STO vs WOW

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This game has alot of potential
give it time to improve , its still in its infant stage
we cant compare STO with WOW, wow has been around for 5 years now and they had time to get the bugs out , and fill it with content

the planned content for STO looks very good

im gonna give STO my full attention, i even suspended my WOW account for STO

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Yep. You're comparing apples to oranges. They are both fruit, but they are different in many ways.

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That's nice ...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhN6v7E5Yhk

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You can't compare the two, no matter how badly everyone wants to.

WoW, despite the fact that it has a community of 14 year old kids with severe head trauma and ADHD, has its strong points. The game, is GOOD.

But STO isn't WoW. It isn't "like" WoW, and any compare points would be more opinion than fact - or slanted because WoW has had that 5 year run and has ironed out a lot of bumps that STO hasn't even HIT yet.

So stop trying to compare STO to other games, and enjoy it for what it is: a game unto itself.


-Coyote

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WoW is a bunch of ****, if you like it then go play that instead. I think I hear your mommy calling..

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STO vs WoW, by category

Development
STO is almost 19 hours into the release.
WOW is approximately 5 years and 2 months into the release.

Gameplay
Both are games that fall under the MMO genre.
Both follow some of the more common RPG paradigms in some way (skill development, currency, equipment, etc.)

Story
Both derive from well-developed fictional settings with a large fanbase.

Title Abbreviation
Both contain a single -O.
WoW contains two -W's, the number of -S's and -T's STO has combined.


Testing shows further comparisons increasingly subjective or otherwise meaningless.

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Wow blows, STO owns nuff said

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This game has alot of potential
give it time to improve , its still in its infant stage
we cant compare STO with WOW, wow has been around for 5 years now and they had time to get the bugs out , and fill it with content

the planned content for STO looks very good

im gonna give STO my full attention, i even suspended my WOW account for STO


It's actually very easy to compare these two games.

STO is the bigger brand, but the smaller physical game at launch.

WoW was the lesser known brand, but the larger physical game at launch.

While the aspect of these game arcs are different, they are fundamentally the same. Go here, talk to that, kill this, rest for that, buy this, sell that.

And while that last part is not bad, there is no doubt that it was more fun to explore WoW at launch, than it is to explore STO. Which, actually you can't explore unless you have the rank to do so. WoW had this too, but only for the actual dungeons.


And you said you couldn't really compare them :P

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STO has more instances than wow has 5 years after launch!

wait what?

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Totally agree this one is not even close to a WOW comparison yet. I suspended my WOW account about 4 months ago and picked up LOTRO. Which I absolutely love to play with good lore. But it will be my side game now with STO out I want to give it alot of attention. But I will keep LOTRO for my dwarf elf fix hahaha. I am really excited to see where this one goes. For a game that had trouble finding someone to make it it sure has come out of the box nicely.

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WoW is a much better game. I'm willing to bet that you never get to throw a Mohawk Grenade at any Borg invading SB 24 or this coming Halloween stick a pumpkin on the head of a Klingon. I think that sucks.

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WoW is a much better game. I'm willing to bet that you never get to throw a Mohawk Grenade at any Borg invading SB 24 or this coming Halloween stick a pumpkin on the head of a Klingon. I think that sucks.

Maybe your saucer section will turn into a pumpkin instead.

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Things I hate about WoW:

It does not have Space ships.

It does not have space age armor or weapons.

It does not have Klingons or "Insert any alien race found in this game".

It happens on just one planet (how lame).

It does not have the same storyline or background as STO.


Things I hate about STO:

It does not have mounted animals like horses or "Insert and mount or Epic mount found in WoW"

It does not have medieval weapons and armor.

It does not have Blood Elves or "Insert any race indiginous to the WoW world"

It happens on a whole bunch of planets (how am I supposed to keep track of all that).

It does not have the same storyline or backround as WoW.


Yes I am being a smartass and no I dont need your permission to be one. Both games have thier good and bad points. These are called preferences. Comparisons are not possible because they are worlds apart. You would be better off starting a topic about a battle between the Lich King and a Sovereign Class ship than this arguement.

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you can make a blood elf though :P

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It does not have Klingons or "Insert any alien race found in this game".



STO doesn't really have Klingons either... Zing... :(

STO and WoW are very different. But to the people that say "WoW has been out for 5 years, give it time!" that is also wrong.

Cryptic should have looked and WoW, and see what has worked and what hasn't worked in the last 5 years. Cryptic does not have the luxury to take 5 years to polish the game into a state of WoW-polish (I cannot find a better term). The programmers at Cryptic have eyes, and they can easily pay $15 dollars, play WoW, and see that's good and bad about it, and implement it into their game. If they did not, they are in for a lot if pain.

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STO by far, we have lazors and borgs.

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wonders why a new game comes out everyone has to compare, just like when CO came out.. like above these games new and untried as opposed to the older games

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I don't think that's fair to WoW, comparing it to a game that's actually fun, that is.

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Plase deleate this thread... Topics like this are one the reasons, that players from other mmo's are trying to spam around here and try to displace people new to this game.

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STO doesn't really have Klingons either... Zing... :(

STO and WoW are very different. But to the people that say "WoW has been out for 5 years, give it time!" that is also wrong.

Cryptic should have looked and WoW, and see what has worked and what hasn't worked in the last 5 years. Cryptic does not have the luxury to take 5 years to polish the game into a state of WoW-polish (I cannot find a better term). The programmers at Cryptic have eyes, and they can easily pay $15 dollars, play WoW, and see that's good and bad about it, and implement it into their game. If they did not, they are in for a lot if pain.

raximillian your kidding right? look at wow and copy it? i used to play SWG back before it became an amatuer WOW knock off. sure it had a mountain of bugs but at least pre CU and CU were original. why does every MMO (with a few exceptions) have to be like WoW? sure look at wow's business practices sure, great idea but please for the love of god dont advocate copying WoW.

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Why do people feel it necessary to clutter up these forums with the multitude of WOW > STO or vice versa threads. WOW is a fantasy game with Orcs, Night Elfs and such - It is an apple. STO is a Sci-Fi mmo with Humans, Vulcans, Klingons and such it is an ORANGE.

Some people like apples and some people like oranges and some like grapes (some other game) so this thread is useless for anything except trolling and a waste of forum resources.

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The game is waaaay too young to make a decent comparison, and it's different in ways that can't really be compared.

I do wish a few things were a bit more WoW-like, though. There are a few places where comparisons might make sense.

Usually in WoW, drops include currency, and it's pretty obvious what you should sell. It's pretty easy to maintain a profit without a lot of work. In this game I spend a lot of time figuring out what to sell, and it seems like there's no cash flow.

WoW's maps also label all of the major areas, even in cities. So you know where all of the sections are when you look at the map. There's no guessing.

WoW's map also does not put an icon for every player in the area - it only puts something on the map if it's important (like your current group or current quest(s)). A lot cleaner and easier to use.

Also, in WoW, you talk to any of the guard NPCs in a city, and they'll tell you where to go to get stuff, and mark it on the map. Very useful for a first time player, or for a player with a new alt with new professions.

And oh, yeah - WoW has a togglable walk. Hit a key, I start walking. Hit it again, I stop walking. Much better than holding down a key the whole time.

That said - there's a whole lot that can't be compared. Space combat simply can't be compared to anything in WoW, because there's frankly no equivalent and it wouldn't make sense in WoW.

Even ground combat is different: In Star Trek, you can create items like turrets, mines and shields. That's a lot of fun :). WoW has nothing like that, but it does have a lot of magic stuff that's also a lot of fun.

So they're both different, but some stuff can be learned.

IMO the biggest issue wuth STO as it stands right now is that the pacing feels too slow during battles. Battles need to be faster paced.

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And oh, yeah - WoW has a togglable walk. Hit a key, I start walking. Hit it again, I stop walking. Much better than holding down a key the whole time.



You mean like the R key in STO?

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I really like what ive seen in STO when its working

and still like and play WOW

strange how we find the need to put one thing
over another....cant we just say they are both
what they are and be happen?

oh and last time I checked not everyone playing
WOW is under the age of 16 and ADHD

people do play horde ya know ;)

just TRY and be happy

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Really STO to WOW just a troll post.

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I don't think that I want to risk connecting to a Wow Server anymore. The past couple of weeks, lots of people are getting hacked... stolen accounts, deleted characters and stolen gold. It happened to me, even while running virus, spyware and keylogger detection software. Took 10 days to get things restored and who ever did it got me banned for gold spamming while they had access. Now I have to use an authenticator but with no evidence of a hacker in my system it makes one wonder. Why take the risk?

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This game has alot of potential
give it time to improve , its still in its infant stage
we cant compare STO with WOW, wow has been around for 5 years now and they had time to get the bugs out , and fill it with content

the planned content for STO looks very good

im gonna give STO my full attention, i even suspended my WOW account for STO

STO = Mostly older ST fans.


WOW = A whole lot of whingy whiney 12 year olds who think the world revolves around them.

That's the only comparison I can draw, it's also the reason I enjoy STO much more than WOW.

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You mean like the R key in STO?

lol, yes...and shift+R for Full Impulse.

Not even able to read the key assignment, I'm sure they cry to find starbase 24 for 1 hour...

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just TRY and be happy

I'm very happy :). I just wanna see things improved a bit, that's all.

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Things I hate about WoW:

It does not have Space ships.

It does not have space age armor or weapons.

It does not have Klingons or "Insert any alien race found in this game".

It happens on just one planet (how lame).

It does not have the same storyline or background as STO.


You are incorrect. WoW does have space ships. WoW does have space armor. WoW does not happen on just one planet. And WoW's story line is about 10,000+ years long.

Space ships. Ever see Exodar or that mini-town in the middle of Nagrand?

Space armor. Ever see the Pally T5 armor? lol Purple power ranger!

One planet? Azeroth and Outlands. 1+1=2 in my universe.

Storyline. "for 10 thousand years... you are not prepared". That's a hint.

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I don't think that I want to risk connecting to a Wow Server anymore. The past couple of weeks, lots of people are getting hacked... stolen accounts, deleted characters and stolen gold. It happened to me, even while running virus, spyware and keylogger detection software. Took 10 days to get things restored and who ever did it got me banned for gold spamming while they had access. Now I have to use an authenticator but with no evidence of a hacker in my system it makes one wonder. Why take the risk?

Did you happen to reply to an email warning that you're about to be banned (or have been banned), and that you have to give Blizzard your info?

If so, that was your first mistake. Blizzard will not ask for your info.

There are a huge number of phishing scams going on.

Chances are, you weren't actually hacked. Chances are you accidentally gave info to the wrong person, and that person took that info and used it to gain access to your account.

From what I've read, the vast, vast majority of people who claim they got hacked really got phished.

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You are incorrect. WoW does have space ships. WoW does have space armor. WoW does not happen on just one planet. And WoW's story line is about 10,000+ years long.

Space ships. Ever see Exodar or that mini-town in the middle of Nagrand?

Space armor. Ever see the Pally T5 armor? lol Purple power ranger!

One planet? Azeroth and Outlands. 1+1=2 in my universe.

Storyline. "for 10 thousand years... you are not prepared". That's a hint.

LOL - If you put it that way - yeah, there's a bit of that in the WoW world. But it's not really the same. It's still largely a fantasy universe rather than a Sci-Fi universe.

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"From what I've read, the vast, vast majority of people who claim they got hacked really got phished."

Didn't happen to me. I did get some Phishing emails and immediately deleted them. Whoever was doing it was stupid enough to send it to my secondary email address (haven't used for WoW in 3 years). Nor did I go to any suspect websites....porn or WoW.

There is a lot of chatter about what is going on at several gaming website forums. The most popular theories are that it is an "inside job" or gold farming has become such a large cash opportunity that Asian organized crime has jumped in big time or a combination of the two. Is gold farming really a 1 billion dollar industry??

Add the Battle.Net change over in November as another big ?

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The WoW hacking stuff is probably better off discussed at their forums . . .

But it does appear Blizzard is very aware of the issues, as security is their top news story right now. And they're claiming it's mostly phishing.

My emails are getting pretty flooded with claims that I've been hacked or I've been shut down, etc.

None are true, though - so far, I've been logging in with no issues.

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The WoW hacking stuff is probably better off discussed at their forums . . .

But it does appear Blizzard is very aware of the issues, as security is their top news story right now. And they're claiming it's mostly phishing.

My emails are getting pretty flooded with claims that I've been hacked or I've been shut down, etc.

None are true, though - so far, I've been logging in with no issues.

Agree about where the WOW hacking discussions should but those who get critical of CS in those forums are getting banned or having their posts mysteriously disappear.

Other reason.....STO is down. The official downtime thread, last time I looked, was 260 pages long. Actually an entertaining read.