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08-21-2010, 10:20 AM
just wanting to know... look below...

http://startrekonline.com/calendar

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08-21-2010, 10:23 AM
there is a thread already open a few posts down

at the moment cold call is down for next Saturday and i dont know the excelsior but it could be any time this week

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08-21-2010, 10:35 AM
per the calendar... it says today!

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08-21-2010, 10:38 AM
there is a thread already open a few posts down

at the moment cold call is down for next Saturday and i dont know the excelsior but it could be any time this week

Cold Call is down for release today as well as the Excelsior.

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08-21-2010, 10:39 AM
no it shows you a launch window that stretches all week.

look at the week below today and it still says cold call stretching all the way to next saturday

also the calendar is meant as a rough guide only. it is near impossible to plan to release something for certain day so they give them self a window for each item, but if there is a bug or problem then it could be pushed back even further

at the moment the plan is next saturday is nothing goes wrong for the episode

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08-21-2010, 10:41 AM
per the calendar... it says today!

The release window starts today and runs through the 28th. Is there confusion over what a release window indicates?

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08-21-2010, 10:43 AM
someone said episodes are only for those weeks only... don't believe it. since cryptic put it up on their official calendar... then its today! I love Official!!!! Cryptic is soo on top of it lately! Can't wait to play these amazing episodes today! Woot! Wait... what... damnit... damnit! (Scream KHAN very loudly)

why is it that we got a 11:00 am pst for one episodes, and all the others... no time date. sounds pretty weird. they are pulling a cryptic again.

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08-21-2010, 10:43 AM
Once more Cryptic fail to deliver.

I was looking forward to this Episode too, Like always its late.

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08-21-2010, 10:44 AM
someone said episodes are only for those weeks only... don't believe it. since cryptic put it up on their official calendar... then its today! I love Official!!!! Cryptic is soo on top of it lately! Can't wait to play these amazing episodes today! Woot! Wait... what... damnit... damnit! (Scream KHAN very loudly)

Ha Ha Boss, I fully agree.

Lets wait till next week when they push it back again :)

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08-21-2010, 10:46 AM
someone said episodes are only for those weeks only... don't believe it. since cryptic put it up on their official calendar... then its today! I love Official!!!! Cryptic is soo on top of it lately! Can't wait to play these amazing episodes today! Woot! Wait... what... damnit... damnit! (Scream KHAN very loudly)

why is it that we got a 11:00 am pst for one episodes, and all the others... no time date. sounds pretty weird. they are pulling a cryptic again.

no that is not true, the episodes are available forever, they dont disappear after a week

they have never once said it would be available today, only that there is a release window which they can released at any point during that time

the first date they told us would most likly be this tuesday and now they have pushed it back to saturday. but its still in the window they said.

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08-21-2010, 10:47 AM
Once more Cryptic fail to deliver.

I was looking forward to this Episode too, Like always its late.

how did they fail to deliver during a week long release window, thats not over yet?

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08-21-2010, 10:47 AM
just wanting to know... look below...

http://startrekonline.com/calendar

How dense can you be?

It's a launch window! It doesn't mean exactly today, it means within the time frame of that launch window. Look, I'm as exciting to see the new episode as anyone, but that doesn't mean I gotta show my jerk around everyone about it.

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08-21-2010, 10:48 AM
The weekly episodes (weekly as in one new episode per week) are permanent additions to the game. And the first episode is going to be late by the 29th this month. :rolleyes:

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08-21-2010, 10:49 AM
How dense can you be?

It's a launch window! It doesn't mean exactly today, it means within the time frame of that launch window. Look, I'm as exciting to see the new episode as anyone, but that doesn't mean I gotta show my jerk around everyone about it.

August 2010

* 24th - 31st Feature Episode: "Serve and Protect"
o Debuts 11 a.m. Pacific.


Why would they give an exact date and time for something, but leave everything else? How dense can one be about a simple question of denseness.

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08-21-2010, 10:50 AM
i second that I was pretty enthused, woke up early and everything, *insert cry and tear fest here* alright back to broken btrans, and fails with teaming.

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08-21-2010, 10:52 AM
August 2010

* 24th - 31st Feature Episode: "Serve and Protect"
o Debuts 11 a.m. Pacific.


Why would they give an exact date and time for something, but leave everything else? How dense can one be about a simple question of denseness.

thats the LAUNCH WINDOW of the episode, and it Debuts at 11am pacific WHEN THEY RELEASE IT...

the only thing thats failed here is a large amount of people's ability to comprehend the difference between a launch DATE and a launch WINDOW..

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08-21-2010, 10:53 AM
i second that I was pretty enthused, woke up early and everything, *insert cry and tear fest here* alright back to broken btrans, and fails with teaming.

yeah, same here. I had over 100 members believe that today was the day they were releasing the episode, along with everyone last night talking about it in zone chat in gamma and pvp. just weird.

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08-21-2010, 10:54 AM
thats the LAUNCH WINDOW of the episode, and it Debuts at 11am pacific WHEN THEY RELEASE IT...

the only thing thats failed here is a large amount of people's ability to comprehend the difference between a launch DATE and a launch WINDOW..

Fascinating, isn“t it ? :)

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08-21-2010, 10:54 AM
how did they fail to deliver during a week long release window, thats not over yet?

If you actually read the devs notes you will see that the episode runs for week, the then next one comes out (they stay for more then a week but this is why they are called weekly episodes).

Also I'm correcting in saying they fail to deliver as they have never, ever met the first date on the calendar for anything.

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08-21-2010, 10:55 AM
Please keep your posts on topic. ~GM Tiyshen

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08-21-2010, 10:56 AM
If you actually read the devs notes you will see that the episode runs for week, the then next one comes out (they stay for more then a week but this is why they are called weekly episodes).

Also I'm correcting in saying they fail to deliver as they have never, ever met the first date on the calendar for anything.

I remember some c-store additions that came at the start of launch windows. :rolleyes:

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08-21-2010, 10:57 AM
thats the LAUNCH WINDOW of the episode, and it Debuts at 11am pacific WHEN THEY RELEASE IT...

the only thing thats failed here is a large amount of people's ability to comprehend the difference between a launch DATE and a launch WINDOW..

comprehend? Then tell me why others were mislead into "not comprehending" when it would be released? There seems to be some type of wording on the calendar that other people (hundreds, if not thousands) were feeling... mislead, nor not comprehending the official time and release date.

Ive been on these forums longer than you, and well know how the calendar works. I just find it interesting that they would specific an exact time for release for an episode but not the others. The calendar is not directly giving the correct information as one episode is, making you feel that they are going to be released at 11:00, even when the episodes are not listed on the right side.

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08-21-2010, 10:57 AM
This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines (http://forums.startrekonline.com/announcement.php?f=70&a=2) ~GM Tiyshen

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08-21-2010, 10:59 AM
Apparently paint chips taste good.

So, are you implying that I do something related to paint chips? I find that very offensive that you posted that. :eek:

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08-21-2010, 11:00 AM
comprehend? Then tell me why others were mislead into "not comprehending" when it would be released? There seems to be some type of wording on the calendar that other people (hundreds, if not thousands) were feeling... mislead, nor not comprehending the official time and release date.

Ive been on these forums longer than you, and well know how the calendar works. I just find it interesting that they would specific an exact time for release for an episode but not the others. The calendar is not directly giving the correct information as one episode is, making you feel that they are going to be released at 11:00, even when the episodes are not listed on the right side.

I agree, Cryptic fanbois just don't want to accept its late.

So if the next episode comes out on time, we will have two weekly episodes in one week lol

Think about it

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08-21-2010, 11:00 AM
August 2010

* 24th - 31st Feature Episode: "Serve and Protect"
o Debuts 11 a.m. Pacific.


Why would they give an exact date and time for something, but leave everything else? How dense can one be about a simple question of denseness.

It will be released on 11 a.m. at a day between the 24th and the 31st. How you read it the Formal Wear costume pack would have vanished from the C-Store after the 18th.

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08-21-2010, 11:02 AM
Like the people who are willing to let Cryptic get away with not delivering on time.

Your the kind of person who watches a McDonalds worker spit on there Burger and then thanks them for the extra sauce.

I like how you people don't understand what a weekly episode is lol.

and its for this reason that the game will die, if cryptic can't live up to its promises it shouldn't make any, thats why when you go to computer stores now you can buy a 2 pack special edition city of herose and villains for ten bucks, and i bet thats even a tad overpriced if this is the service you can expect, and here i was thinkin that Blizzard was a bunch of losers. :( had high hopes for this game and the friendlyness of the users. so much for that stuff :(
and who eats paintchips and calling peole Dense? what the heck guys? shouldn't we be all sticking together against cryptic and keeping them honest? who has the WikiLeaks site for cryptic's stuff?

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08-21-2010, 11:04 AM
It will be released on 11 a.m. at a day between the 24th and the 31st. How you read it the Formal Wear costume pack would have vanished from the C-Store after the 18th.

The point is that if the next WEEKLY episode comes out on the correct date, we will get two weekly episodes in one week. Unless they plan on hitting the back end date on that one two.

Or Cryptic planned it like this all along and the calendar is totally pointless.

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08-21-2010, 11:05 AM
So, are you implying that I do something related to paint chips? I find that very offensive that you posted that. :eek:

So you can read into a paint chips comment, but can't comprehend what a launch window is?

Btw, I didn't say that you eat paint chips or anything like that. I just said "Apparently, paint chips taste good."

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08-21-2010, 11:06 AM
So you can read into a paint chips comment, but can't comprehend what a launch window is?

Btw, I didn't say that you eat paint chips or anything like that. I just said "Apparently, paint chips taste good."

This guy is obviously just a troll, give him a week before he get the Ban hammer.

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08-21-2010, 11:06 AM
Apparently paint chips taste good.

You mean wall candy?

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08-21-2010, 11:10 AM
Like the people who are willing to let Cryptic get away with not delivering on time.

Your the kind of person who watches a McDonalds worker spit on there Burger and then thanks them for the extra sauce.

I like how you people don't understand what a weekly episode is lol.

Actually i'm the kind of person who works with complex computer systems, networks and programs and understands that trying to put an exact date on making something new using those types of things is impossible.

i'm betting you've never worked to a deadline in your life right?

comprehend? Then tell me why others were mislead into "not comprehending" when it would be released? There seems to be some type of wording on the calendar that other people (hundreds, if not thousands) were feeling... mislead, nor not comprehending the official time and release date.

Ive been on these forums longer than you, and well know how the calendar works. I just find it interesting that they would specific an exact time for release for an episode but not the others. The calendar is not directly giving the correct information as one episode is, making you feel that they are going to be released at 11:00, even when the episodes are not listed on the right side.

so your being on the forums for longer means what? you understand how the calender they implemented with the website revamp at launch better than someone who was also here when it was changed?

do they really have to sit down and put a disclaimer on every single launch window that the first day of the window doesnt mean the feature will 100% be implemented at that time?

thats getting into the realms of having to put a disclaimer on bags of peanuts saying "caution, contents may contain nuts"


the "weekly episodes" idea is to try and give it a feel like when the TV shows were on and a new episode came out each week. the missions stay around, you get an accolade if you complete them within the week.

I've been anticipating this as much as anyone else has, and have been holding off moving most of my admirals past the old cap so i can level on these rather than grinding out explorations, but i'm not throwing toys out the pram and being attacking other people because they didnt happen today.

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08-21-2010, 11:17 AM
Actually i'm the kind of person who works with complex computer systems, networks and programs and understands that trying to put an exact date on making something new using those types of things is impossible.

i'm betting you've never worked to a deadline in your life right?



so your being on the forums for longer means what? you understand how the calender they implemented with the website revamp at launch better than someone who was also here when it was changed?

do they really have to sit down and put a disclaimer on every single launch window that the first day of the window doesnt mean the feature will 100% be implemented at that time?

thats getting into the realms of having to put a disclaimer on bags of peanuts saying "caution, contents may contain nuts"


the "weekly episodes" idea is to try and give it a feel like when the TV shows were on and a new episode came out each week. the missions stay around, you get an accolade if you complete them within the week.

I've been anticipating this as much as anyone else has, and have been holding off moving most of my admirals past the old cap so i can level on these rather than grinding out explorations, but i'm not throwing toys out the pram and being attacking other people because they didnt happen today.


Good Idea on the Peanuts...........always wondered what they put in those bags, since they always have some crazy logo all over the bag! Vipe has a valid point, Why bother building a calendear and tying up your devs to make it, when you clearly don't intend to stick to it.

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08-21-2010, 11:20 AM
Cryptic never said a specific date for the start of the weekly missions..I was under the impression for the last few weeks that it was coming on this upcoming Tuesday (I believe I got that impression from a dev post a while back and/or from a previous episode of STOked). I was never under the impression, because the release window started today...think about it: nearly all the content that's been added has been during the work week.

If a bunch of people thought that the weekly missions were starting today because the beginning of the launch window was today..well, that's their fault for assuming. It was never stated that the weekly content started today, only that the launch window began today. I can understand your disappointment..it is a bummer, I wish it was today (I'm looking forward to the weekly stuff with great interest myself!), but getting mad about it is just silly, given the circumstances.

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08-21-2010, 11:20 AM
Actually i'm the kind of person who works with complex computer systems, networks and programs and understands that trying to put an exact date on making something new using those types of things is impossible.

i'm betting you've never worked to a deadline in your life right?



so your being on the forums for longer means what? you understand how the calender they implemented with the website revamp at launch better than someone who was also here when it was changed?

do they really have to sit down and put a disclaimer on every single launch window that the first day of the window doesnt mean the feature will 100% be implemented at that time?

thats getting into the realms of having to put a disclaimer on bags of peanuts saying "caution, contents may contain nuts"


the "weekly episodes" idea is to try and give it a feel like when the TV shows were on and a new episode came out each week. the missions stay around, you get an accolade if you complete them within the week.

I've been anticipating this as much as anyone else has, and have been holding off moving most of my admirals past the old cap so i can level on these rather than grinding out explorations, but i'm not throwing toys out the pram and being attacking other people because they didnt happen today.

Yet another guy who works in a development computer job which lends him this wonderful insight into exactly how deadlines work. You know, given the amount of expert programmers who work for big name development firms out there, it is a miracle that there is any other industry...

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08-21-2010, 11:21 AM
i give up. the first episode is due next saturday, part of the window shown on the calendar. its pretty clear to me

if you dont like it or think cryptic have failed by not releasing it on the first day of a window then thats your business and not my problem

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08-21-2010, 11:25 AM
Sorry I had to do the wall candy joke, its in my contract.

As to the issue at hand. While it it could be seen as a launch window, and not a date per say; having the time of day it will be released with an 8-day block of time does tend to suggest that the 21st to the 28th is when the week's episode starts and finishes. If they hadn't put in a time of day, I think this would be a non issue, but they did and now some folks are steamed.

Me I'm not steamed, but I will admit that this sort of thing does tend to needlessly reflect badly on the company. I'm not going to disparage any part of the folks making the game or marketing the game but it seems there are some interdepartmental communication issues that are leading to ill will in the customer base. I would suggest this is an issue to be internally addressed as soon as possible.

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08-21-2010, 11:26 AM
i give up. the first episode is due next saturday, part of the window shown on the calendar. its pretty clear to me

if you dont like it or think cryptic have failed by not releasing it on the first day of a window then thats your business and not my problem

Isnt that what that bar implies that its a window. Its one of the reasons that programs like project do that, because it means that it can fall anywhere in those dates. I must be that crazy project manager thing, but i didnt get that if it wasnt delivered today it would be a failure, but heh i dont try to judge.

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08-21-2010, 11:29 AM
Sorry I had to do the wall candy joke, its in my contract.

As to the issue at hand. While it it could be seen as a launch window, and not a date per say; having the time of day it will be released with an 8-day block of time does tend to suggest that the 21st to the 28th is when the week's episode starts and finishes. If they hadn't put in a time of day, I think this would be a non issue, but they did and now some folks are steamed.

Me I'm not steamed, but I will admit that this sort of thing does tend to needlessly reflect badly on the company. I'm not going to disparage any part of the folks making the game or marketing the game but it seems there are some interdepartmental communication issues that are leading to ill will in the customer base. I would suggest this is an issue to be internally addressed as soon as possible.

Actually Lead has been used as a sweetener several times in history, as long as you take lots of calcium its not an issue, because your bones perfer calcium over lead. Hence the reason for all that goverment cheese and cheap milk. The cheapest way to fight lead poisoning in children because alot of low income housing has lead paint was thru diet. Plus, kids need it to grow health and whatnot, so it was a win for big goverment.

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08-21-2010, 11:29 AM
How dense can you be?

It's a launch window! It doesn't mean exactly today, it means within the time frame of that launch window. Look, I'm as exciting to see the new episode as anyone, but that doesn't mean I gotta show my jerk around everyone about it.

ok man about as dense as you for not reading that people already explained this to the op.... no need for you to be rude to the kid...

that being said, i was hoping they would have suprised us with releasing it today, since they have batched up everyother release, they suposadly had this pretty much wrapped up when season 2 went live, so i dont see what the problem is, unless they lied to us about having it almost ready to go... that would be different, cryptic lieing to us. lol.... i will be patient as they have a launch window, but i think it would have helped there decision to release it today. there just does not seem to be any kind of urgency with the team. if i am told to have a program ready for a certain date, you better believe it is delivered by that date.. and with no bugs as i would get fired if it was late or buggy. but this also means that i put the xtra hours in, and make sure it is quality and ready... if they had done this they might have suprised people and maybe changed the on going opinion a little....

just my 2 cents

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08-21-2010, 11:29 AM
Yet another guy who works in a development computer job which lends him this wonderful insight into exactly how deadlines work. You know, given the amount of expert programmers who work for big name development firms out there, it is a miracle that there is any other industry...

thats quite an assumption...

I work in geophysic data processing. my company uses its own software for much of that, as is standard across that industry. all of that is coded in-house (not by me personally i might add)

So i see the R&D guys there, struggling with impossible deadlines, my own work in data reformatting quality control has some pretty harsh deadlines to it, but sometimes things just dont mesh or work as intended and its just not ready on-time.

in fact, my department is currently about 6 YEARS behind on a deadline.

so if they've not delivered by the end of the window, yeah go ahead and complain, just dont expect any sympathy from me for doing it at the START of said window.

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08-21-2010, 11:54 AM
From Dstahl's Tweet...........

Cryptic_dStahl

1. Finishing up the last touches on Weekly Series 1: The Breen. The first episode "Cold Call" goes live Saturday Aug 28 at 11:00am Pacific!

http://twitter.com/Cryptic_dStahl

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08-21-2010, 11:54 AM
ok man about as dense as you for not reading that people already explained this to the op.... no need for you to be rude to the kid...

that being said, i was hoping they would have suprised us with releasing it today, since they have batched up everyother release, they suposadly had this pretty much wrapped up when season 2 went live, so i dont see what the problem is, unless they lied to us about having it almost ready to go... that would be different, cryptic lieing to us. lol.... i will be patient as they have a launch window, but i think it would have helped there decision to release it today. there just does not seem to be any kind of urgency with the team. if i am told to have a program ready for a certain date, you better believe it is delivered by that date.. and with no bugs as i would get fired if it was late or buggy. but this also means that i put the xtra hours in, and make sure it is quality and ready... if they had done this they might have suprised people and maybe changed the on going opinion a little....

just my 2 cents

Hey killa,
I commented that after they had brushed off several reasonable explanations.

*edit* I recommend posts #'s 7 & 8 for anyone who think I might have been over-board at that point, because if you read up to there, there were at least three reasonable explanations as to what a launch window meant.

Here's a quote from the OP, and after this... how could anyone resist?

they are pulling a cryptic again.

At any rate,
it's best not to complain guys. If you complain, Cryptic takes down the Calendar and then we don't have a clue when stuff gets released. I'd rather have a vast launch window that might be subject to change than to have absolutely no idea what's coming up and when it's coming up, and what order.

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08-21-2010, 12:01 PM
Normally I'm right in line with the "this is a window" side of the debate.

But not this time.

These are weekly episodes. To put them off for an entire week ruins the whole schedule. The whole deadline. The whole point of the process.

Sure the episode will be around after a week. But they claimed these weekly episodes would have special rewards only available during their "window" of being new and live.

They created this mess by wanting to do a weekly episode schedule but not even being able to patch effectively once a week.

I'm with the rest of the posters this time people. This is confusing. And already looks like it won't work very well.

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08-21-2010, 12:01 PM
While it it could be seen as a launch window, and not a date per say; having the time of day it will be released with an 8-day block of time does tend to suggest that the 21st to the 28th is when the week's episode starts and finishes. If they hadn't put in a time of day, I think this would be a non issue, but they did and now some folks are steamed.
Except that the missions do not end after one week; they are a permanent (http://www.massively.com/2010/07/26/our-interview-with-star-trek-onlines-executive-producer-dan-sta/) part of the game once added. It is not Cryptic's fault that people are having difficulty understanding a launch window on the calendar. It is solely the fault of the people who cannot understand something that simple.

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08-21-2010, 12:10 PM
Finishing up the last touches on Weekly Series 1: The Breen. The first episode "Cold Call" goes live Saturday Aug 28 at 11:00am Pacific!


Okey why the heck have the launch window from today then when you know its coming out on the 28th and 11:00 am? kinda misleading if you ask me but then again you guys are cryptic ...

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08-21-2010, 12:10 PM
Normally I'm right in line with the "this is a window" side of the debate.

But not this time.

These are weekly episodes. To put them off for an entire week ruins the whole schedule. The whole deadline. The whole point of the process.

Sure the episode will be around after a week. But they claimed these weekly episodes would have special rewards only available during their "window" of being new and live.

They created this mess by wanting to do a weekly episode schedule but not even being able to patch effectively once a week.

I'm with the rest of the posters this time people. This is confusing. And already looks like it won't work very well.

the original plan was to have the first one this tuesday and the next one next tuesday

if they have decided to release the first one saturday, then the next one iwill most likely be the following saturday so the schedule is a few days later but it does not change the actual process

and as far as i understand it you can do all the episodes (5 i believe) in the last week and still get the reward. you dont have to do them each week

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08-21-2010, 12:13 PM
the original plan was to have the first one this tuesday and the next one next tuesday

if they have decided to release the first one saturday, then the next one iwill most likely be the following saturday so the schedule is a few days later but it does not change the actual process

and as far as i understand it you can do all the episodes (5 i believe) in the last week and still get the reward. you dont have to do them each week

This is my warning to players and devs alike ...

This schedule is too tight for the same dev team that can't fix exploration bugs in less than a month's time. This schedule is too inflexible for a dev team that needs 2 or more weeks to tweak a PVP queue system. There will be a bug. That will break one of these episodes. And that will cause a traffic jam in the entire schedule.

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08-21-2010, 12:13 PM
Finishing up the last touches on Weekly Series 1: The Breen. The first episode "Cold Call" goes live Saturday Aug 28 at 11:00am Pacific!


Okey why the heck have the launch window from today then when you know its coming out on the 28th and 11:00 am? kinda misleading if you ask me but then again you guys are cryptic ...

because the calendar went up about 3 weeks ago and they probably did not know what they know now. that is the entire point some of us have been trying to make. you cant nail these dates down weeks in advance. they need some leeway

perhaps if they had not had some of the stability issues it might have been today or the tuesday as they had originally indicated.

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08-21-2010, 12:13 PM
Except that the missions do not end after one week; they are a permanent (http://www.massively.com/2010/07/26/our-interview-with-star-trek-onlines-executive-producer-dan-sta/) part of the game once added. It is not Cryptic's fault that people are having difficulty understanding a launch window on the calendar. It is solely the fault of the people who cannot understand something that simple.

No the missions in question do not end after that time period, the extra reward/completion accolade/magic e-cookies however DO expire (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=2917392#post2917392).


To qualify for the special Series 1 reward - you'll need to play all of the episodes in Series 1 before Series 2 starts. (normal mission rewards can still be obtained anytime you play the mission in the future - the special reward is an additional bonus if you played them during their Live season - aka before they go into reruns).

So to see that week long window as the time frame to get said magic e-cookies, is understandable, and not bait for petty insults to comprehension skills.

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08-21-2010, 12:16 PM
No the missions in question do not end after that time period, the extra reward/completion accolade/magic e-cookies however DO expire (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=2917392#post2917392).
I apologize, then. I had not seen any of the mentions about special rewards before. Thanks for the link.

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08-21-2010, 12:17 PM
This is my warning to players and devs alike ...

This schedule is too tight for the same dev team that can't fix exploration bugs in less than a month's time. This schedule is too inflexible for a dev team that needs 2 or more weeks to tweak a PVP queue system. There will be a bug. That will break one of these episodes. And that will cause a traffic jam in the entire schedule.

perhaps, in all honesty im not 100% optimistic this will go that well but lets see it first

and if the next mission in the chain is late, so what? its not going to be the end of the world.

the end result is if it fails and they release them all in one go instead of in weekly blocks, so we get 4 or 5 hit us in one go every 6 weeks or so

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08-21-2010, 12:21 PM
So to see that week long window as the time frame to get said magic e-cookies, is understandable, and not bait for petty insults to comprehension skills.

he said the episodes have to be completed before season 2 starts. i read that as you can do all the mission together at the end or at anytime through season 1 as long as you do them before season 2 starts, so you dont have to do each one each week. you can skip a week or two and just catch up and still get the special rewards

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08-21-2010, 12:27 PM
I'm not expecting anything from the devs this weekend:

heh think we scared the devs off with our Enterprise J & Faction "threads"? :O

ppsssst devs... is the first episode of the weekly thingy mabobs still on for tomorrow ? :D

No, but I think it's pretty much the end of a workday on Friday now. Most of us are heading home for the weekend at this point. ;)

See you guys next week!

Stormshade

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08-21-2010, 12:33 PM
I'm not expecting anything from the devs this weekend:

Heh. I know alllllllll about that particular post. If I said what I wanted to say about that, Info Ninja would probably stop by this thread. So I'll just keep my mouth shut.

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08-21-2010, 12:35 PM
All this is a reason they never should have put up a calendar in the first place. It is disappointing that it wont be released on the first day but as long as it is in the time frame who cares as they are still "on time". By putting up a calender it just gives people another thing to complain about and to cause more confusion. They should announce it until they know for sure as people clearly cannot handle a a time frame they need exact dates.
I also question though if they can really make weekly episodes. I mean they can not even keep up with the bugs as it is. Unless they are hiring new people I fail to see how this is even possible.

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08-21-2010, 12:40 PM
Heh. I know alllllllll about that particular post. If I said what I wanted to say about that, Info Ninja would probably stop by this thread. So I'll just keep my mouth shut.

You will divulge the information or face the consequences... :eek:

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08-21-2010, 12:46 PM
because the calendar went up about 3 weeks ago and they probably did not know what they know now. that is the entire point some of us have been trying to make. you cant nail these dates down weeks in advance. they need some leeway

There a twofold aspect to this, 1st I'll admit I don't write code, I haven't published software, not am I much schooled in the running of an MMO; however "Ish" as a release date on something looks bad. Yes I know that most computer games the moment you install it, you have patches, but Starcraft 2 was scheduled for July 27, and hit the 27th. It wasn't SC2: Coming July 27th-ish....Probably. I'm not going to pull out the "OMG Cryptic must do X to survive," however the "its done when we get it done," looks bad.

To my 2nd point, I can accept an Ish-based "its done when we get it done," schedule, but they have to be upfront about it. That includes not setting street dates until its flip the switch on, done. I'm willing to accept quality over timeliness, but there has to be transparency in that. Making "promises" (and I say "promises," b/c I know they don't "owe" us anything) they can't keep to the player base is almost as bad as game breaking bugs.

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08-21-2010, 12:47 PM
I apologize, then. I had not seen any of the mentions about special rewards before. Thanks for the link.

Apology accepted, and thank you for be gracious enough to offer it.

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08-21-2010, 12:58 PM
I really hope they don't refer to them in "Seasons" because if they do, I see this on the forums as a reality.


You have to finish it before Season 4!

Why do I have to do it before the update?"

No, no, no not the update Season 4, the season 4 episodes

How can I complete the episodes in Season 4 before the update come out?

The episode series that is labeled Season 4

OHHHHH, like the ones in the calendar!




Just label them as Series not Seasons.

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08-21-2010, 01:22 PM
No the missions in question do not end after that time period, the extra reward/completion accolade/magic e-cookies however DO expire (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=2917392#post2917392).

So to see that week long window as the time frame to get said magic e-cookies, is understandable, and not bait for petty insults to comprehension skills.

According to that link, the "First Run" reward is for completing the series before the next series "airs".

AIUI, there will be a week or two gap between series to allow for scheduling slack during which you can "catch up with your Tivo" if you need it. (You will have until Episode 2-1 is released to complete episodes 1-1 through 1-N for the bonus cookie.)

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08-21-2010, 01:53 PM
This is my warning to players and devs alike ...

This schedule is too tight for the same dev team that can't fix exploration bugs in less than a month's time. This schedule is too inflexible for a dev team that needs 2 or more weeks to tweak a PVP queue system. There will be a bug. That will break one of these episodes. And that will cause a traffic jam in the entire schedule.

from what was said in the interviews for the launch of season 2, the majority of the coding for the weekly episodes was done as part of the buildup to that launch.

all that would need doing is tweaking things like spawn rates, difficulty levels, dialogue and so on.

which is probably why they've committed to putting new ones out weekly.

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08-21-2010, 01:57 PM
from what was said in the interviews for the launch of season 2, the majority of the coding for the weekly episodes was done as part of the buildup to that launch.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.

Season 2?

The bug ridden, problem filled, unplayable season 2 that's been given game breaking patch after game breaking patch for 3 weeks now?

You see why this does not inspire any confidence in me?

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08-21-2010, 02:45 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.

Season 2?

The bug ridden, problem filled, unplayable season 2 that's been given game breaking patch after game breaking patch for 3 weeks now?

You see why this does not inspire any confidence in me?

not to be a total troll but i can assure you i wount run theese weekely episodes from the day they are launched incase they forget to include item rewards etc in the missions... you know like they did with the klingon missions...

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08-21-2010, 02:58 PM
Apology accepted, and thank you for be gracious enough to offer it.
I've no problem acknowledging and apologizing when I've unfairly jumped the gun. :)

Looking at the calendar again and the way other items are listed, I think it's still more likely to be a release window, rather than the period in which any special rewards could be given for the mission. I would imagine it'd be fairly easy for the devs to make the rewards unlockable for 7-days following the time when the mission does go live. Of course, I'm not software developer myself, so I could easily be off-base.

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08-21-2010, 02:59 PM
not to be a total troll but i can assure you i wount run theese weekely episodes from the day they are launched incase they forget to include item rewards etc in the missions... you know like they did with the klingon missions...

Wow. That's not trolling I don't think. That's actually a good point. The KDF missions are brand new content they created. Much like these weeklies will be. And they got tested on Tribble. Unlike these new weeklies. And yeah, there definitely was an issue with there being no rewards.

That's just you voicing some feedback and some concerns. If that's trolling then these forums have really taken a left turn at the corner of surreal street and insane avenue.

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08-21-2010, 03:07 PM
not to be a total troll but i can assure you i wount run theese weekely episodes from the day they are launched incase they forget to include item rewards etc in the missions... you know like they did with the klingon missions...

Yup yup. Cryptic has taught us that it's not wise to be an early adopter on these... nothing wrong with that.

Wouldn't surprise me if weekly episodes are delayed due to bugs but I consider that a good thing. DStahl did tell us that their focus on quality may delay releases.

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08-21-2010, 03:10 PM
per the calendar... it says today!

Do you see the long bar that is going through a few days?

It is presumed to be out today, but not guaranteed, thats why the bar passes through some days and not just today.

If it would come out on a specific date they would have marked it with a cross probably... but its a long bar, so it migh tcome out tomorrow or in 1 week.

Relax

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08-23-2010, 10:35 AM
and its for this reason that the game will die, if cryptic can't live up to its promises it shouldn't make any, thats why when you go to computer stores now you can buy a 2 pack special edition city of herose and villains for ten bucks, and i bet thats even a tad overpriced if this is the service you can expect, and here i was thinkin that Blizzard was a bunch of losers. :( had high hopes for this game and the friendlyness of the users. so much for that stuff :(
and who eats paintchips and calling peole Dense? what the heck guys? shouldn't we be all sticking together against cryptic and keeping them honest? who has the WikiLeaks site for cryptic's stuff?

Again, its called a WINDOW. Are you teenie boppers still learning to reason at all in high school? Oh no, there is to much indoc going on in schools to allow learning to read much less the use of reason.

It is the dense readers failing here, not the Calander.

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08-23-2010, 10:38 AM
Again, its called a WINDOW. Are you teenie boppers still learning to reason at all in high school? Oh no, there is to much indoc going on in schools to allow learning to read much less the use of reason.

It is the dense readers failing here, not the Calander.

What good is a multi-week WINDOW on a weekly schedule?

That's the issue here. Cryptic has trouble doing anything once a week in terms of moving stuff over to live. And the calendar just sort of underscores that entire history.

A great example? Season 1.3 patch.

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08-23-2010, 10:52 AM
What good is a multi-week WINDOW on a weekly schedule?

That's the issue here. Cryptic has trouble doing anything once a week in terms of moving stuff over to live. And the calendar just sort of underscores that entire history.

A great example? Season 1.3 patch.

Yes, you have a very valid point in that regard. But that's not the point people are barking about. It is frustrating at best but certainly not a game breaker. Game breakers are in mass abundance in many other areas, this being the least of them if at all.

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08-23-2010, 11:22 AM
The calender is useless, might as well scrap it and just release it when it's ready instead of these unrealistic time tables.

You fail cryptic