Reduced file streaming (on/off)

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I'm confused. In the client options -> Video, under troubleshooting settings, there is an option called:

'Reduced file streaming: Reduces streaming of data off disk by keeping it loaded into RAM. Turning this off on systems with low amounts of RAM could lead to crashes.'

When it is ON, this means that more data is kept on RAM (ie. better for higher RAM computers)?
When it is OFF, this means that more data is being streamed from HD (ie. better for lower RAM computers)?

or do i have this backwards? Why would it cause crashes on lower RAM computers when this option is turned off?

I'm just thinking it could be backwards or am i missing something?

Cheers,

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i think its the other way around. if you turn it on then its streaming from the hd, and off it keeps it in the ram, that would at least explain the reasoning regarding crashes

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i think its the other way around. if you turn it on then its streaming from the hd, and off it keeps it in the ram, that would at least explain the reasoning regarding crashes

I agree with you but it also sounds like:

File streaming = streaming files from HDD
Reduced file streaming on = reduces streaming from HDD (more on RAM)
Reduced file streaming off = no reduced streaming from HDD (less on RAM)

So which is it? LOL

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lol, yeah, the tooltip is a bit confusing cause the explanation could have been longer and more detailed about this.
but i really think its

reduced file streming on = kept in ram
and off = more streaming from the hdd

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Devs, can we get an answer on this when you get a chance... It doesn't have to be today, i know your busy but at some point that tooltip could be fixed maybe?

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lol, yeah, the tooltip is a bit confusing cause the explanation could have been longer and more detailed about this.
but i really think its

reduced file streming on = kept in ram
and off = more streaming from the hdd

So now your contradicting your first post? lol... not trying to be a pain just piecing it together.

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Devs, can we get an answer on this when you get a chance... It doesn't have to be today, i know your busy but at some point that tooltip could be fixed maybe?

I would consider this a P3 bug/trouble ticket.

Cheers,

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So now your contradicting your first post? lol... not trying to be a pain just piecing it together.

errr.. lol.. now i mixed it up myself... im getting a headache... lol

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Is there any chance of getting an official answer to this please? I've googled around and this was the closest I got to a solid answer, I'm just as confused by the backwards-sounding nature of the tool tip. I have 8GB of ram so naturally I'm eager to set it to the best possible config for my system.

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reduced file streaming is as it states:
ON: keeps most used game files in RAM to reduce load times on systems with systems with enough RAM, ie 4GB or more.
OFF: Disables loading into RAM and only loads the files in need off the disk for systems with low RAM.

I have 4GB on my system but i keep it off.

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Um...was it really necessary to zombie a 2 year old thread? Just saying...

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I believe it's more forum-friendly to post in a thread that directly pertains to a question rather than posting another identical thread.

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ok this is a perofrmance optoin, on older computers that have less then the required amount of ram. if this option is turned off it will not stream the data from the hard disk as needed, insted it will load the entire block of data into the ram (random access memory) this inturn causes more of the operating system controle to be forced into the page file, inturn slowing down the system to the point where then system hangs, then you have a crash. even on systems with high ammounts of ram it would be advisable to leave this on. as it helps the game perform better.

10+ years PC tech:)

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ok this is a perofrmance optoin, on older computers that have less then the required amount of ram. if this option is turned off it will not stream the data from the hard disk as needed, insted it will load the entire block of data into the ram (random access memory) this inturn causes more of the operating system controle to be forced into the page file, inturn slowing down the system to the point where then system hangs, then you have a crash. even on systems with high ammounts of ram it would be advisable to leave this on. as it helps the game perform better.

10+ years PC tech:)

This is the opposite of what the blue guy on the previous page said...

So I take it that everyone is still thoroughly confused about this issue.

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While I see what you're getting at, wouldn't 'reduced file streaming' mean that it loads more into ram? So turning it On should cause the game to read from the hard drive less, which would be a bad thing for a computer with low memory. And the warning about low memory computers being prone to crashes when it's Off almost directly contradicts what the setting description implies. That is where the confusion stems I believe.

Appreciate the replies though, looks like leaving it on would be beneficial, especially for an 8gb ram system, if it's even a 64bit application that is.

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While I see what you're getting at, wouldn't 'reduced file streaming' mean that it loads more into ram? So turning it On should cause the game to read from the hard drive less, which would be a bad thing for a computer with low memory. And the warning about low memory computers being prone to crashes when it's Off almost directly contradicts what the setting description implies. That is where the confusion stems I believe.

Appreciate the reply though

Yeah.. that's how I read it too.... I think we and the blue guy are right.

AND BTW... I agree with you about reopening a dead thread... People have ALWAYS *****ed about multiple threads..... but NOW some (increasingly more I've noticed recently) are *****ing about reopening threads??!!?.... Ye cannae win can you? ;)

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Yeah you can bet someone would have told me to use the search function if I had, lol.

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Yeah you can bet someone would have told me to use the search function if I had, lol.

Exactly......

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Reason why people complain, though, is because necroing a dead thread is techincally against forum rules:

Excerpt from the PWE Community Rules and Policies to illustrate:

You may not create posts which contain:
Excessive communications of the same phrase, similar phrases, or gibberish.
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Posts and/or private messages that, in any manner whether directly or indirectly, contain links to threads from other forums in the PWE network may be subject to an infraction. (Cross Linking)
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As this is an English-speaking community, all postings must be in English, so that they can be well received and properly monitored. Posting in other languages is not allowed, except in Forums designated specifically as non-English forums.

Now, while I may not be a moderator, I'm sure one will likely back me up on that.

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Reason why people complain, though, is because necroing a dead thread is techincally against forum rules:

Excerpt from the PWE Community Rules and Policies to illustrate:

You may not create posts which contain:
Excessive communications of the same phrase, similar phrases, or gibberish.
Numbering of a thread, IBTL, TLDR, etc.
Bumping threads.
Creation of “First!” posts.
Posting of off-topic comments, including but not limited to comments or discussions of a religious, or political nature.
Posts and/or private messages that, in any manner whether directly or indirectly, contain links to threads from other forums in the PWE network may be subject to an infraction. (Cross Linking)
Advertisements that have not been authorized by PWE.
Posting to an old thread which has not been posted to in 30 days or more.
Creating Duplicate Threads (A Duplicate Thread is defined as a thread which discusses the same topic as another thread, which has had a new post within the last 30 days.)
As this is an English-speaking community, all postings must be in English, so that they can be well received and properly monitored. Posting in other languages is not allowed, except in Forums designated specifically as non-English forums.

Now, while I may not be a moderator, I'm sure one will likely back me up on that.

This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies (http://forums.startrekonline.com/announcement.php?a=8). ~Alecto

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Um...was it really necessary to zombie a 2 year old thread? Just saying...

I've never understand this, what do people have against old threads? Who cares how old it is, it is still useful to some. I remember a while back I needed some info for a issue I was having with NWN PRC and I found a thread that someone had replied in on my exact issue but when I clicked to read it, the moderator had taken it down because of some dumb rule about necroing threads.. 3 hours later I finely fixed it myself...

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This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies (http://forums.startrekonline.com/announcement.php?a=8). ~Alecto

A responsible poster is always mindful of forum rules, regardless of whose job it is to actually enforce them. Regardless of whose job it is to ultimately enforce the rules, it is the responsibility of all posters to remember them. One such rule is against posting in a thread more than 30 days old. Ergo, my comment.

Point is: just because it's quoted by someone who isn't a mod doesn't invalidate the rule. Whether the mods decide to enforce said rule is on them, at their discretion. But it's still in the rules, and the responsibilty to know and follow those rules is on each and every poster of the forums.

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A responsible poster is always mindful of forum rules, regardless of whose job it is to actually enforce them. Regardless of whose job it is to ultimately enforce the rules, it is the responsibility of all posters to remember them. One such rule is against posting in a thread more than 30 days old. Ergo, my comment.

Point is: just because it's quoted by someone who isn't a mod doesn't invalidate the rule. Whether the mods decide to enforce said rule is on them, at their discretion. But it's still in the rules, and the responsibilty to know and follow those rules is on each and every poster of the forums.

This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies (http://forums.startrekonline.com/announcement.php?a=8). ~Alecto

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This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies (http://forums.startrekonline.com/announcement.php?a=8). ~Alecto

That's your opinion, and by all means, you're welcome to it--but it's your opinion. All I've done is state a black and white fact and provided reference to back up said fact. That it comes from me, a moderator, an adminstator, or Joe Forum Poster makes it no less true.

I still stand by my point that necroposting is against forum rules...whether anyone disagrees or feels it should be "left to the moderators" well...they're entitled to their points.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Anyway, to prevent further derailment of this thread, I simply rest my case here without further comment.

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[Silently he unholsters the [Zombie Control Sniper Rifle of Epicosity Mk XIV], shoots and vaporizes this Zombie thread!]

This thread was raised from the dead (after no posts for 30 days or more) and it had to be put down.

Please remember to check the dates of threads; and if you find an old thread raised from the dead just report it and avoid posting in it.

Lastly remember that you're more than welcome to start a new thread on the topic! :)
Cheers,
Alecto