First time, possibly terrible Vo'Quv build

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So In anticipation of getting a Vo'Quv for my Gorn Engineer, I planned out the layout of the ship for kicks. Before anyone says it, no I do not want a Karfi(sp?) carrier or any other substitute.

So, is it crap or does it have some merit?

BO Layout

Tactical:
• Tactical Team 1
• Beam Array Fire At Will 2
• Dispersal Pattern Beta 2

Engineering:
• Emergency Power to Shields 1
• Directed Energy Modulation 1
• Engineering Team 3

Science (Commander)
• Polarize Hull 1
• Hazard Emitters 2
• Scramble Sensors 2
• Photonic Shockwave 2

Science (Lt.)
• Transfer Shield Strength 1
• Science Team 2

Weapons:
Fore:
1. Disruptor Beam Array
2. Disruptor Turret
3. Disruptor Beam Array

Aft:
1. Disruptor Beam Array
2. Plasma Mine Launcher
3. Disruptor Beam Array

Tactical Consoles:
1. Disruptor Induction Coil
2. Ambiplasma Envelope

Engineering Consoles:
1. Neutronium Alloy
2. Eps Flow Regulator
3. Field Generator

Science Consoles:
1. Biofunction Monitor
2. Halon System
3. Emitter Array
4. Emitter Array

Shields:
Best Covariant I can find.

Hangars:
1. S’Kul Fighters
2. S’Kul Fighters

I am so looking forward to flying this BEAST :^D

Thanks,
Quiiliitiila

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Tactical:
• Beam Overload
• HYT 2
• FAW III

Engineering:
• EPtS I
• ENG II
• EPtS III

Science (Commander)
• HE 1
• SCI II
• TSS III
• FBP / GW III/ TR III

Science (Lt.)
• HE 1/ Photonic Off. I
• TSS II

Weapons:
Fore:
1. DBB
2. Beam Array
3. Quantum Torp

Aft:
1. Beam Array
2. Beam Array
3. Beam Array

Tactical Consoles:
1. beam-weapon enhancement console
2. beam-weapon enhancement console

Engineering Consoles:
1. 4-type weapon resistance console e.g Ablative
2. 4-type weapon resistance console e.g Tetraburnium Hull Armor
3. Field Generator

Science Consoles:
1. Biofunction Monitor
2. Halon System
3. Emitter Array
4. Partical Generator

Shields:
KHG Mk XI

Engines:
KHG Mk XI

Defelctor:
KHG Mk XI

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Engineering Consoles:
1. 4-type weapon resistance console e.g Ablative
2. 4-type weapon resistance console e.g Tetraburnium Hull Armor
3. Field Generator


Why the 4 type resist armor and not the general all around resist? Is the specific resistance better than the cover all?

Also, it seems you put a lot of faith into hitting with your forward arc. How do you compensate for the poor turn rate?

-Quiiliitiila

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Why the 4 type resist armor and not the general all around resist? Is the specific resistance better than the cover all?

Also, it seems you put a lot of faith into hitting with your forward arc. How do you compensate for the poor turn rate?

-Quiiliitiila

Sure the Neutronium Alloy can offer a maximum of +18(+36 stacked) against all energy damage, and I have had great success with it.

Consider now this.

Ablative gives you +35 across Phaser, Disruptor, Plasma, Tetryon and add then the +35 Plasma, Tetryon, Polaron, Antiproton Damage Resistance the Tetraburnium Hull Armor adds. Sure, not saying that the Neutronium Alloy option is not a good one, but if you consider it, the second option greater reduces the potential of two weapon types namely Tetryon and Plasma. In STF's plasma is the foe.

At college I use to fence. It's funny how the principles of fencing can be applied here;

Fletch: Also known as ballistra, the fencer runs or slides in toward her target and lashes out or thrusts

I am a healer, I do not rely on my forward arc to deliver any sort of killing blow. What it does do is throw the player off his game. I have completely mastered the art of defensive strategy with the carrier. I only run using energy syphons and tachyon drones. As soon as the enemy is within range of CRF and I see their procs triggering I fire Subnucleonic Beam. Beam overload + energy syphon + tachyon makes my opponent immediately go from an offensive posture to a defensive one. I do not hope to breach the shield; what I do anticipate and even plan for, is for the opponent to fire his defenses too soon. Beam Overload + HYT II (3 - 5 torps) packs a hell of a punch at 4 kms. The best analogy, is the long distance marathon runner, that starts the race at a sprint.

Feint: A common tactic, the fencer attempts to mislead his opponent as to where his blow will land

The aft section of the carrier and slow turn rate is not necessarily the carriers weakness asset. I turn it into its greatest asset. Think of the Roman Testudo ("Tortoise") - I slow my ship down, but not immediately, slowly over a period of time. My opponent relies of speed, and I know that he cannot afford to be slowed down.

Riposte: This blindingly-fast counter follows a successful parry; as the fencer sets up his next shot

By this time the opponent is preparing his next attack. This is where I prepare to engage the GRW III. Because of my reduced speed the chance of me catching him conpensating is greatly increased.

Thrust: A sudden dip of the blade sends it deep into an enemy's flesh - and usually into an organ

If and when he does find himself behind me, his probably wondering why his ship is being torn apart by my beam arrays and FBP, and why his crew are abandoning their posts

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Funny you should use the Fencing anecdote, I'm also a Fencer and I held the second place title of Connecticut for my Junior year of high school :^D

Anyway, yes. I do see and agree with you now on the multiple resist armors. I'll have to get me some of those.

And also, due to your stunningly well written response to the forward arc skepticism, I understand that as well.

How is your turn rate in the Vo'Quv? Is it really as bad as some players make it out to be? Does it really take over a minute to do a 360?

Also, what do you use in your hangar-bays? I heard that the S'Kul fighters are low on dps and kill themselves early on in the fight. Any comment?

-Quiiliitiila

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Awesome to hear and from one swordsman to another! Touche!

Turn rate is very wide. If you imagine a dart board, an escort's turn rate would be somewhere in the first three rings from the bulls eye.

The carrier the last two. The only way to compensate for this drawback is to slow to 10 - 25% engine power and hit evasive man. and then fly in a direct line to your target instead of an arc.

Actually, that's what enables you to fire the forward arc more times than you would imagine possible. It's only when you are actively targeted that you stragegy MUST turn to defense, and you can't run, so ...

The other noteworthy maneuver is to dip the carrier down at 25 - 35 degree arc and fly downwards. Why not up? Because everyone else is going up and you want to lure the opponent into your staging area. All the time he is following you down, his scoring a fraction of the hits you are inflected with 360 degree beam arrays. (Assuming he is running cannons. In my experience, escorts cannot resist.). Recently I took down two escorts that pack-hunted me this way in C-and-H. Three times. By the third time they were crying "Fowl!"

The most potent realisation of the effectiveness of the carrier lies not in its potential to cause damage, but its certainty to misdirect and delay.

All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War

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You certainly are a wealth of information and UBER quotes.

How about Hangar bays? What in you opinion are some of the most useful? The least?

-Quiiliitiila

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Also, what do you use in your hangar-bays? I heard that the S'Kul fighters are low on dps and kill themselves early on in the fight. Any comment?

-Quiiliitiila

Energy Syphons and Tachyon drones - give 'em a try and truly prepare to laugh with wild abandon! It turns the most potent, lethal killing machine, even the ELITE Borg Cube in a miniscule-pink-pellet-paintgun, guareeteed to cause severe deflation of the most stoic heart :)

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PS. Note to Cryptic: I think that the 1500 Orion dancers sent by the Orion Syndicate are being used to pilot our BOP. It is grave injustice! Why do they insist in sniffing my tail? :eek:

But on a serious note: My effectiveness table 101:

I run Syphon drones + Tachyon drones when I have a "Battleship" class vessel on my hands, e.g Borg Cubes

I run fighters when I need crowd control. Great in KA and Infected. Maybe a few of you have seen me around? Qeng's the name :)

There is no worst :), only wrong-for-assignment!


If you want the carrier to have a scientific-centific support role then run the Energy Syphon drones and the Tachyons.

If you are wanting to run an engineering slant, then the hull repair drones work great in keeping-you-alive-to-be-able-to-keep-your-team-alive.

If you are wanting to use the element of surprise, with a hint of the power of tactical abilities - then use the BOP's for their stealth attacks and cannon fire. Though on a personal note, this is hampered by the propensity of the Orion dancers to want to throw flowers at the enemy or practice cloaking in the middle of battle!

If you are wanting to be pure offensive, then the Skull fighers represent that "third" cannon so to speak, similar to the Assault Cruiser the Feds have, in my opinion.

If you are wanting to run a defensive/ offensive strategic resource allocation role then the std Klingon fighters are impressive for supporting someone under attack.


Tip: You cannot engage Impulse power if one of your fleet commands is active, nor can you slot a different ship assignment. To slot a new ship-class disengage combat, deactivate commands and wait +-10 secs. Then slot the new assignment.

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Nice list, very helpful.

Where could I get the repair shuttles? Are they sold from a vendor or do I need to drop more money than I have on the exchange for them? I already know that's the case for the S'kul fighters, and I know that the energy siphon pods are only from a c-store item. How about the Tachyon drones? Where do they come from?

Problem with me is I really like the idea of the repair shuttles and Tachyon drones, however I'd also like some offensive launchables...

Right off the bat the one that would most likely suit my style of play is the standard To'Duj fighter, having a mix of offensive and defensive sounds perfect. I like to tank and deal some damage in a fight... at least enough to help out my team.

What is the max limit on each of the listed launchables? I've been looking on the Wiki, but sadly it is incomplete and outdated.

-Quiiliitiila

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The repair drones can be picked up from the Qo'noS shipyard I believe, though please don't quote me on that. I had them long before F2P so not sure if they are even still in existence :eek:

The Energy Syphons are all at the shipward my friend!!! Go and see :)

The Tachyon drones are from one of the C-Store ships the "Corsair". Damn! I wish I was that rank to fly that beauty!

I immediately purchased the ship, without a doubt, just for the console after seeing its enjoyment in Kerrat.

No its not OP nor P2W, but a science officer with the right build can really maximise its potential. Actually, now with the new skill tree, come to think about it, any class can enjoy it!

Launchables: They were reduced from X3 to X2. The Tachyon drones can only launch X1 wave, but well worth it. The Kar'fi frigates (only Kar'fi Carrier) can have a maximum of 4 ships deployed.

This will give you all the details you need to know (http://www.startrekonline.com/node/2699)

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Do they come from this guy (http://www.stowiki.org/Gurkan)?

The list of ships he sell's seems impressive, it may be wrong or outdated. Plus the prices seem low... If this info is correct, I'd get one of each!

Also, I don't know if you're able to answer, but what is the max deployed of the listed launchables? Specifically the To'Duj fighters and the Repair drones.

But if you know them all that'd be great.

-Quiiliitiila

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Ok, just saw your edit. Nice find. I'll have to pick up the Corsair for next level (I'm almost captain) and fly it until I get my Vo'Quv.

Those Orion slavers sound nice, offensive and steals crew from enemies. Do you have any experience with them?

-Quiiliitiila

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Do they come from this guy (http://www.stowiki.org/Gurkan)?

The list of ships he sell's seems impressive, it may be wrong or outdated. Plus the prices seem low... If this info is correct, I'd get one of each!

Also, I don't know if you're able to answer, but what is the max deployed of the listed launchables? Specifically the To'Duj fighters and the Repair drones.

But if you know them all that'd be great.

-Quiiliitiila

I added the link for that in the previous post. Scroll down to the bottom and all will be revealed.

So glad that I could be of some help. Please look me up or send me a pm @drkfrontiers. Allways looking to make mates. (Even though, ask anyone I rant like a 2 year old ;) )

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Tried the slavers on an Engineer build and it worked pretty well, though not nearly as well as the carriers innate craft.

One last NB lesson I learnt.

When you can get the Vo'qov Carrier get it! Otherwise you will have to spend 120,000 dillithium grinding for it!

This is Hup'wl Qeng signing off. May the wind rise up to meet you, and the sun always be at your back!

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So glad that I could be of some help. Please look me up or send me a pm @drkfrontiers. Allways looking to make mates. (Even though, ask anyone I rant like a 2 year old ;) )

Thank you for everything, you have been MORE help than you can imagine!

And yes, I will look you up in game someday, we could take our carriers and rock some STFs :^D

-Quiiliitiila

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My loadout: SCI Charakter

TAC lt.cmd.: TT1/APB1/FAW3
SCI cmd.: HE1/ST2/HE3/ >GW3(mainly for STF's)< or >FBP3 (mainly in PvP)
SCI lt.: PH1/TSS2
ENG lt.: ET1/EPS2/EPW3

With this loadout i can tank a tac cube on elite alone, if none of those 300k crit dmg happens ^^

My Hangars are flexible, depending on the situation.
Wich is the main Key of succes on a carrier.

Never go for one loadout only, siphons deplete the enemy's whole energie, tachyon drones drain shilds, fighters are a real dmg ***** agains unshielded targets (each torp dealing 8k <crit up to 20k> dmg x12 figthers = over 100k dmg each 8 sec) you can buff yourself with shield repair drones, aso...
Only the BoP are a little off, since they ignoring all you commands.
Also the bug, that carrier pets cant attack neighter the transformers nor the gate in any STF are a backdrop.

But all in all, the carrier can be real nasty and fun to fly. Hell no, he is a real fun to fly^^