Bellerophon refit/skin

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Was very happy to be able to get this on the F2P test server today.

Love the nacelles, the blue bussard collectors. Love the new primary hull, the pylons with the tail fins.
Love the shinny hull texture.
I'm definitely getting this when it comes to holodeck.
BUT, then I looked at the underside of the saucer. And I see the exact same underside of the Intrepid's saucer.
That particular part's been an eye sore on the Intrepid model for me for sometime.

The top of the saucer looks so great, I just wish the bottom part could have gotten a redesign too.

It doesn't spoil the model for me, but I have to admit I was a little disappointed to see it on the new skin.

Other than that, one point, great job !

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Yeah, a great skin, indeed.

With the "Intrepid" spirit, with a new desing look... really one of best skins...

Only a problem... if yo wish change the skin of the Intrepid Retrofit, to this... you will pay 106.000 energy credits!!!!

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Yeah I was shocked... 96k for me. Not a biggie got plenty but still wow...

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Agreed that it's beautiful. Very appreciative of all the care put into it.

Agree also, unfortunately, with the comment on the underside of the saucer. Could use an update.

Further suggestions:
1) She could use some running lights.
2) Registry number somewhere along the warp nacelles I think would look nice.
3) There are no phaser strips on the dorsal side of the primary hull. Shooting beams from the ship does not look polished.

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I was actually playing with all the options in the ship tailor last night. I love most everything about it, but I really wanted just the regular Intrepid pylons. UNFORTUNATELY, it's seriously bugged! If you haven't tried messing with the options, you should--it basically makes the right pylon wimpy and it falls on the starboard side by 45 degrees. Kinda funny actually.

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I don't object to there being tail fins sticking from the nacelle pylons. As the Galaxy-X set a precedent for this. While the Venture sets precedent for thinner - less obvious - impulse engines, having them out there in the Bellerophons tail fins doesn't feel right for me. They seem too exposed.

I'd place beam emitters of some kind on those fins. And incorporate the impulse engines more inboard. As Intrepid does.

I'm also of the opinion that the underside of the Bellerophon's saucer looks unfinished. It's too smooth and plain. Not even its own Aerowing outline. Why not a yacht like Sovereign's maybe?

Otherwise, the overall design is nice evolution from the Intrepid-class.

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Besides the bugged hull/pylon points (making the pylons sorely lopsided), the window selections are also buggy:

The stock ships use the "TypeX" naming convention. The Bellerophon uses "Type X". These aren't compatible.

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Besides the bugged hull/pylon points (making the pylons sorely lopsided), the window selections are also buggy:

The stock ships use the "TypeX" naming convention. The Bellerophon uses "Type X". These aren't compatible.

Agreed, this IS A PROBLEM, I believe I'm also having the same problem with the Venture's windows too, when you try to mix parts with that ship as well.

A few other things, you can't chose your fleet insignia on the Bellerophon and you can't change the NCC to the NX, (for those that have bought that option on the C Store).
I also personally think that the paint options are too much a like and need to have more choices to them.

Considering all the emphasis on the C store being soooooo important to the future of this game, and possible ship price increases, I really hope these issues get fixes SOON. This is really a quality issue that needs to be addressed.

One question tho, does anyone know when the Bellerophon's going to make it to the holodeck?
I'm really looking forward to refitting my flagship ! :D

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While the Bellerophon is an awesome looking ship I can't help but feel uncomfortable with the Blue Bussard Collectors as they seem a too radical departure from the Federation Design motif of Blue Warp Nacelles and Orange/Red Bussard Collectors, and the Blue Bussards have the exact same texture as the Deflector Dish.

I guess I prefer the classic colours for the lighting of Federation ships, funnily my only gripe with the JJ-prise is it's dull Black/Blue Bussards :p

Well as long as the Aegis and new Elite Force shields change the colour of the Bussards to their particular shade of Orange/Red I will be happy :)

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I love this forum.

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While the Bellerophon is an awesome looking ship I can't help but feel uncomfortable with the Blue Bussard Collectors as they seem a too radical departure from the Federation Design motif of Blue Warp Nacelles and Orange/Red Bussard Collectors, and the Blue Bussards have the exact same texture as the Deflector Dish.

I guess I prefer the classic colours for the lighting of Federation ships, funnily my only gripe with the JJ-prise is it's dull Black/Blue Bussards :p

Well as long as the Aegis and new Elite Force shields change the colour of the Bussards to their particular shade of Orange/Red I will be happy :)

the Ramscoops actually seem to be built into the engineering hull. You can see them peeking out of the struts for the pylons when you look at them from above.

That being said, the pylons can be canted outwards a little more. They're pretty awkward as they stand right now. Especially at warp. Their current 'impulse' configuration is what I'd love to see for warp speed, with them dropping 25-45 degrees from their current rest position for impulse flight.

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Mix and match...I dare you! It's hilarious!

I chose the Bell Saucer and Hull...with the intrepid nacelles and pylons....

and got THIS (http://www.argonia-station.com/linkimages/shipsbroke.jpg)!!!

I actually love it.. :D

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Mix and match...I dare you! It's hilarious!

I chose the Bell Saucer and Hull...with the intrepid nacelles and pylons....

and got THIS (http://www.argonia-station.com/linkimages/shipsbroke.jpg)!!!

I actually love it.. :D

Wow, wth happened there? lol Trouble parking the ship?

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Looks like there's a pretty massive bug with the Bellerophon Hull AND Pylons. The hinge on the starboard pylon seems to be fine, so long as the Bellerophon Hull is used with the Bellerophon Pylons. Use any other hull, or any other pylon, and the result is really very broken looking.

In other words, the Bellerophon hull and/or pylon has a bad angle in it, and the wrong part was rotated to compensate. These two ship components do not play well with others.

This bug is present on Holodeck. (!)

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Looks like there's a pretty massive bug with the Bellerophon Hull AND Pylons. The hinge on the starboard pylon seems to be fine, so long as the Bellerophon Hull is used with the Bellerophon Pylons. Use any other hull, or any other pylon, and the result is really very broken looking.

In other words, the Bellerophon hull and/or pylon has a bad angle in it, and the wrong part was rotated to compensate. These two ship components do not play well with others.

This bug is present on Holodeck. (!)

This was actually fixed on tribble and I'm loving the option to use other pylons.
There still is an issue with the windows getting screwed up when you mix parts, (like the Venture still has).

I hope this gets fixed soon and I hope to see the fix that made it to tribble, make it to holodeck SOON.

These really are quality issues.
Don't get me wrong, CapnLogan does a fantastic job designing these cool ships, but these bugs do affect the overall quality of the product.

Cryptic please fix these quality issues for Holodeck too

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Wow, wth happened there? lol Trouble parking the ship?

LOL! You scratched the paint!