lifetime subs..i feel sorry you did it

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Its obvious that cryptic cant get their S//T together...i feel horribly sorry for all you guys who got suckered into buying a one year or life time sub...The reason they had such a quick promo was to get as much money from you as possible before the game was sunk.....good JOB CRYPTIC

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lifetime trolls..i feel sorry you did it

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I don't why you people have to FREAK out about the game being down. Get a life. The forums are becoming quite entertaining for some reason.

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Overreact much?

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If you think the OP is freaking out, you've lived a very protected life.

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Dose that mean you're not going to play, woot!

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I hate to say it but I actually sort of agree with the OP. I personally thought the lifetime subscription was a bad idea anyway, and the ability to play as a "Borg" didn't seem all that special. I did get a 12 month subscription because I don't like the idea of only 2 slots for characters...but still I can see why people would be upset. For the lifetimers, Cryptic has your money now and they can do what they want with it, whether the game is working or not.

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Game has been up for 2, count 'em, 2 whole days, and people are moaning 'cos of a little server problem. All games have 'em at the start.

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Lol, i also just checked my account i apparently no longer have any content, lol cryptic is reallly fixing something, that and my mail is jacked up.

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Everytime the game goes down...several negative posts about the game go up. If you dont like it, dont play.

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lifetime trolls..i feel sorry you did it

look..its the POT calling the kettle black!!! lol...wow...im gonig to go out on a limb and assume u have a lifetime sub...lol...THEY GOT YOU REAL GOOD

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Its obvious that cryptic cant get their S//T together...i feel horribly sorry for all you guys who got suckered into buying a one year or life time sub...The reason they had such a quick promo was to get as much money from you as possible before the game was sunk.....good JOB CRYPTIC


You're (spelled correctly) calling us suckers? Thanks a lot. Why did you post this? To be mean spirited or out of frustration? If it's the former, then please understand that I think of it as an investment. It might be a bad one but that's my choice and I don't really need your sympathy, geeze it's only a couple hunded bucks. If it's the latter then I'm frustrated also, but I'll get over it.

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Game has been up for 2, count 'em, 2 whole days, and people are moaning 'cos of a little server problem. All games have 'em at the start.

ahh...SIGH...so true...its been only two days and...SIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this has been happening EVERYDAY , sometimes three TIMES a day...SINCE the first day of Beta...lol....get use to it...cuase it HASNT gotten better

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I won't feel bad for you for being a forum troll and you don't feel bad for me for spending my $$$ on a Lifetime Sub. So, do we have a deal?

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You're (spelled correctly) calling us suckers? Thanks a lot. Why did you post this? To be mean spirited or out of frustration? If it's the former, then please understand that I think of it as an investment. It might be a bad one but that's my choice and I don't really need your sympathy, geeze it's only a couple hunded bucks. If it's the latter then I'm frustrated also, but I'll get over it.

Try reading the OP again...just cause u got suckered doesnt MAKE u a sucker...BUT..if the shoe fits....."

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Everytime the game goes down...several negative posts about the game go up. If you dont like it, dont play.

Here Here!!! Then there will less demand on the servers, and then they will not have to flush out all the tribbles as often!

They have not employeed Scotty, and so when they say you have 4 hours to reboot, the guy takes the entire 4 hours. Now if it were Scotty he would say "I need frou hours, Captain", and then 10 mins later... "she is working again, but I do not know for how long"...

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ahh...SIGH...so true...its been only two days and...SIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this has been happening EVERYDAY , sometimes three TIMES a day...SINCE the first day of Beta...lol....get use to it...cuase it HASNT gotten better

Judging from the spelling, punctuation and use of caps, i'd say you're about 12 years old. Mmmmm, delicious Troll.

And no, I didn't buy a lifetime subscription, as I felt a character wasn't worth £200.

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I wonder how many more whine threads we will see by people that has never ever played in other MMOs at launch.

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So because Cryptic has money from Lifers that means they won't keep enhancing the game? LOL, that makes lot's of sense...Anyways, why do you people care about how other people spend their own money? If you can't afford or don't think it's worth it, than don't buy it. If you don't like the game, don't play it and let people decide for themselves what is best for them. ;)

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Everytime the game goes down...several negative posts about the game go up. If you dont like it, dont play.

It's not enough for them to just deal with it or quit. They are like a baby who's formula bottle nipple has slipped out of thier mouths..they instantly start bawling until it's put back in.

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I know, it's a disaster when the forums go down on the head start before the actual game even starts. I feel so bad for being jipped on early pre-release game time that thousands of people never would have done anyway.

And opening weekend! It's an abomination! The servers are going down! It's unheard of! No MMO has EVER had issues on opening weekend! We are all going to die without our digital IV!

Chill out.

Walk outside.

Take a break.

Enjoy the game as it stabilizes.

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you think it's bad now.... wait for tuesday. The server will most likely just fry from the looks of what is happening already.

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I happily bought a life time sub, and i knew what to expect coming into this. every mmo has it's growing pains. I honestly believe these folks didn't understand just how many people want a star trek game and are reeling from the sheer numbers.

What i find funny is all the haters and doomsayers.

I'm not going to blindly defend the game it does have it's issues but this is one of the best games i have played in a very long time.

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So far this launch as been about average for a large MMO.

I bought my lifetime sub today.

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Its obvious that cryptic cant get their S//T together...i feel horribly sorry for all you guys who got suckered into buying a one year or life time sub...The reason they had such a quick promo was to get as much money from you as possible before the game was sunk.....good JOB CRYPTIC

English teachers everywhere are shuddering and they don't know why.
We do.
I feel sorry for them.

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I would love to see any of the other posters here do a better job, I say hats off to the Cryptic guys and gals for doing such a splendid job and I for one was very happy to lend my support with a lifetime sub as it means they have some extra cash to get in more servers and make my gaming experience all that more enjoyable.

Again well done to the Cryptic crew and i doff my hat to you all

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Here Here!!! Then there will less demand on the servers, and then they will not have to flush out all the tribbles as often!

They have not employeed Scotty, and so when they say you have 4 hours to reboot, the guy takes the entire 4 hours. Now if it were Scotty he would say "I need frou hours, Captain", and then 10 mins later... "she is working again, but I do not know for how long"...

HAHA...thats hilarious..you DO realize the game hasnt even been released and they cant even handle the traffic...imagine on Feb 2nd. THEN what are u guys going to say "ohh....stop posting negative comments ...blah blah blah" .

Cryptic is NOT some company that just came out of the blue to make their FIRST MMO....the ONLY thing that makes them look good are the constant reminders of the people who got sukered, about how MUCH they love waiting during downtimes, and how patient they are going to be. CONGRATS, ur basically giving them permission to take as long as they want, and to do it as often as possible....good job Customers...i wont put the word "paying" in front of customers...cause im sure alot of people have finally fallen off the fence and are seriously debating whether all this trash is worth buying, nevermind paying for monthly.

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What i find funny is all the haters and doomsayers.


equally funny are the trekies who worship both cryptic and sto......

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Of course it was a quick promo to get as much money as possible upfront, They're a company and as such are run like one. I don't regret buying the lifetime sub though, It's an MMO afterall and as such will always be worked on. If the game really fails hard, I doubt anyone who bought the lifetime sub or STO in general will be looking at Cryptics future games.

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the bad part about a game is in th beginning, there's a ton of critical issues to solve. Later on, the content gets updated, bugs worked out, and exploits fixed. I guess we lifetime scribers are just glass-half-full kinda people by nature.
Since I have .....forever....... to play and no wory about levling up my character in one month, I don't feel the pressure to get every last level in head start. Only thing I'm upset about are the bugs, but that's what they're working on.

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Try reading the OP again...just cause u got suckered doesnt MAKE u a sucker...BUT..if the shoe fits....."

I read it. The implication is in your response also. No need to dance around it. I don't feel like I got suckered, you think that. BTW, you never answered the question. Why did you make the OP in the first place? :-)

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I'd rather have server problems in BETA than during live. And BETA is for testing, not for fun. Also, there will be problems at launch, unexpected things will happen, and they will be fixed. Engineers and developers are not miracle workers. Patience, thoughtfulness, and common sense are all virtues, please use them.

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Just wondering... is it against some unwritten rule on this forum to criticize Cryptic and how they run the game/server?

I've seen many MMO launches and this is one of the least good ones. These downtime issues should have been adressed in beta stage. It's not like it's their first MMO, they should have been better prepared.

I'd rather have server problems in BETA than during live. And BETA is for testing, not for fun. Also, there will be problems at launch, unexpected things will happen, and they will be fixed. Engineers and developers are not miracle workers. Patience, thoughtfulness, and common sense are all virtues, please use them.

Newsflash, this IS live. It HAS launched. Just head starters can play now, the rest follows on February 2nd. Now ask yourself: If they can't handle the head starters, what do you think will happen once they open the flood gates on February 2nd?

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Well, I have a lifetime subscription and I'm feeling okay. If it's still like this in three months, then I might have a problem. Regardless, while I feel the game could be (and should be) a lot better than this, I think they did a pretty good job on what is in the game (bugs aside) and I am sure I'll still care to play two years from now... and I'm pretty sure the game will still be here then, so a lifetime sub made sense.

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equally funny are the trekies who worship both cryptic and sto......

Even more amusing are those that assume that everyone who likes the game is a trekkie or a Cryptic worshipper. We're not all sheep little boy.

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Everytime the game goes down...several negative posts about the game go up. If you dont like it, dont play.

I keep saying this over and over......I am looking for entertaining posts but the whiners are pathetic.

Its simple...you don't like whats happening, quit playing. Cancel your sub , log off, quit playing.

If you are really really displease with will show your displeasure more than just whining.

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Just wondering... is it against some unwritten rule on this forum to criticize Cryptic and how they run the game/server?

I've seen many MMO launches and this is one of the least good ones. These downtime issues should have been adressed in beta stage. It's not like it's their first MMO, they should have been better prepared.

major problem I saw was addressing server loads in beta, typically an issue taken care of in alpha.

it's quite obvious the repercussions doing this cryptic's way has on the game at launch.....

the HS launch didn't even last more than 20min before it went down the first time, and hasn't really improved at all......

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I expected so much more from an experienced developer but so far I can only really describe my feelings about this game as monumentally let-down. As a European resident it isn't helped that everything is geared towards the US market and the rest of the world is given the finger while expected to pay more (taxes and the like) while receiving a sub standard service in return. I understand economics and the fact that the US is the main market but some effort to address things beyond the front door would help.

Server configration is dire, 1 cluster in CA? Come on! Using Del Taco for special give-away codes? Most of the world and a fair amount of the States don't have Del Taco. No communication from staff and a total fixation on milking the cash cow and doing sweet FA to fix the issues at hand. GET A NEW SERVER SET UP ! It isn't rocket science and everyone in the Cryptic community is being affected by terrible server management at the moment.

If this doesn't change then the end of this game will come sooner rather than later. Take Tabula Rasa, good concept and heavily instanced died out because of the same issues here except the dev team actually did something instead of watching their single server crash multiple times daily. Doesn't bode well for the actual launch.

Flaming commence, I paid for this product and am entitled to feel let down by and vent my criticisms at Cryptic.

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the bad part about a game is in th beginning, there's a ton of critical issues to solve. Later on, the content gets updated, bugs worked out, and exploits fixed. I guess we lifetime scribers are just glass-half-full kinda people by nature.
Since I have .....forever....... to play and no wory about levling up my character in one month, I don't feel the pressure to get every last level in head start. Only thing I'm upset about are the bugs, but that's what they're working on.

Goodluck...these bugs have been here SINCE jan 12...and they STILL cant fix it. Glass half full??? lol u joking? it was half full halfway through the Beta....then the glass BROKE during beta when everyone realized this is Trending the same way as CoH and CO....a slow and PAINFUL death, with lil fixes, no atten to the public and last but NOT least, failure overall

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I do kinda have to agree with the OP, and I am one of the life-timers so it's well within my rights to complain. Sine head start, of the 5 times I have started the client up to play, THREE of them greeted me with a server down message. That was forgivable during beta, but we are PAYING for this now. If the game wasn't ready, they should have extended the beta and worked out the kinks.

They have two days before the flood of Wal-Mart buyers who have no forgiveness or patience show up, and the reputation of the game is ruined forever. I guess they weren't around on launch day for SWG....

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HAHA...thats hilarious..you DO realize the game hasnt even been released and they cant even handle the traffic...imagine on Feb 2nd. THEN what are u guys going to say "ohh....stop posting negative comments ...blah blah blah" .

Cryptic is NOT some company that just came out of the blue to make their FIRST MMO....the ONLY thing that makes them look good are the constant reminders of the people who got sukered, about how MUCH they love waiting during downtimes, and how patient they are going to be. CONGRATS, ur basically giving them permission to take as long as they want, and to do it as often as possible....good job Customers...i wont put the word "paying" in front of customers...cause im sure alot of people have finally fallen off the fence and are seriously debating whether all this trash is worth buying, nevermind paying for monthly.

I challenge you to write one post without several words in capslock.

Also, you clearly hate the game, so stop wasting our time, stop QQ'ing, and GTFO. You are currently only succeeding in acting like a spoiled little boy.

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I have been playing for 2 weeks now and have been through all the down times, I still do not regret buying the life time sub, but a am glad that some random person in cyberspace cares so much for me and how I spend my money that I work hard to earn. So thank you for you concern it is so touching. I would also like to thank Cryptic without these down times I wouldn't see my kids.

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I bought a lifetime sub. I have 4 lifetime subs to LOTRO and I've never regretted one cent of the money I spent - in fact, because I haven't paid a cent in monthly fees to that game, I can afford to play this one. Were I paying monthly, here, I *would* be upset about downtime - it's wasting the cash I paid this month. But I have from now until the servers go dark, to play this game. A few hours downtime before the official launch is meaningless. Even after launch...what do I care, I'll go play LOTRO until the servers are back up. I've lost nothing to the downtime.

You have. Poor monthly paying suckers. Think of me, in 17 months, when I'm playing for free, and you're into Cryptic for $255.00.

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the bad part about a game is in th beginning, there's a ton of critical issues to solve. Later on, the content gets updated, bugs worked out, and exploits fixed. I guess we lifetime scribers are just glass-half-full kinda people by nature.
Since I have .....forever....... to play and no wory about levling up my character in one month, I don't feel the pressure to get every last level in head start. Only thing I'm upset about are the bugs, but that's what they're working on.

I could not agree more with you there. To hell with all these whiners who want to powerlevel their toons to 50 and miss all the fun content. I have no problem with the server being down as long as the stuff is being fixed and worked on. And its still too entirely too early to say "its not being fixed"

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If you think the OP is freaking out, you've lived a very protected life.

If you think life runs smoothly, and that this stuff is easy, then YOU have lived a very protected, and ignorant, life.

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I expected so much more from an experienced developer but so far I can only really describe my feelings about this game as monumentally let-down. As a European resident it isn't helped that everything is geared towards the US market and the rest of the world is given the finger while expected to pay more (taxes and the like) while receiving a sub standard service in return. I understand economics and the fact that the US is the main market but some effort to address things beyond the front door would help.

Server configration is dire, 1 cluster in CA? Come on! Using Del Taco for special give-away codes? Most of the world and a fair amount of the States don't have Del Taco. No communication from staff and a total fixation on milking the cash cow and doing sweet FA to fix the issues at hand. GET A NEW SERVER SET UP ! It isn't rocket science and everyone in the Cryptic community is being affected by terrible server management at the moment.

If this doesn't change then the end of this game will come sooner rather than later. Take Tabula Rasa, good concept and heavily instanced died out because of the same issues here except the dev team actually did something instead of watching their single server crash multiple times daily. Doesn't bode well for the actual launch.

Flaming commence, I paid for this product and am entitled to feel let down by and vent my criticisms at Cryptic.

HOW DARE YOU HAVE UR OWN OPINION!!!...lol..thats basically what everyone says when they back up Cryptic and this MASSIVE let down...good job Sheep. TheDE..thanks for being WAY more realistic then the majority of the fans of STO

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Even more amusing are those that assume that everyone who likes the game is a trekkie or a Cryptic worshipper. We're not all sheep little boy.

even funnier is noticing that I never made that assumption, nor was it implied by my statement.

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I still remember the good ole days when Cryptic was still making City of Heroes and actually cared for their customers and fan base.

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Is it that you can't afford to get a lifetime sub, you are easily scared by technology so when it does not work you jump to the worst conclusion or is it a jealousy thing? Seems there are no good reasons to have a go at lifers.

Try to be CONstructive...

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If you think life runs smoothly, and that this stuff is easy, then YOU have lived a very protected, and ignorant, life.

Your flame fails as much as your reading comprehension skills.

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I feel sorry for those so easy to get upset :p

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Its obvious that cryptic cant get their S//T together...i feel horribly sorry for all you guys who got suckered into buying a one year or life time sub...The reason they had such a quick promo was to get as much money from you as possible before the game was sunk.....good JOB CRYPTIC

I feel sorry for you not having one - that makes us about even ;)

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I feel sorry for you not having one - that makes us about even ;)

Save me under ur friends list...if this game doesnt fail within 9 months....get back to me, and lets see who feels sorry for who

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look..its the POT calling the kettle black!!! lol...wow...im gonig to go out on a limb and assume u have a lifetime sub...lol...THEY GOT YOU REAL GOOD

You shouldn't go out on limbs too often. You don't have the rational sense to make it work.

I don't have a lifetime sub. You are the troll, I am not. So there is no black kettle or pot here.

Other than being completely wrong, your post was spot on!

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If you think life runs smoothly, and that this stuff is easy, then YOU have lived a very protected, and ignorant, life.

ahh..lol..wow, ur really blind. Did u even realize they were supposed to install NEW servers and NEVER commented on this fact halfway during beta? OMG...its that easy??? replacing ****** servers with WORKING, reliable servers??? its too bad Cryptic hasnt made OTHER MMOS , so they can get an idea of how servers work...O WAIT....they have....thanks for proving my point over and over, and over

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Game has been up for 2, count 'em, 2 whole days, and people are moaning 'cos of a little server problem. All games have 'em at the start.

Your definition of "whole day" needs some work.

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HOW DARE YOU HAVE UR OWN OPINION!!!...lol..thats basically what everyone says when they back up Cryptic and this MASSIVE let down...good job Sheep. TheDE..thanks for being WAY more realistic then the majority of the fans of STO

This thread is really making my evening. The world would be boring without little boys like you.

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Game has been up for 2, count 'em, 2 whole days, and people are moaning 'cos of a little server problem. All games have 'em at the start.

Actually this is only true to a certain extent. ZYesterday I was defending Cryptic, however now after witnessing how unstable the servers actually are I am thinking otherwise. The last MMO ive seen that launched with such terrible server instability was many years ago. Most companies these days are capable of running a damn server. Let alone keeping us informed of what is actually wrong.

Anyone who is OK with this situation obviously has a ton of free time. Unlike us who work/still in school.

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even funnier is noticing that I never made that assumption, nor was it implied by my statement.

Then I apologise. I obviously misread the statement.

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equally funny are the trekies who worship both cryptic and sto......

I'm no trekkie trekker or anyother title you care to place on me. Nor do I worship a company.

I'm just saying that compared to other launches this one has been alot better than most I have been part of.

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Your definition of "whole day" needs some work.

I live in the UK, where it has been 2 days since the server went live. I count the downtime as well. Because I am counting the time since launch.

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I said it before and I'll say it again.

I paid for lifetime. I have all the time in the world to play once things get sorted out. I'm not impatient enough to start ranting because things are broken right at this very minute.

It's not like Cryptic foresaw these problems, or even worse, are doing it on purpose.

In a few weeks time, things will be worlds more stable, and I'll have the rest of the game's life to play. I have no reason to be anything more than mildly irritated that I can't log in right nooooow.

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This thread is really making my evening. The world would be boring without little boys like you.

so what you are saying is you enjoy the company of "little boys"......
:eek:

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Its obvious that cryptic cant get their S//T together...i feel horribly sorry for all you guys who got suckered into buying a one year or life time sub...The reason they had such a quick promo was to get as much money from you as possible before the game was sunk.....good JOB CRYPTIC

by PUBA age 4 my first mmo!!!!! :p

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Don't feel sorry me. I am very glad I was able to get the subscription. I feel the beta and head start have gone relatively smooth. Much better than other MMOs I have been in at the beginning.

I feel sorry that I and my fellow players have to endure trolls! I hope you find something to take your mind off of STO and can focus your time on it.

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HAHA...thats hilarious..you DO realize the game hasnt even been released and they cant even handle the traffic...imagine on Feb 2nd. THEN what are u guys going to say "ohh....stop posting negative comments ...blah blah blah" .

Cryptic is NOT some company that just came out of the blue to make their FIRST MMO....the ONLY thing that makes them look good are the constant reminders of the people who got sukered, about how MUCH they love waiting during downtimes, and how patient they are going to be. CONGRATS, ur basically giving them permission to take as long as they want, and to do it as often as possible....good job Customers...i wont put the word "paying" in front of customers...cause im sure alot of people have finally fallen off the fence and are seriously debating whether all this trash is worth buying, nevermind paying for monthly.

"Cant even handle the traffic"? You kknow for sure that the servers were taken down because too many people were on? If you've got the inside scoop, why not enlighten us as to what they're doing to fix it right now? As to "imagine on Feb 2nd", Id say yeah, it'll probably be similar, because you don't seem to understand that NO ONE in their right mind expects a MMO to function perfectly, or even close to perfect, at launch day. If we have this same amount of trouble 3 months in, THEN I'll be worried.

Cryptic has done MMOs before, but guess what? They're progamming is different. May not even be on the same type of server, component-wise. If patience is bad, I should be given the death penalty, since I took care of an Alzheimer's patient for 10 years, by myself, in-home care.

And yes, I'm sure there's plenty of people like you, impatient, demanding, and with unrealistic expectations, that are leaving in droves. Good riddance, I say!

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Almost every mmo I've ever played has had issues like this first couple weeks to a month after launch, sometimes longer.

Game officially launches in a couple days, so 1 month out from that we are still likely to have issues. It happens...just do something else for a while.

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Game has been up for 2, count 'em, 2 whole days, and people are moaning 'cos of a little server problem. All games have 'em at the start.
WoW didn't, and it had a much larger launch than the pre-order load of this game. We have yet to scratch the surface of load issues, the retail copies from Target/Wal-Mart will likely mean 2-3 times what we have now. What happens then?

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I said it before and I'll say it again.

I paid for lifetime. I have all the time in the world to play once things get sorted out. I'm not impatient enough to start ranting because things are broken right at this very minute.

It's not like Cryptic foresaw these problems, or even worse, are doing it on purpose.

In a few weeks time, things will be worlds more stable, and I'll have the rest of the game's life to play. I have no reason to be anything more than mildly irritated that I can't log in right nooooow.

lmao...lol..wow...im sorry Crow...but these problems have been happening for OVER a month..ask anyone whos been on here since open beta...lol...wow..ur comments actaully make me chuckle..no disrespect intended of course..but wow...

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Its obvious that cryptic cant get their S//T together...i feel horribly sorry for all you guys who got suckered into buying a one year or life time sub...The reason they had such a quick promo was to get as much money from you as possible before the game was sunk.....good JOB CRYPTIC

So... what you're saying is you're sorry you didn't/couldn't get a lifetime or one year sub.

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Its obvious that cryptic cant get their S//T together...i feel horribly sorry for all you guys who got suckered into buying a one year or life time sub...The reason they had such a quick promo was to get as much money from you as possible before the game was sunk.....good JOB CRYPTIC

I will be sure to keep that in kind when you realize in a year or so that I don't have to continously pay 15 bucks a month, and you will. Way before then it will be worked out and much better than it is now. It pays for itself in 16 months, gives me the Borg, and 2 extra slots for my sons to also have characters. There is NO WAY (and I will come back on this forum and kiss your ass and eat my own words if I am wrong here) that Cryptic could afford to let the Star Trek franchise die online it it's first MMO, within a measly 16 months. Ain't gonna happen.

Not sure why people think you're freaking out though, it's an opinion that I simply had to rebutt.

Peace

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so what you are saying is you enjoy the company of "little boys"......
:eek:

Dammit! I have been exposed! To the Paedomobile!

*Drives off*

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WoW didn't, and it had a much larger launch than the pre-order load of this game. We have yet to scratch the surface of load issues, the retail copies from Target/Wal-Mart will likely mean 2-3 times what we have now. What happens then?

Wow DID. I know because I was there.

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"Cant even handle the traffic"? You kknow for sure that the servers were taken down because too many people were on? If you've got the inside scoop, why not enlighten us as to what they're doing to fix it right now? As to "imagine on Feb 2nd", Id say yeah, it'll probably be similar, because you don't seem to understand that NO ONE in their right mind expects a MMO to function perfectly, or even close to perfect, at launch day. If we have this same amount of trouble 3 months in, THEN I'll be worried.

Cryptic has done MMOs before, but guess what? They're progamming is different. May not even be on the same type of server, component-wise. If patience is bad, I should be given the death penalty, since I took care of an Alzheimer's patient for 10 years, by myself, in-home care.

And yes, I'm sure there's plenty of people like you, impatient, demanding, and with unrealistic expectations, that are leaving in droves. Good riddance, I say!

HA!! u have NO point unless its fixed within 3 months. Add me to ur friends list, and in 3 months...i want a nice long apology

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Server temporarily down, here come the doomsayers - calamity at every oportunity.:rolleyes:

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Cryptic has done MMOs before, but guess what? They're progamming is different. May not even be on the same type of server, component-wise. If patience is bad, I should be given the death penalty, since I took care of an Alzheimer's patient for 10 years, by myself, in-home care.

that's where you are wrong, sto is champions online with spaceships. both games run off the same exact engine, I'd venture to guess 60+% of the code is identical.

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Its obvious that cryptic cant get their S//T together...i feel horribly sorry for all you guys who got suckered into buying a one year or life time sub...The reason they had such a quick promo was to get as much money from you as possible before the game was sunk.....good JOB CRYPTIC

Its obvious you have no clue about whats involved in a launch (which is not till the 2nd) prelaunch and how servers work in general. Personally If I had the cash right now I would drop it on a life time right now.

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I purchased the lifetime as I have faith the game will do well and because I can afford it so why not. I find alot of ppl try to complain about it one, because they cant afford it and are mad they cant have the borg to start. Two because they are very negative and there is always something to complain about.

im sorry but this ENTIRE post makes no sense. You got it cause u could afford it...well why you are at it..go get a sex change...You mine as well since u can afford it...right?

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I purchased the lifetime as I have faith the game will do well and because I can afford it so why not. I find alot of ppl try to complain about it one, because they cant afford it and are mad they cant have the borg to start. Two because they are very negative and there is always something to complain about.

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So... what you're saying is you're sorry you didn't/couldn't get a lifetime or one year sub.

Seriously....thats how u process info? thas what u garnered from what ive said?? lol..yea...im SOOOO sad i didnt get a lifetime sub...LMAO. i guess thats the laugh of sadness....o wait...theres NO SUCH thing

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that's where you are wrong, sto is champions online with spaceships. both games run off the same exact engine, I'd venture to guess 60+% of the code is identical.

To break it down running on the same engine will result in the same back end code more or less. However to give you example I can make a build for a game on an engine I use and someone else can do the same on the exact same engine. We can then test both builds and find totally different bugs.

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that's where you are wrong, sto is champions online with spaceships. both games run off the same exact engine, I'd venture to guess 60+% of the code is identical.

88.7% of percentages stated on forums are made up on the spot.

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Its obvious that cryptic cant get their S//T together...i feel horribly sorry for all you guys who got suckered into buying a one year or life time sub...The reason they had such a quick promo was to get as much money from you as possible before the game was sunk.....good JOB CRYPTIC

I guess the lifetime sub deal ended and you missed it out? :p

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Nooooo the Server is down .... and its running for 2 days or so ... this must mean it is DOOOOOOMED .... since EVERY other MMO i played was running perfect on Day 1 .... sarcasm off

I'm a Lifer and feel sorry for people who seriously thought the game would run perfectly from Day One ... get off drugs ....

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DId anyone here play WoW on day 1? NO! everyone set in a queue that was two thousand people long... waiting for a slot to open... when the server were up.

MMO launches are always terrible.

I have a lifetime subscription and of the 19 hours I've played so far I'm rather enjoying the game the content is great and the grind is way more interesting than WoW's.

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WoW didn't, and it had a much larger launch than the pre-order load of this game. We have yet to scratch the surface of load issues, the retail copies from Target/Wal-Mart will likely mean 2-3 times what we have now. What happens then?



um, you weren't there for them or don't remember them. World of ******** did have startup problems.

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70% of statistics are made up on the spot.

You're late. I posted that fact about 65% faster than you :p

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that's where you are wrong, sto is champions online with spaceships. both games run off the same exact engine, I'd venture to guess 60+% of the code is identical.

70% of statistics are made up on the spot.

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Ok, so, you feel sorry for people with lifetime subscriptions because the game is so popular, it has so many people trying to play it, that no matter what, it crashes? Yeah, that makes no sense to me.

That's like saying to Beatles fans trying to get a copy of "Meet the Beatles" when it came out "I feel sorry for you. Your favorite band's newest album is in short supply. No matter how many factories they build to pump out more copies of the album, it still flies off the shelf faster than it can be stocked. I feel so sorry for you. The Beatles need to get their **** in gear."

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I guess the lifetime sub deal ended and you missed it out? :p

DUH DUH DUH....yea it ended Feb 1...as in TOMM. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its hasnt ended and i would NEVER be suckered into getting it..u kidding me? LOOK at the state theyre going to release this game in..

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im sorry but this ENTIRE post makes no sense. You got it cause u could afford it...well why you are at it..go get a sex change...You mine as well since u can afford it...right?

You don't make sense. :D

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Its obvious that cryptic cant get their S//T together...i feel horribly sorry for all you guys who got suckered into buying a one year or life time sub...The reason they had such a quick promo was to get as much money from you as possible before the game was sunk.....good JOB CRYPTIC

Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one...

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Oh well, there maybe alot of negatives but there are still the positives!

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I hate to say it but I actually sort of agree with the OP. I personally thought the lifetime subscription was a bad idea anyway, and the ability to play as a "Borg" didn't seem all that special. I did get a 12 month subscription because I don't like the idea of only 2 slots for characters...but still I can see why people would be upset. For the lifetimers, Cryptic has your money now and they can do what they want with it, whether the game is working or not.

There are some things that I do not mind and not finding perfection in the first week of a new game is one of those things I do not mind.

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WoW didn't, and it had a much larger launch than the pre-order load of this game. We have yet to scratch the surface of load issues, the retail copies from Target/Wal-Mart will likely mean 2-3 times what we have now. What happens then?

WoW DIDN'T have server problems at launch? Where were you, they sure as heck did. They had things like huge population servers sharing database clusters with 3 lower pop servers - and all 4 of them being unavailable for hours, or lagged so bad that opening a corpse took 15 minutes. The first month they had to totally reconfigure how worlds utilzed and shared database clusters...and they had something like 30 servers to reconfigure. It didn't go fast.

Sure - they *had* the foresight to have 10 or so unopened servers at launch that they could pull into action in the first few days, but that didn't help the people that chose to go to a specific server because..."that's where all the big clans said they were going before launch."

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Oh well, there maybe alot of negatives but there are still the positives!

... which is what makes this thread a fun read :)

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That sometimes there a problems that you do not forsee..

Again, squealing about it will not help pube, and critising people who may be disadvantaged does seem a little on the aggressive side.

However, if the server issue continue on for more than a week, with the same regularity it might be an issue.

Personally without knowledge of what the problem is it is hard to say.

For me it looks like they don't have enough capacity to cover the amount of people wanting to play...

If thats all it is, well its not too hard to address and there is a big positive in there..

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thatks for making my point

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Save me under ur friends list...if this game doesnt fail within 9 months....get back to me, and lets see who feels sorry for who

9 months?

You are obviously very new to MMOs.

Will certainly save you under my ignore list, thanks and have a nice day.

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HOW DARE YOU HAVE UR OWN OPINION!!!...lol..thats basically what everyone says when they back up Cryptic and this MASSIVE let down...good job Sheep. TheDE..thanks for being WAY more realistic then the majority of the fans of STO

it perfectly ok to have you own opinon just keep it to your self really no one cares.

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Ok, so, you feel sorry for people with lifetime subscriptions because the game is so popular, it has so many people trying to play it, that no matter what, it crashes? Yeah, that makes no sense to me.

That's like saying to Beatles fans trying to get a copy of "Meet the Beatles" when it came out "I feel sorry for you. Your favorite band's newest album is in short supply. No matter how many factories they build to pump out more copies of the album, it still flies off the shelf faster than it can be stocked. I feel so sorry for you. The Beatles need to get their **** in gear."

WRONG!!!!!.....this isnt even the entire Population...these are SIMPLY head starters...the real crowd hasnt even BEGUN to arrive. You think this is supposed to represent a full day or players??? lmao...wow....

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88.7% of percentages stated on forums are made up on the spot.

you are correct, however it is a fact that both games run off the same engine, are produced by the same company, hence will naturally have much of the same code. The only real difference would be the graphical files, perhaps some of the animation files, and then the one element that is not included in CO, which is space. Recognizing how large space combat is I would venture a large chunk of code to be original, hence I reached my 60% stat off a knowledge of basic structure for the game itself not a random selection.

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Simpsons did it

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Its obvious that cryptic cant get their S//T together...i feel horribly sorry for all you guys who got suckered into buying a one year or life time sub...The reason they had such a quick promo was to get as much money from you as possible before the game was sunk.....good JOB CRYPTIC

really I feel sorry for a troll like you who has nothing good to say and only posts when he see's something negative.

So let me suggest a solution to your pity party troll tactics go find a large metal object and play with powerline's
when you hit one and get knocked on your troll ass thats how you will know you won.

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Well within all Fairness guys you all are being 'reasonably' unreasonable here are some simple facts about whats going on here

1. you lifetime subscribers technically pay off your lifetime subscription in 15 months and then your on the free time so even if the game fails right after this you still get all the perks and you broke even with everyone else, and with such a large brand name Cryptic doesn't want to screw this up like Star wars Galaxy's was screwed up.

2. Your Playing the head start, they gave us people who pre-ordered the game the chance to play the game 'BEFORE realse it to retail outlets' they could have easily not given us a head start and continue the open Beta in which they crunched so many bugs during that period of time. THIS IS A PERK Your Not actually paying for the game yet remember you get this plus one-month free on cryptic dime on this.

3. They are fixing problems and keeping us informed of said problems and giving us a rough timeline for it to be completed, so they are doing a kick butt job to keep us paying consumers in the light, I doubt that many companies even do that for their customers.

There I said my piece.

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DId anyone here play WoW on day 1? NO! everyone set in a queue that was two thousand people long... waiting for a slot to open... when the server were up.

MMO launches are always terrible.

I have a lifetime subscription and of the 19 hours I've played so far I'm rather enjoying the game the content is great and the grind is way more interesting than WoW's.

I was there. I remember.

You want a good MMO launch? Play Turbine games - they've launched more MMO's then anyone else.

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WRONG!!!!!.....this isnt even the entire Population...these are SIMPLY head starters...the real crowd hasnt even BEGUN to arrive. You think this is supposed to represent a full day or players??? lmao...wow....

Wow, you totally put words in my mouth that weren't there. I never said it's representative of a full day of players. But instead of ridiculing you and putting words in your mouth:

Thank you for only proving my point about just how many people are interested n the game. If you were here in Beta, you'd know the servers are not inherently unstable. Heck, they even expanded the number of servers in the cluster because the servers in Open Beta ended up being so flooded with people that the majority couldn't get in.

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you are correct, however it is a fact that both games run off the same engine, are produced by the same company, hence will naturally have much of the same code. The only real difference would be the graphical files, perhaps some of the animation files, and then the one element that is not included in CO, which is space. Recognizing how large space combat is I would venture a large chunk of code to be original, hence I reached my 60% stat off a knowledge of basic structure for the game itself not a random selection.

Since you're guessing, isn't it just smarter to state "A large part of the code is most likely identical to the one in CO"? :)

I can tell you haven't worked in any customer service profession ;)

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I'll get my money's worth. Also, new avatar and signature. I have been assimilated.

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it perfectly ok to have you own opinon just keep it to your self really no one cares.

once again, the pot calling the kettle black. if u HAD a point..it was lost during the contradiction

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Its obvious that cryptic cant get their S//T together...i feel horribly sorry for all you guys who got suckered into buying a one year or life time sub...The reason they had such a quick promo was to get as much money from you as possible before the game was sunk.....good JOB CRYPTIC

STFU.

At the end of the day, it's a new game which is probably one of the most popular games cryptic have ever worked on. They weren't prepared for the sheer amount of people that were going to play this game.

No two ways about it.

I bought a lifetime sub and to be perfectly honest, I'm glad I did it.

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I challenge you to write one post without several words in capslock.

Also, you clearly hate the game, so stop wasting our time, stop QQ'ing, and GTFO. You are currently only succeeding in acting like a spoiled little boy.

so because someone has an opinion different then you they are spoiled.....

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I hate to say it but I actually sort of agree with the OP. I personally thought the lifetime subscription was a bad idea anyway, and the ability to play as a "Borg" didn't seem all that special. I did get a 12 month subscription because I don't like the idea of only 2 slots for characters...but still I can see why people would be upset. For the lifetimers, Cryptic has your money now and they can do what they want with it, whether the game is working or not.

I got the 1 year because Cryptic's track record indicates that might indeed be a lifetime sub.

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DId anyone here play WoW on day 1? NO! everyone set in a queue that was two thousand people long... waiting for a slot to open... when the server were up.

MMO launches are always terrible.

I have a lifetime subscription and of the 19 hours I've played so far I'm rather enjoying the game the content is great and the grind is way more interesting than WoW's.

Aye, I was at WoW for open beta and launch. It was was quite bad. I seem to remember it took weeks or months to get stable. Who will ever forget being dumped in the drink to drown when trying to go from Menethil Harbor to Auberdine!

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lmao...lol..wow...im sorry Crow...but these problems have been happening for OVER a month..ask anyone whos been on here since open beta...lol...wow..ur comments actaully make me chuckle..no disrespect intended of course..but wow...

I've been here since open beta. In fact, I've been here since very early on in open beta. It's not like the servers were exactly getting stress tested back then. I'm also currently going to college, learning to do this stuff for a living. I know a little something about how this technology works. Maybe not as much as some, seeing as how I'm still learning, but I know enough to understand how the process works.

I've also been playing MMOs for quite some time. Sometimes the servers are simply unpredictable at these early stages, no matter how much beta and stress testing they underwent. When things are like they are now, the people maintaining the servers aren't just going to sit around and shrug their shoulders. They're going to, you know, work on the servers.

On a side note, why is it that when someone says, "no disrespect intended" or "no offense," the rest of whatever they say is usually geared directly towards being either offensive or disrespectful?

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To break it down running on the same engine will result in the same back end code more or less. However to give you example I can make a build for a game on an engine I use and someone else can do the same on the exact same engine. We can then test both builds and find totally different bugs.

that is true.

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WoW didn't, and it had a much larger launch than the pre-order load of this game. We have yet to scratch the surface of load issues, the retail copies from Target/Wal-Mart will likely mean 2-3 times what we have now. What happens then?

Actually, WoW had an EXTREMELY bad launch. I was a major ******** fan, and yet almost sold my account to a friend because of how it was. A smooth launch was FFXI (assuming you played the JP version, as the EN version was 1 year later).

WoW launch had very, very long server queues, servers dropped every 2-3 hours for 4+ hours, server lag was absolutely ridiculous, loot lag could make you sit in one spot FOR OVER AN HOUR, and if you logged out, you had to wait in the queue again, etc.




The only thing WoW didn't have that this does is rubberbanding. I never got bounced around on WoW. However, only times I've had a rubberband issue on this is during the tutorial. After that, it's smooth sailing it seems.

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Well within all Fairness guys you all are being 'reasonably' unreasonable here are some simple facts about whats going on here

1. you lifetime subscribers technically pay off your lifetime subscription in 15 months and then your on the free time so even if the game fails right after this you still get all the perks and you broke even with everyone else, and with such a large brand name Cryptic doesn't want to screw this up like Star wars Galaxy's was screwed up.

2. Your Playing the head start, they gave us people who pre-ordered the game the chance to play the game 'BEFORE realse it to retail outlets' they could have easily not given us a head start and continue the open Beta in which they crunched so many bugs during that period of time. THIS IS A PERK Your Not actually paying for the game yet remember you get this plus one-month free on cryptic dime on this.

3. They are fixing problems and keeping us informed of said problems and giving us a rough timeline for it to be completed, so they are doing a kick butt job to keep us paying consumers in the light, I doubt that many companies even do that for their customers.

There I said my piece.


The ONLY favor they are doing is giving us ENOUGH time to cancel our preorders which is their mistake. and second...they DONT keep us updated about anything other then the obvious...which is "the servers are down"

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STFU.

At the end of the day, it's a new game which is probably one of the most popular games cryptic have ever worked on. They weren't prepared for the sheer amount of people that were going to play this game.

No two ways about it.

I bought a lifetime sub and to be perfectly honest, I'm glad I did it.

how can you be unprepared for the "SHEER AMOUNT" of people when you have sales records?

I find this baffling.....
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I got the 1 year because Cryptic's track record indicates that might indeed be a lifetime sub.

lol..nice reply and sadly enough it actually makes sense. TOO BAD

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once again, the pot calling the kettle black. if u HAD a point..it was lost during the contradiction

Why the hell would a Pot want to call a Kettle black? Besides, both are inanimate objects and incapable of speech or even sentient thought.

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Well within all Fairness guys you all are being 'reasonably' unreasonable here are some simple facts about whats going on here

1. you lifetime subscribers technically pay off your lifetime subscription in 15 months and then your on the free time so even if the game fails right after this you still get all the perks and you broke even with everyone else, and with such a large brand name Cryptic doesn't want to screw this up like Star wars Galaxy's was screwed up.

2. Your Playing the head start, they gave us people who pre-ordered the game the chance to play the game 'BEFORE realse it to retail outlets' they could have easily not given us a head start and continue the open Beta in which they crunched so many bugs during that period of time. THIS IS A PERK Your Not actually paying for the game yet remember you get this plus one-month free on cryptic dime on this.

3. They are fixing problems and keeping us informed of said problems and giving us a rough timeline for it to be completed, so they are doing a kick butt job to keep us paying consumers in the light, I doubt that many companies even do that for their customers.

There I said my piece.

Good man!... or woman?