Fix the Guramba Siege mode

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Since alot of other ships are getting fix lets look at the Guramba.

The Guramba dynamic work perfectly, Siege mode works as it name state as a siege dynamic.

When Javalin was implemented it was 1/3 more powerful than phase lance on the galaxy X.
Both ships were consider gimp by testers and players, compared to other ships its level it did not meet the standard.

The Galaxy X was buff with an extra weapon slot and boosted phaser lance to javelin potency.

No such buffs were ever given to the Guramba destroyer after its fed counter part was buff into line with other ships.

Repeated testers during beta of this ship requested over and over again to drop the -50% turn rate in siege mode. I myself did not like this suggestion, the word siege mode fit the lower turn rate, why not instead buff Siege mode with a extra shield regeneration rate. Giving the player, the option to fight like a tanky/escort with bad maneuverability or a normal escort with maneuverability.

Lets look at siege mode +10 weapon , + 5 shield, -50% turn rate, minor energy drain on opponent.

We sacrifice a engineering console for this, why when we already sacrifice a -50% turn rate when entering Siege mode.

My proposal

Siege mode, +10 weapon, +5 shields,-50% turn rate, Minor energy drain on opponent, + 22% regeneration rate on shields.

It would take 5 + turn rate console to get +50% turn rate,

If you count the -1 engineering console the guramba already has, + this -50% disadvantage .
You just gimp your self -6 engineering console by entering siege mode.

Now lets add the advantages
+10 weapons power is 1.8 consoles, +5 shield is .8 consoles, so stander siege mode has a buff of about 2.6 console which is overcome by the -6 already in place from the gimps to siege mode.

If we add 22% regeneration to this which is the equivalent of 2 regeneration consoles, we get +4.6 -6= -1.4 consoles, still a little gimp but much on the same line with other ships with javelin to compensate.

There is no need to state Javelin draw back, but if a reminder is need i will state it; While firing Javelin all other weapon stop = a neutral effect, the loss of dps from weapons is compensated by javelin but no real gain is occurred.

This ship might not get the attention so much because of its numbers but if people are will to shell out $25 let at least make it equal to other ships. I only use this ship to gimp myself because my raptor is easy mode. Plus it looks menacing .

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Does transforming still break tractor beams?

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Your numbers are suspicious but I appreciate the sentiment. In your calculations you count a -50% turn radius as the loss of 5 consoles, fair enough, but if used strategically siege mode is a tool you'd implement against larger, heavier and yes, slower ships where the loss of turn radius is a happy sacrifice for a Beam Overload with an extra punch. So sure, it's really more akin to removing the 5 consoles you don't need in favor of gaining the ability that you do.

But still, if they want to buff siege mode, I am all for it. I'd be happy with a shield buff, or a turn radius buff, or even the ability to continue firing my weapons during the javelin shot. I think your suggestion might be a bit much.

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Does transforming still break tractor beams?

No but when ur tractor its very bad to be in siege mode with -10 engine power while in siege mode and -50% turn rate makes really a sitty duck. You only see me leave seige mode to drop omega and break free and leave a fight do a fast 20km loop to come around and return while in sige mode.

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Your numbers are suspicious but I appreciate the sentiment. In your calculations you count a -50% turn radius as the loss of 5 consoles, fair enough, but if used strategically siege mode is a tool you'd implement against larger, heavier and yes, slower ships where the loss of turn radius is a happy sacrifice for a Beam Overload with an extra punch. So sure, it's really more akin to removing the 5 consoles you don't need in favor of gaining the ability that you do.

But still, if they want to buff siege mode, I am all for it. I'd be happy with a shield buff, or a turn radius buff, or even the ability to continue firing my weapons during the javelin shot. I think your suggestion might be a bit much.

I mean my numbers are not accurate 100% but if you bring up the beta threads and all the feedback the community, posted at the start of this ship , it was excepted as gimped only because the Galaxy X was just as gimp at that time.

It just need a buff some where that make it worth while to be in siege mode, I only do it because I found a small nitch the Guramba can do good ( not great) which is sustained DPS in siege mode. Which the only capt that can use a grumba effectively is a Engineering captain, because u are the most targeted ship on the kdf side. In very rare situation u get to fly with another grumba and Ive only flown with another grumba that was pretty good enough to 2 x javelin people.

I give u hint how to make a better ship out of your current Guramba

Drop Beam overload for BFAW it does not share CD with javelin.
BFAw will also if timed very well a javelin will go and so willl your beams at the same time enough to take out the rest of his shields to get a javelin on bare hull.

If your fighting a someone in arena that there loosing shields do to a allies , drop APO+tact team+EPW and a javelin u will get a 25-45k hit. (very rare ) very hard to do, and only if it hits bare hull. Anything else will be a waste on a shielded opponent and just rip off facing shield and deliver a 9k hull hit if they have no Resistance buffs.

A avrge hit I get is between 12k and 18k, and will only fire on escort below 50% and cruisers below 35% but most of all they have to have facing shield down.

There is a 50% miss ratio to this javelin as well so most people who play pvp in this ship dont even use the javalin because for dps wise its not worth it a fully open up BFAW3 will do more damage in seige mode than a javelin will do, but it does but it still help for that extra burst sometime a couple sec they can get healed back to full health.

I run , 4 =2 dis/2 anti P duel beams up front and 3 single in the back

Maybe what they should do is up the over all turn rate to a bop turn rate which will give the ship a better turn rate in siege mode. Also giving the player the choice between a very agile ship and a slow turning ship.

Another thing why is a fully spec Raptor have 42k hull and I only have 40.8?

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I think the -50% turn rate is a bit excessive, a lower (30%) would be more appropriate in my opinion. My consideration for this is that the Siege Javelin does not fire immediately. Its charging plus the fact that there is a 'pause' between firing, and the death star animation. Leading to your target zooming away, getting their shield facing up, all sorts of things the Gal-X doesn't have to deal with in its "Spare Beam Overload". Also there is a bug with the Javelin that needs to be fixed, in that from time to time you'll hit a target and do 0 damage, because the game is trying to register it as physical damage instead of disruptor. I've had this happen to me a few times when a target had their shield facing down, the lance hits, and they take no damage.

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Shield Regen is ok but the Shield power boost already offers greater shield regen and resistance. The added weapons power is also rather helpful. What I would suggest is one of three things:

1) Make the Javelin more powerful. I mean you have to charge it up, be in Siege mode, Manage to hit with it (and it fires slowly), and you have no Cloak compared to the Galaxy X. It should be the more powerful weapon between those two.

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2) Make the power drain more intense BUT only have it drain power while the Javelin is charging. Once it is charged then the drain stops. This could be nasty because if you syphon off a solid amount of energy even if for a few seconds you weaken the enemy's shield resistance and regeneration, their speed of movement (making them a better target once you are charged), and the damage they are dealing to you.

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3) Make the Shield power Boost +10 to make up for the horrid Turn Rate. You could even knock 5 points off of Aux in this mode to help compensate making the ship focus harder on just tanking and firing flat out.

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I think the -50% turn rate is a bit excessive, a lower (30%) would be more appropriate in my opinion. My consideration for this is that the Siege Javelin does not fire immediately. Its charging plus the fact that there is a 'pause' between firing, and the death star animation. Leading to your target zooming away, getting their shield facing up, all sorts of things the Gal-X doesn't have to deal with in its "Spare Beam Overload". Also there is a bug with the Javelin that needs to be fixed, in that from time to time you'll hit a target and do 0 damage, because the game is trying to register it as physical damage instead of disruptor. I've had this happen to me a few times when a target had their shield facing down, the lance hits, and they take no damage.

Really?, I always took it as a miss. I never read the logs to see this. It would mean alot because 50% of the time I miss and i have accurate trait, this explains alot.

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Shield Regen is ok but the Shield power boost already offers greater shield regen and resistance. The added weapons power is also rather helpful. What I would suggest is one of three things:

1) Make the Javelin more powerful. I mean you have to charge it up, be in Siege mode, Manage to hit with it (and it fires slowly), and you have no Cloak compared to the Galaxy X. It should be the more powerful weapon between those two.

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2) Make the power drain more intense BUT only have it drain power while the Javelin is charging. Once it is charged then the drain stops. This could be nasty because if you syphon off a solid amount of energy even if for a few seconds you weaken the enemy's shield resistance and regeneration, their speed of movement (making them a better target once you are charged), and the damage they are dealing to you.

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3) Make the Shield power Boost +10 to make up for the horrid Turn Rate. You could even knock 5 points off of Aux in this mode to help compensate making the ship focus harder on just tanking and firing flat out.
1 =I agree 100%, It was started at 1/3 more powerful than the Galaxy X before the buff, Why is it now the same as the X. Really? only 3 people in the whole dam game know how to add the buffs to it, because once started the buffs u cant activate. To be plain and simple the devs should just allow javalin to fire while weapon fire, but thats to easy, so I like extra reg , goin into.
3) I think +15 shield and +10 weapon power would be great with the -50% turn rate makes me feel like I'am sieging someone , which is how I play =)

to number 2 ,Right now, the drain is very small, I use to run polarons and disruptor, when BFAW was the big thing , to drain wpn power it was never really effective against any other players system. I also had tyk rift going, drain is -1 power for every hit, even with BFAW it still wasnt fast enough to do seriouse drain against a opponent that ran at least one eps console. What ever the case drain should not be the nitch for Siege mode it dosent fit the ship well in the first place, and if u up it it become op and another nitch build.

Nitch builds arnt fun because they get boring doing the same move over and over again.

It just needs a small buff somewhere !!

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I mean my numbers are not accurate 100% but if you bring up the beta threads and all the feedback the community, posted at the start of this ship , it was excepted as gimped only because the Galaxy X was just as gimp at that time.

It just need a buff some where that make it worth while to be in siege mode, I only do it because I found a small nitch the Guramba can do good ( not great) which is sustained DPS in siege mode. Which the only capt that can use a grumba effectively is a Engineering captain, because u are the most targeted ship on the kdf side. In very rare situation u get to fly with another grumba and Ive only flown with another grumba that was pretty good enough to 2 x javelin people.

I give u hint how to make a better ship out of your current Guramba

Drop Beam overload for BFAW it does not share CD with javelin.
BFAw will also if timed very well a javelin will go and so willl your beams at the same time enough to take out the rest of his shields to get a javelin on bare hull.

If your fighting a someone in arena that there loosing shields do to a allies , drop APO+tact team+EPW and a javelin u will get a 25-45k hit. (very rare ) very hard to do, and only if it hits bare hull. Anything else will be a waste on a shielded opponent and just rip off facing shield and deliver a 9k hull hit if they have no Resistance buffs.

A avrge hit I get is between 12k and 18k, and will only fire on escort below 50% and cruisers below 35% but most of all they have to have facing shield down.

There is a 50% miss ratio to this javelin as well so most people who play pvp in this ship dont even use the javalin because for dps wise its not worth it a fully open up BFAW3 will do more damage in seige mode than a javelin will do, but it does but it still help for that extra burst sometime a couple sec they can get healed back to full health.

I run , 4 =2 dis/2 anti P duel beams up front and 3 single in the back

Maybe what they should do is up the over all turn rate to a bop turn rate which will give the ship a better turn rate in siege mode. Also giving the player the choice between a very agile ship and a slow turning ship.

Another thing why is a fully spec Raptor have 42k hull and I only have 40.8?

Hmm, interesting. I've been avoiding BFAW because I heard it was, well, not broken but there was an exploit that caused it to do massively too much single target damage. Do you know if they fixed it, I'd rather fly a sub-optimal build than be an exploiter. But on the other hand I picked up the siege destroyer originally with the intent of flying it tentacles out in siege mode as much as possible, that I've had to start flying it like a standard escort has been a disappointment.

Do you suggest a DBBx3, 1 torp launcher load up front?

Anyway, back on topic. Maybe they could find a way to adjust the siege mode so that, in addition to draining weapon energy it steals shield energy aswell. That adds to the "siege" feel and would give the kind of defensive buff you're looking for all while staying very much in theme with the ships current abilities. Ofcourse this amounts to both a defensive buff and an offensive debuff with team capability so it would be trickier to balance.

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Give it a cloak that would fix the ship totally that way it can cloak in siege mode and make up for the fact that it is very vulnerable while charging.

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Give it a cloak that would fix the ship totally that way it can cloak in siege mode and make up for the fact that it is very vulnerable while charging.

It charges by hitting people with its weapons.

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Give it a cloak that would fix the ship totally that way it can cloak in siege mode and make up for the fact that it is very vulnerable while charging.

As stated it must shoot to charge and Cloak is not the way of a Siege Engine. I do like the dual personality of this thing. The Nimble and deadly but somewhat more fragile normal mode and the big bad "I'm coming to GET YOU." Siege beast is awesome.

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This ship's siege mode is just a horrible joke in PVP

1. You can't turn while using siege mode and any smart player just moves out of your arc, that's if they don't just ignore you and laugh while your launch shot does nothing.

2. The delay between pressing the fire button an the actual lance firing and hitting someone is absurd, way to long.

3. The lance damage sucks massvely , the only way your getting a kill is if someone has nothing on them and even then torps will fire off quicker and do more damage.


Fix sugestions.

1. Siege mode should not gimp turn rate, rather make it lose -5 engines -5 aux (like MVAM modes)
2. Lance should fire off faster and do more damage in line with galaxy-x, even if you have to give siege mode a 2 minute CD.



The goomba is an otherwise solid ship, but like all KDF ships, completely inferior to its federation counterpart the fleet escort. This is due to the fact seige mode sucks and so your basically flying a fleet escort minus an engineering console.

Really i expected more from a 2000 cryptic point ship instead you get a ship thats crappier than a fleet escort which was free and costs no cryptic points.

Typical FvK imbalance and bias. Look how MVAM special turns you into a utter god with beta mode, even the other modes are decent and boost turn rate and speed. Klingon goomba special turns you into a slow moving hunk of junk.

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If you are doing tractorbeam and switch mode tractorbeam turns off, Why not make the siege mode give you 5km longer attack range with weapons and abilitys then, Because escort pvp is either about fast turning ships to get arc on your opponnts.. or maybe this siege mode would enable a longer range.

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If you are doing tractorbeam and switch mode tractorbeam turns off, Why not make the siege mode give you 5km longer attack range with weapons and abilitys then, Because escort pvp is either about fast turning ships to get arc on your opponnts.. or maybe this siege mode would enable a longer range.

This is a great Idia , if carriers can launch at 15k why not give siege mode the abilitie to fire at 15km. The only thing I see as a problem is cannons users loss of damage at long range what will they do at 15km =( .

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Well yeah range dissipation on cannons are quite bad so I guess they would be turned into some type of beam escorts, atleast a concept I don't know if it would work :)

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Even with that scenario, you could still keep a cannon escort build while moving out to snipe with your Javelin. That would make for some interesting strategies involving speed and movement buffs, coordinated repositioning, and the usual offensive buffs.

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Even with that scenario, you could still keep a cannon escort build while moving out to snipe with your Javelin. That would make for some interesting strategies involving speed and movement buffs, coordinated repositioning, and the usual offensive buffs.

Sniping with the Javelin would mean flying away to 15+ meters, and turning around while in siege mode.

The time investment would make it impossible to use when fighting solo as your enemies shields would be back up well before you got done disengaging and turning.

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-Firing the Javelin no longer forces you to exit siege mode

That patch note would work for me.

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Even with that scenario, you could still keep a cannon escort build while moving out to snipe with your Javelin. That would make for some interesting strategies involving speed and movement buffs, coordinated repositioning, and the usual offensive buffs.

I like the 15Km range but don’t forget that the javelin needs to power up thru weapon hits. So you would need to extend the range of other weapons to really make this viable and I don't see that happening.

That said the other suggestions look good:

1) Increase the turn rate while in siege mode.
2) Increase the shield regeneration rate while in siege mode.
3) Increase the damage of the javelin.
4) Allow all weapons to fire when the javelin is firing.

Here are my own suggestions.

1) Give the javelin a 30% shield penetration ability that will do direct damage to the hull.
2) Give the ship a 15% resistant buff to both energy and kinetic damage when in siege mode.
3) Remove the ridiculously long delay in firing the javelin.

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I like the 15Km range but don’t forget that the javelin needs to power up thru weapon hits. So you would need to extend the range of other weapons to really make this viable and I don't see that happening.

That said the other suggestions look good:

1) Increase the turn rate while in siege mode.
2) Increase the shield regeneration rate while in siege mode.
3) Increase the damage of the javelin.
4) Allow all weapons to fire when the javelin is firing.

Here are my own suggestions.

1) Give the javelin a 30% shield penetration ability that will do direct damage to the hull.
2) Give the ship a 15% resistant buff to both energy and kinetic damage when in siege mode.
3) Remove the ridiculously long delay in firing the javelin.

So an uber buff. While I think it needs to be looked at doing what you proposed would make it unbalanced...on that note cryptic just may do it.

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We will be significantly reducing the amount of time it takes the Guramba to charge and fire its siege weapon. Additional changes may be considered in the future once we see how that goes.

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We will be significantly reducing the amount of time it takes the Guramba to charge and fire its siege weapon. Additional changes may be considered in the future once we see how that goes.

Thats good, but the issues with its turn rate still need to be addressed, as does its lack of significant damage (I do more damage with my Guamba's Beam Overload I than with my Siege lance more often than not). Only the carrier has a worse turnrate than the Guramba in siege mode, and I have been out turned by well built carriers with the right equipment. Something defiantly needs to be done to it, to insure the big 20 dollar gun we bought is at least sometimes useful.

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We will be significantly reducing the amount of time it takes the Guramba to charge and fire its siege weapon. Additional changes may be considered in the future once we see how that goes.

Any planned counter to the Gal-X's cloak planned? I figure that would make an interesting twist in leveling the playing field. perhaps something that messes with the Gal-x's cloak.

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We will be significantly reducing the amount of time it takes the Guramba to charge and fire its siege weapon. Additional changes may be considered in the future once we see how that goes.

If the Guramba cannon is getting his timer even more reduced & is doing the same damage as the spinal lance of the Galaxy-X is see something wrong whit this picture, please line up the timers so the galaxy X has the same cool-down like the Gurumba.

Fo those who don't see whats wrong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Galaxy-X 3 minut cool-down spinal lance VS Gurumba 20 seconds siege cannon

The same amount of damage & not the same cool-down... always found that confusing, let alone unfair.

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If the Guramba cannon is getting his timer even more reduced & is doing the same damage as the spinal lance of the Galaxy-X is see something wrong whit this picture, please line up the timers so the galaxy X has the same cool-down like the Gurumba.

Fo those who don't see whats wrong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Galaxy-X 3 minut cool-down spinal lance VS Gurumba 20 seconds siege cannon

The same amount of damage & not the same cool-down... always found that confusing, let alone unfair.

I believe he means lowering the time it takes to fire from pressing the button. Not, the overall cooldown length of the weapon.

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I have both the Gal X and the Goomba, and the Gal X makes up for that by having far more survivability.

Turn rate and speed is everything for an escort. This is why siege mode sucks. I mean even science ships out turn it. Any opposing escort now has a nearly immobile squishy target, why would anyone want to go into seige mode?

At the very least, and this is all anyone ive talked to has asked for - can seige mode (as well as the varanus drones, marauder interceptors and Brel cloak) at least be an optional console similar to the MVAM and Rhode Island? This would be very nice for the short run to cut down on spam and at least give Klingons ships that are on par with the Fed versions. If you want to have fun with siege mode (even if its not great, it can be fun for laughs) you can put the console in. If you dont, you can put something in the lost eng console.

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If the Guramba cannon is getting his timer even more reduced & is doing the same damage as the spinal lance of the Galaxy-X is see something wrong whit this picture, please line up the timers so the galaxy X has the same cool-down like the Gurumba.

Fo those who don't see whats wrong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Galaxy-X 3 minut cool-down spinal lance VS Gurumba 20 seconds siege cannon

The same amount of damage & not the same cool-down... always found that confusing, let alone unfair.

Siege MODE has a 20 second cool down, the SIEGE JAVELIN has a 1 minute cool down, at least mine does. and once that cool down happens, you then need to shoot something enough to charge it.

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We will be significantly reducing the amount of time it takes the Guramba to charge and fire its siege weapon. Additional changes may be considered in the future once we see how that goes.

Nice something is possibly happening, although i believe its not enough.
Go look at the mvam movement stats and tell me how is thing even supposed to come close to matching that ship? both are 2000 cstore point escorts. 1 is full of win, the other is full of fail.

Perhaps actually balancing the ship before its released, instead of like 6+ months down the track just like the vanarus and the brel and almost every other kdf ship.

While MVAM / intrepids and most federation ships get released being awesome sauce from day 1, KDF ships get released being totally underpowered, then have to wait 6 months to be giving the slightest of buffs, while the devs wait for the cry of the federation pug majority that whines and then they nerf the ship back into being crap again (carriers anyone ?)

Yet when the players who actually care about PVP balance, post how the MVAM is overpowered vs all other escorts, in tribble feedback threads and pvp forums, nothing is done.

Blatant double standards exist when it comes to federation and klingon ships, that any PVP player that plays both factions can see. If you still are unsure what im talking about then you may read my post here (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=3709210#post3709210) which outlines some of the ship imbalances between the factions.

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Go look at the mvam movement stats and tell me how is thing even supposed to come close to matching that ship? both are 2000 cstore point escorts. 1 is full of win, the other is full of fail.

Not even that, mate. The Feds have to pay only 1200 points for their godship.

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We will be significantly reducing the amount of time it takes the Guramba to charge and fire its siege weapon. Additional changes may be considered in the future once we see how that goes.

Well, it's definitely movement in the right direction. If you want to play it safe and see where we stand after that, that's cool.

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Not even that, mate. The Feds have to pay only 1200 points for their godship.

my bad only 1200? no wonder its on the cstore best seller list. Even though most federation players fly cruisers. Pay to win much?

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We will be significantly reducing the amount of time it takes the Guramba to charge and fire its siege weapon. Additional changes may be considered in the future once we see how that goes.

Glad to hear that Heretic but in all honesty you do not need to change charge time. Most people do not know how to properly set it up is all. I can get my Jav charged in just over 1 second. I timed it so I am not joking. The firing time though is pretty killer. You generally have a small window of opportunity to get the shot off (kind of like with a Torp but a bit worse) and while its animation is cool and should be kept it needs to go faster lol.

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Glad to hear that Heretic but in all honesty you do not need to change charge time. Most people do not know how to properly set it up is all. I can get my Jav charged in just over 1 second. I timed it so I am not joking. The firing time though is pretty killer. You generally have a small window of opportunity to get the shot off (kind of like with a Torp but a bit worse) and while its animation is cool and should be kept it needs to go faster lol.

Sorry, I slipped into technical-speak there.

In internal mechanics, "charge time" is (the largest part) of the time it takes for the weapon to activate after you press the button to fire the javelin. In other words, this is aimed at reducing issues of ships escaping your arc of fire because of the turn rate debuff the ship suffers from in siege mode.

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Sorry, I slipped into technical-speak there.

In internal mechanics, "charge time" is (the largest part) of the time it takes for the weapon to activate after you press the button to fire the javelin. In other words, this is aimed at reducing issues of ships escaping your arc of fire because of the turn rate debuff the ship suffers from in siege mode.

Is anything going to be done about its damage, or the bug I've encountered with it trying to register as physical damage?

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So an uber buff. While I think it needs to be looked at doing what you proposed would make it unbalanced...on that note cryptic just may do it.

I would not call picking one out of the list an uber buff when you look at where the ship is now and what other ships like the MVAM Prom can do currently. These are just some suggestions to improve it. If only one of these things is done to offset the current gimp with the turn rate then I don’t see how it will make the ship unbalanced.

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I would not call picking one out of the list an uber buff when you look at where the ship is now and what other ships like the MVAM Prom can do currently. These are just some suggestions to improve it. If only one of these things is done to offset the current gimp with the turn rate then I don’t see how it will make the ship unbalanced.

I must have misread I though the list is all the changes it needs.

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I must have misread I though the list is all the changes it needs.

No problem... I think doing just one change would be good but not all as you said that would be a uber buff.

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Might be worth giving the Guramba another reason to be in siege mode besides the special, like a slight boost to shields or speed... something constant as opposed to a special ability with a cool-down.

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Might be worth giving the Guramba another reason to be in siege mode besides the special, like a slight boost to shields or speed... something constant as opposed to a special ability with a cool-down.

I know, I went back to the raptor because of some of the difficulties... nice ship that raptor btw...lol

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I had thought about another special ability for the Guramba to justify it, and its use in PvP. An ability that is mostly PvP only in usefulness. Basicly an ability that when triggered, prompts teamed allies with a "hit F to accept" pop up (that would cause decloak you'll see why). If accepted the teamed ally's ship would transfer their current weapon power to the Guramba (ala, EPS Power Flow Engineer Super Saiyan Ability) This would amp up the Guramba's weapon power and insta-charge the javelin. The more people who transfer, the more powerful the weapon power setting (via a +yadda yadda to energy attack power proc) allowing for a more powerful Javelin attack with more support ships.

Upside: Insta charge, Insta fire, Extra damage, Over piercing (can hit more than one target)
Downside: After firing Guramba's weapon power is drained, must re-transform and build power back up. Allies who transfered power lose weapon power and must build power back up. essentially, temporarily unable to fire.

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I had thought about another special ability for the Guramba to justify it, and its use in PvP. An ability that is mostly PvP only in usefulness. Basicly an ability that when triggered, prompts teamed allies with a "hit F to accept" pop up (that would cause decloak you'll see why). If accepted the teamed ally's ship would transfer their current weapon power to the Guramba (ala, EPS Power Flow Engineer Super Saiyan Ability) This would amp up the Guramba's weapon power and insta-charge the javelin. The more people who transfer, the more powerful the weapon power setting (via a +yadda yadda to energy attack power proc) allowing for a more powerful Javelin attack with more support ships.

Upside: Insta charge, Insta fire, Extra damage, Over piercing (can hit more than one target)
Downside: After firing Guramba's weapon power is drained, must re-transform and build power back up. Allies who transfered power lose weapon power and must build power back up. essentially, temporarily unable to fire.

I really like that Idea, only problem i could see with it would be getting others to help u charge the javelin.