging but here's the best image I could find:
Server farm @ Cryptic (http://lifeboat.com/images/vger.jpg)

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I did some digging but here's the best image I could find:
Server farm @ Cryptic (http://lifeboat.com/images/vger.jpg)

FTW!

must..... merge.... with the...... creator....

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I did some digging but here's the best image I could find:
Server farm @ Cryptic (http://lifeboat.com/images/vger.jpg)

Yeah, i have a feeling they will pull my leg and post this:
http://www.1000bit.it/lista/t/TANDY/m1/trs80_ad3.jpg

and this is their storage area:
http://selectroclash.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/the_first_harddisk.jpg

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Yeah, i have a feeling they will pull my leg and post this:
http://www.1000bit.it/lista/t/TANDY/m1/trs80_ad3.jpg

and this is their storage area:
http://selectroclash.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/the_first_harddisk.jpg

This is a picture of the dev team with the servers last weekend
(http://5minuteswithmolly.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/office-space-printer.jpg)

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Server maintenance http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/nerd_computer_repair.jpg

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Server maintenance http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/nerd_computer_repair.jpg

MY EYES!!!!

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Dev's preparing to launch Season 2 on Tribble (http://www.divbyzero.com/eclipse/contests/2/tron_user.jpg)

Perhaps a metaphor for how Season 2 going live will change the order of things in the MMO world? (http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt24/Nyota20/irony.jpg)

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Personally I thought they were this:

Cryptic's Computer Power - Hey least it is a green machine! (http://rlv.zcache.com/green_computer_power_mousepad-p144565762658657332trak_400.jpg)

Blakinik

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Most of the servers are pretty generic looking 1U rackmounts, nothing all that interesting :-P

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Most of the servers are pretty generic looking 1U rackmounts, nothing all that interesting :-P

Hamster powered?

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Most of the servers are pretty generic looking 1U rackmounts, nothing all that interesting :-P

Yeah, but Pretty Please get a snapshot for me?

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Hamster powered?

Not unless you can find very small hamsters. I believe the 1U units are powered by Industrious Ants™ and they're quite efficient.

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http://www.startrekonline.com/dyncontent/startrek/uploads/sto_server_070210_01.jpg (http://socalfreenet.org/files/images//15-384_0.jpg)

tbh

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http://www.startrekonline.com/dyncontent/startrek/uploads/sto_server_070210_01.jpg (http://socalfreenet.org/files/images//15-384_0.jpg)

tbh

Oi! Thats 2u

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Oi! Thats 2u

shows how much they know about hardware! :D

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We used these 1U rackmounts while I was in the service:
http://www.itechnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Asus-RS300-E6-Series-1U-Rackmount-Servers.jpg

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shows how much they know about hardware! :D

I'm actually a network Technician. I see server rooms all the time.

I just Like to see different ones. They make me smile.

I know, its a strange addiction, but I REALLY LIKE COMPUTERS.

lol

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The reason i like to see them is for the laughs.

I usually see stuff like this:
http://www.ixibo.com/2008/09/this-is-how-your-server-room-should-be/

But occasionally i see a winner like this:
http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/server-room-with-salt.jpg

I believe You can tell alot about a company from the way their server room looks.

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those are some sweet sweet looking servers there i must say.. though i must be honest.. if i made one i belive it would look like your winner there LMAO.

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Most of the servers are pretty generic looking 1U rackmounts, nothing all that interesting :-P

Pics or it didn't happen.

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But occasionally i see a winner like this:
http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/server-room-with-salt.jpg
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Hey why did you post a picture of my office?

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Most of the servers are pretty generic looking 1U rackmounts, nothing all that interesting :-P

yeah, but they VERY numerous. Right?



Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight????

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Server maintenance http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/nerd_computer_repair.jpg

That guy is the spitting image of fan boy.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2006/07/fanboy.jpg

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yeah, but they VERY numerous. Right?



Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight????
Not as many as you might think. One of the major benefits of our server tech is that we can run a large number of game server processes on a single machine. We actually have some interesting outgrowths of that tech that hopefully you guys will see in a year or so :-) </tease>

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Most of the servers are pretty generic looking 1U rackmounts, nothing all that interesting :-P

Wait.... "Most of the servers"...?

What about the rest?

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Not as many as you might think. One of the major benefits of our server tech is that we can run a large number of game server processes on a single machine. We actually have some interesting outgrowths of that tech that hopefully you guys will see in a year or so :-) </tease>

Hmm, then give us a pic of the resource window :)

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Not as many as you might think. One of the major benefits of our server tech is that we can run a large number of game server processes on a single machine. We actually have some interesting outgrowths of that tech that hopefully you guys will see in a year or so :-) </tease>
???????? :eek:

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But occasionally i see a winner like this:
http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/server-room-with-salt.jpg
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That's a Star wars galaxies server i bet!

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Wait.... "Most of the servers"...?

What about the rest?

The disk carriers will be 3U or 4U units. 1U is a CPU carrier form factor. This is a CPU-heavy, disk-light environment, so that's what they'll have most of.

It's mostly just about what will fit in a box.

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i managed to find this layout of their server room (http://ussandronicus.com/img/departments/engineering/main-engineering.jpg)

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Wait.... "Most of the servers"...?

What about the rest?

The rest of the servers are captured transformers; their brains are being used to run the game. :eek:

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That's a Star wars galaxies server i bet!

That's far too organized and well-designed to have been put together by SWG's dev team.

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Not as many as you might think. One of the major benefits of our server tech is that we can run a large number of game server processes on a single machine. We actually have some interesting outgrowths of that tech that hopefully you guys will see in a year or so :-) </tease>
Ooh nice!

I hope because of your heavy instancing tech you guys will introduce different versions of current "maps".
So based on your characters storyline advancement you enter the Sol system map pre or post Klingon invasion. :D
Which should look VERY different once the Klings have paid a visit to the Sol system. :cool:

Please tell us that´s possible!

Oh, BTW. Please don´t blow up Vulcan! :)

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I'm sure this is what it'll be come Season 2 release?
http://i48.tinypic.com/9jhmhu.jpg

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Dev's preparing to launch Season 2 on Tribble (http://www.divbyzero.com/eclipse/contests/2/tron_user.jpg)


I don't remember Jeff Bridges in Star Trek.

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I don't remember Jeff Bridges in Star Trek.

Yeah, he was that guy that said Riker "Treats objects like women, man"

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The reason i like to see them is for the laughs.

I usually see stuff like this:
http://www.ixibo.com/2008/09/this-is-how-your-server-room-should-be/

But occasionally i see a winner like this:
http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/server-room-with-salt.jpg

I believe You can tell alot about a company from the way their server room looks.

so that's how they get a salt hash on a file.:D

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Yeah, i have a feeling they will pull my leg and post this:
http://www.1000bit.it/lista/t/TANDY/m1/trs80_ad3.jpg

and this is their storage area:
http://selectroclash.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/the_first_harddisk.jpg

Nah... if I was going to pull your leg I would post this pic of our server room (http://www.atarimania.com/videos/commercial_atari_xe_st_power_without_the_price.jpg ). I would also inform you we're using these as our servers (http://www.atarimagazines.com/v3n2/explor1.JPG), and these (http://www.atari-shop.nl/XLhardware/1050kompleet.jpg) for storage. :p

I don't actually have a picture handy of the server room though. :D

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Nah... if I was going to pull your leg I would post this pic of our server room (http://www.atarimania.com/videos/commercial_atari_xe_st_power_without_the_price.jpg ). I would also inform you we're using these as our servers (http://www.atarimagazines.com/v3n2/explor1.JPG), and these (http://www.atari-shop.nl/XLhardware/1050kompleet.jpg) for storage. :p

I don't actually have a picture handy of the server room though. :D

I know you guys are in league with Atari, but that's ridiculous.. :P

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Here's Cryptic's Q/A department over the weekend. (http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/070201/apple_l.jpg)

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Nah... if I was going to pull your leg I would post this pic of our server room (http://www.atarimania.com/videos/commercial_atari_xe_st_power_without_the_price.jpg ). I would also inform you we're using these as our servers (http://www.atarimagazines.com/v3n2/explor1.JPG), and these (http://www.atari-shop.nl/XLhardware/1050kompleet.jpg) for storage. :p

I don't actually have a picture handy of the server room though. :D

What? I thought you were using THIS as the Holodeck Server (http://members.verizon.net/mlaferriere/images/trs80iiib.jpg). You guys really HAVE updated your server hardware. ;)

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Debugging the new build shouldn't be that hard. I mean, they use these for crying out loud (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/EnigmaMachineLabeled.jpg).

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Most of the servers are pretty generic looking 1U rackmounts, nothing all that interesting :-P

I found it! Los Gatos is a happening place. :)

Tribble: http://rack.modzone.dk/1u-dvdr/1uburner.jpg

Holodeck (after head-start crashes): http://www.emptyhouse.net/uploadedimages/xserve-fire2.jpg

just kidding, lol

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and these (http://www.atari-shop.nl/XLhardware/1050kompleet.jpg) for storage. :p

Aw, your storage solution is much more sophisticated than that (http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/JK3506-001.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=2AC75F6FAA20674C552746C26557F99CC377D4DDDA87558A 49207362A3F24453)! ;)

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I found it! Los Gatos is a happening place. :)

Tribble: http://rack.modzone.dk/1u-dvdr/1uburner.jpg

Holodeck (after head-start crashes): http://www.emptyhouse.net/uploadedimages/xserve-fire2.jpg

just kidding, lol

That top one looks like a sanaio board like the ones i've used in the past for setting up wireless mesh networks.

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That top one looks like a sanaio board like the ones i've used in the past for setting up wireless mesh networks.

Yeah, it's a Mini-ITX board (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini-ITX) from the looks of it.

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Yeah, it's a Mini-ITX board (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini-ITX) from the looks of it.
Nah, that looked like an AT power connector so it would be older than the *-ITX standards probably.

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Nah, that looked like an AT power connector so it would be older than the *-ITX standards probably.

Nope, it's definitely a Mini ITX board of VIA's EPIA SP-series (http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/embedded/ProductDetail.jsp?id=261) variety. Took some research, but I found it. ;)

It looks like the VIA EPIA SP 8000E LVDS (http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=61) to be exact with the optional CF and PCMCIA card daughter board attached as shown in this VoomPC example (http://www.mobilemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/image_46759_superimage.jpg).

Quite old, though, with a 32MB CF stuck into it. I have an old retro-PC running DOS with a 2GB CF (http://2geek.org/pt/blog/default.aspx?id=151&quick=retroxps) that's bigger. :D

But the Pico ITX (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pico-ITX) is what's hot now, at least without diving into the mobile market (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile-ITX).

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I too have a strange request.

But it might be inappropriate for these forums.

Private message me instead. You must have whip cream, handcuffs, a critically endangered species and a camera.

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I'm actually a network Technician. I see server rooms all the time.

I just Like to see different ones. They make me smile.

I know, its a strange addiction, but I REALLY LIKE COMPUTERS.

lol

Explains your Borg Avatar :P

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I found a picture of Coderanger! (http://i.newsarama.com/images/090521-wild-trek-02.jpg) :P

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Remember that problem with the lack of content? cryptic's Top people are on it! (http://keripiktempe.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/funny-pictures-cat-fixes-your-computer.jpg)

I joke cryptic Dev's, we <3 You.

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I found a picture of Coderanger! (http://i.newsarama.com/images/090521-wild-trek-02.jpg) :P

Awww, I had a REALLY good picture of Coderanger from a while back, but the alpha Archive boards for Champions appear to be gone. I'll have to scrounge around and see if I can find it when I'm on my main PC at home.

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Remember that problem with the lack of content? cryptic's Top people are on it! (http://keripiktempe.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/funny-pictures-cat-fixes-your-computer.jpg)

hehehehe :)

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Nope, it's definitely a Mini ITX board of VIA's EPIA SP-series (http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/embedded/ProductDetail.jsp?id=261) variety. Took some research, but I found it. ;)

It looks like the VIA EPIA SP 8000E LVDS (http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=61) to be exact with the optional CF and PCMCIA card daughter board attached as shown in this VoomPC example (http://www.mobilemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/image_46759_superimage.jpg).

Quite old, though, with a 32MB CF stuck into it. I have an old retro-PC running DOS with a 2GB CF (http://2geek.org/pt/blog/default.aspx?id=151&quick=retroxps) that's bigger. :D

But the Pico ITX (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pico-ITX) is what's hot now, at least without diving into the mobile market (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile-ITX).

Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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Hey, folks...

Cryptics top-of-the-line server! (http://sosu.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/old-computer-image.jpg)

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You say is nothing intrasting. really?
Ok, one black computer server case is not very intrasting.

But I have 3 very intrasting question.
How Mandy ServerMachines are in this Cluster?
What for Systemspezifications will this ClusterNotes have?
What for a Basic Operating System run on this Notes?

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Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

What can I say? I love hardware. I research, I build, I mod, and I tweak. :D

How Mandy ServerMachines are in this Cluster?

Believe it or not, they're most likely running one powerful Database server with 100GB+ of RAM for each logical server (ie: Holodeck, Tribble). Though Tribble might be much less in the spec department since it's just a test server. Unless Cryptic has changed recently (I doubt it), they're using an Object Oriented database which doesn't "cluster" well into multiple servers. Keep in mind this is the database server, which is most likely separate from the game server(s) themselves.

Presentation done by Cryptic employee about OOD:
http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Dan/Shannon-Posniewski-SQL-Considered-Harmful-for-MMOs/

February 2010 thread about it:
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=117912

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What for a Basic Operating System run on this Notes?

Considering the fact that they use a hogg/pigg compression system, let alone regular C (not C++) for the client, I'd take a guess that they're running some form of UNIX for the servers, from BSD to Linux.

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You mean they don't have talking computers with isolinear circuitry (http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Isolinear) and bio-neural gel packs (http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Bio-neural_gel_pack)?! :O

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You mean they don't have talking computers with isolinear circuitry (http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Isolinear) and bio-neural gel packs (http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Bio-neural_gel_pack)?! :O

Which of course means they will be completely impervious to any cheese "infections". ;)

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Believe it or not, they're most likely running one powerful Database server with 100GB+ of RAM for each logical server (ie: Holodeck, Tribble). Though Tribble might be much less in the spec department since it's just a test server. Unless Cryptic has changed recently (I doubt it), they're using an Object Oriented database which doesn't "cluster" well into multiple servers. Keep in mind this is the database server, which is most likely separate from the game server(s) themselves.

Presentation done by Cryptic employee about OOD:
http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Dan/Shannon-Posniewski-SQL-Considered-Harmful-for-MMOs/

February 2010 thread about it:
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=117912
Funnily enough - with the accolades and stat tracking going on for each player, we now know why objected oriented is the direction they took.

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Funnily enough - with the accolades and stat tracking going on for each player, we now know why objected oriented is the direction they took.

Plenty of other developers still use relational databases for their MMOs. They are always going to be benefits and drawbacks to each. And those using relational databases also have accomplishment systems like STO's accolades. For example, Turbine calls it "deeds".

There's really nothing wrong with either design for most MMO functionality provided they're implemented correctly to lighten the performance hit of their unique limitations. I'm sure Cryptic spent a great deal of effort in making their OOD perform well for STO.

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You mean they don't have talking computers with isolinear circuitry (http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Isolinear) and bio-neural gel packs (http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Bio-neural_gel_pack)?! :O

We already have that technology, though it's called "holographic storage" or "3D storage". A company attempting this went out of business this year (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/holographic-storage-bites-the-dust/799) trying to turn the technology into products. But the technology is real with medium as insanely difficult to develop such as crystals to the more feasible medium of thicker optical discs.

And we already have organic LED (OLED) displays, so we are incorporating material in technology that is synonymous with living tissue, whether it be plant or animal. Though the technical aspects of OLED film is less impressive than the term "organic". :)

We're living in a Star Trek world in this day and area minus the Federation and space travel. And I honestly think forming a "Federation" even among our own planet's nations is more of a challenge than developing the technology to get us into Trek's sci-fi. ;)