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03-21-2011, 12:12 PM
I traded a player 15 million for an efficient tactical saurian. Once it is in the trade window you can no longer see the officers stats. He got 15 million credits and i got a worthless non-efficient saurian. The name of the officer was also different. He claims he put the same officer in the trade window that he showed me with the efficient traits. Also said it must be a "glitch."

My question is this even possible, or has anyone ever heard of this happening. He seemed to be concerned about it, but he got the credits and i got nothing. Somehow i have the felling i got hosed. If you would like to know more on how to avoid this in the future, send me a mail.

Thanks for your info,

Finelli of Resistance Alpha

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03-21-2011, 12:16 PM
I guess you could avoid this by buying only through the exchange, where stats are visible to the moment you press the buy button. It does seem horribly broken though that you can't view item stats from the trade window. Also, if he was really "concerned" about it then he wouldn't have ripped you off in the first place.

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03-21-2011, 12:31 PM
A 'glitch' huh? Yeah, you got swindled.

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03-21-2011, 12:37 PM
I think cryptic might do someting about it, if you can remember his handle and the day it happened and time.

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03-21-2011, 01:12 PM
Ya, you got scammed. Hopefully the in game gms will give you a hand.

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03-22-2011, 02:37 PM
Thanks for the responses. To clear things up there is no problem with the trade system other than you can't see an officers stats. Unfortunately from this post i am 1 of 3 victims so far.

This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ( http://forums.startrekonline.com/announcement.php?f=70&a=2) GMMeeko

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03-22-2011, 02:45 PM
You shouldn't really mention names on this forum. It's against the forum rules and might get you a temporary ban.

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03-22-2011, 07:26 PM
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03-22-2011, 08:33 PM
:mad: This is disgracefull behavior.. I hope you find some recourse. I'd expect the GM's to be willing to assist if they have any meants to do so. Please keep us posted about whether or not they can help.

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03-22-2011, 09:41 PM
Hey guys,

Remember do not name and shame in the forums, it is against the rules. If you suspect a player to be cheating, report them right away. You can also send a ticket about the situation and someone will look it over.
Click on this link below if you wish to submit a ticket:

Atari Support (http://www.atari.com/support/startrekonline)

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03-22-2011, 09:42 PM
Hey guys,

Remember do not name and shame in the forums, it is against the rules. If you suspect a player to be cheating, report them right away. You can also send a ticket about the situation and someone will look it over.
Click on this link below if you wish to submit a ticket:

Atari Support (http://www.atari.com/support/startrekonline)

Disregard this post...

Naming names is the only way to not get scammed.

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03-22-2011, 09:43 PM
I was just made aware of this post, and my name is now being slandered in zone chat @ ESD. I made no bad dealings... and it's funny how all these people are coming out of the wood-works and jumping on the band-wagon about me scamming... I have only made honest dealings, I am a veteran player who has been an upstanding member of this community. I can't believe this is even allowed... I don't know how I made any of these people mad, if indeed I did at all, but for false rumors like this to be slandering my name... that's pathetic... I'm the one always trying to help others, giving gear and EC's away, I'm in a large fleet that takes good care of me, and I have basically all the gear I could care to have, so tell me now, what do I have to gain from scamming people for energy credits?!?? I want this post removed, and I feel the posters who are slandering my name should be at least temp banned for making the community distrust me under false pretenses.

I will be reporting this...

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03-22-2011, 09:45 PM
I was just made aware of this post, and my name is now being slandered in zone chat @ ESD. I made no bad dealings... and it's funny how all these people are coming out of the wood-works and jumping on the band-wagon about me scamming... I have only made honest dealings, I am a veteran player who has been an upstanding member of this community. I can't believe this is even allowed... I don't know how I made any of these people mad, if indeed I did at all, but for false rumors like this to be slandering my name... that's pathetic... I'm the one always trying to help others, giving gear and EC's away, I'm in a large fleet that takes good care of me, and I have basically all the gear I could care to have, so tell me now, what do I have to gain from scamming people for energy credits?!?? I want this post removed, and I feel the posters who are slandering my name should be at least temp banned for making the community distrust me under false pretenses.

I will be reporting this...

scammer.


and thanks for outing yourself.

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03-22-2011, 09:51 PM
I don't have to get into a word duel with you, I know I am innocent, and I know the GM's can see this as well... I have no idea where all these reports are coming from, and I really don't care as long as they stop. I'm not battling anyone who wishes to call me a scammer, because they simply read someone's post, and decided to side with them, without any proof of any kind to back up the lie... if this was a police matter, they would say there is no evidence to support your accusation, so why is anyone siding with him? I've done nothing at all wrong.

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03-22-2011, 09:56 PM
I don't have to get into a word duel with you, I know I am innocent, and I know the GM's can see this as well... I have no idea where all these reports are coming from, and I really don't care as long as they stop. I'm not battling anyone who wishes to call me a scammer, because they simply read someone's post, and decided to side with them, without any proof of any kind to back up the lie... if this was a police matter, they would say there is no evidence to support your accusation, so why is anyone siding with him? I've done nothing at all wrong.

Yeah, but this isn't a crime.

Just a case of beware of scammers.

3 people wouldn't just accuse you out of the blue.

EDIT: I've been silenced so im not ignoring anyone.

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03-22-2011, 10:00 PM
If you haven't noticed, there are people in sto that just like to cause drama, I've seen it countless times in zone chat at ESD where someone just tries to **** other people off... my guess is that this is an attempt to do just that, just because a few people want to upset me... I'm not going to let that happen, I will not give in to such people... ever.

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03-22-2011, 10:05 PM
If you haven't noticed, there are people in sto that just like to cause drama, I've seen it countless times in zone chat at ESD where someone just tries to **** other people off... my guess is that this is an attempt to do just that, just because a few people want to upset me... I'm not going to let that happen, I will not give in to such people... ever.

If you only have crappy BO's, (your own words), why you selling for 15Mil?

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03-22-2011, 10:27 PM
I haven't sold any of "my" BO's at all...

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03-22-2011, 10:35 PM
I haven't sold any of "my" BO's at all...

Funny how your story changes...


It's too bad people can't read what actually was said in ESD.

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03-22-2011, 10:39 PM
What's funny is that your the one running your mouth when you have absolutely no involvement in this at all, your just fanning the fire... so I'm done discussing it with you

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03-22-2011, 10:53 PM
What's funny is that your the one running your mouth when you have absolutely no involvement in this at all, your just fanning the fire... so I'm done discussing it with you

Just making people aware and pointing out dishonest behavior.

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03-22-2011, 11:08 PM
Just making people aware and pointing out dishonest behavior.

Of which you have ZERO facts to prove I have acted in any dishonest way.

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03-22-2011, 11:32 PM
Of which you have ZERO facts to prove I have acted in any dishonest way.

Only your changing story. Thats enough for me.

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03-22-2011, 11:34 PM
This is precisely the reason why forums have rules talking about people being banned and naming individuals in accusations. While yes, naming names is one of the best defenses against scams and the like. However it only takes one individual angry, or frustrated or simply a troll to toss out a false accusation and you can have a persons name ruined.

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03-23-2011, 12:01 AM
This is precisely the reason why forums have rules talking about people being banned and naming individuals in accusations. While yes, naming names is one of the best defenses against scams and the like. However it only takes one individual angry, or frustrated or simply a troll to toss out a false accusation and you can have a persons name ruined.

I thank you for pointing that out, it seems people are so quick to judge without reason... The forums can be a great place to make people aware, but also a great place for people to vent and slander.

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03-23-2011, 01:16 PM
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03-23-2011, 01:51 PM
That's sort of a logical falacy. As an individual who is innocent will defend their innocents with as much vigor as an individual who is guilty. It is akin to calling an Orange and Apple because it denies that it is an Apple. Had you been acused of such actions, or I been acused of such actions either of us would be here denying the clains as readily as CJK here. Am I saying he's Innocent? No. Am I saying he's guilty because someone has accused of doing something? No. Words are words, so CJK is Innocent until proven otherwise. Degrading his name and saying he's guilty will do nothing to help the situation, and only serve to make it worse if he is innocent.

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03-23-2011, 02:21 PM
This is precisely the reason why forums have rules talking about people being banned and naming individuals in accusations.
Which is why I am shutting down here as well now. You saw the pervious warnings given. Continuing after that was not the right option here. :(