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01-30-2010, 09:57 AM
I've noticed when using mes in pve on my fed that i still get attacked by mobs. Is this a recent change?

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01-30-2010, 10:10 AM
Yep and good riddance. You wont be able to just fly through mobs now to the objective, you will have to fight some of them !!!

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01-30-2010, 10:11 AM
also no pvp for fed escorts in lower tiers :-)

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01-30-2010, 10:51 AM
the thing is that now it just doesn't work at all and there is no benifit so its not nerfed its broken, as in has no additive qualities to the gameplay. if fed isn't supposed to ever stealth then replace the ability if not fix it, probably one of the most useful leveling abilities hands down and no one can use it.

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01-30-2010, 10:53 AM
It is a bit dumb just leaving it in there not working, replace it or at least remove it, save people wasting their time with it.

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01-30-2010, 10:58 AM
Yep and good riddance. You wont be able to just fly through mobs now to the objective, you will have to fight some of them !!!

Why is that bad? If a person choses to avoid a fight while PvEing alone it has nothing to do with you.

Cryptic stated that they expect 80% of your XP will come from missions and 20% of XP will come from combat.

If a person decides to avoid combat they will also be missing out on XP. The key is, it is their choice and has nothing to do with anybody else.

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01-30-2010, 11:00 AM
It was seriously OP, glad it got nerfed.

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01-30-2010, 11:20 AM
I used MES a ton on my escort in OB, and yes it needed to be toned down a bit. But they more then toned it down. It seems to work on npcs until you get within 8k or so. However in PVP it does absolutely nothing. I had klingons see me from 18k away while I was using MES and they were not even cloaked to get a perspective bonus. Another instance I was the only of 5 feds using MES, and the klingons came in cloaked and primaried me from 10k out.

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01-30-2010, 11:41 AM
Can someone clue us newer players in... what does MES stand for?

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01-30-2010, 11:45 AM
Mask energy signature, science BO skill...

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01-30-2010, 11:45 AM
Mask Energy Signature, and I thought there was a Dev post somewhere stating that it is actually bugged and not supposed to be doing that?

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01-30-2010, 12:18 PM
I believe the dev post you are talking about was how MES was automatically deactivating 2 seconds after putting it on. That was fixed sometime today.

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01-30-2010, 01:01 PM
Mask Energy Signature, and I thought there was a Dev post somewhere stating that it is actually bugged and not supposed to be doing that?

Yep see the post to

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01-30-2010, 01:35 PM
Mask energy signature, science BO skill...

It's the closest that Feds could get to their own version of cloak ... but nerfed to oblivion due to PvP whining.

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01-30-2010, 01:37 PM
I didnt think it was anything amazing, certainly not game breaking or pvp destroying. But Klingons had to complain, you know what their like, always grumpy... :)

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01-30-2010, 01:41 PM
Ya they whinnied allot about it seemed they wanted to be the only ones who could hide behind phasers and disruptor's really .
Give it a week and they will be crying about something else they cant have or that others shouldn't have .
Funny it sounds like Emo in space combat doesn't it. please don't shoot me and if you do I'm gonna tell someone.

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01-30-2010, 01:47 PM
uhh.. it was better then klingon cloak, you keep shields up, and it's impossible to detect... you could have MES on, take a **** on my hull, and i wouldn't even detect the smell.

it was ridic-ulous. glad it was balanced.

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01-30-2010, 01:48 PM
It was seriously OP, glad it got nerfed.



It was op, it is nerfed.

Have you guys tried putting points into Starship Engineering. This pumps up mes. I can get within about 4km to an npc now. Havnt tried it in pvp. I also think the shield debuff aspect is working incorrectly but Im not sure. Also have you trained your science officer skill up to max in the skill?

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01-30-2010, 01:49 PM
I see this as a skill that should work as it did in OB but bring it up to LC or C rank thus leaving it as a science only utility....which would make the most sense.