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Archived Post 02-08-2010 12:25 PM

Why do KDF cruisers have the dps of escorts?
 
And the turn rate of science vessels, and the survivability of a cruiser, not to mention a cloaking device. Honestly, some balance is needed.

Archived Post 02-08-2010 12:39 PM

A quick look at Suricata's ship charts gives the data.
T4 Klink cruiser = Less hull than any fed ship. Better turning than Fed cruiser, worse turning than Sci Ship. Same console slots as fed cruiser, same BO as fed cruiser, same weapon slots as a fed cruiser.


So...less survivable than a fed cruiser.
Less maneuverable than a fed sci ship.
A cloaking device that doesn't do anything once combat is joined.


Honestly, some Fed perspective is needed.

Archived Post 02-08-2010 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaglug (Post 1998734)
A quick look at Suricata's ship charts gives the data.
T4 Klink cruiser = Less hull than any fed ship. Better turning than Fed cruiser, worse turning than Sci Ship. Same console slots as fed cruiser, same BO as fed cruiser, same weapon slots as a fed cruiser.


So...less survivable than a fed cruiser.
Less maneuverable than a fed sci ship.
A cloaking device that doesn't do anything once combat is joined.


Honestly, some Fed perspective is needed.

thank you. We are tin cans with big guns.

Archived Post 02-08-2010 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Parallel (Post 1998537)
And the turn rate of science vessels, and the survivability of a crusier, not to mention a cloaking device. Honestly, some balance is needed.

Why is it that Klinks do not get a proper science ship until T5?

Archived Post 02-08-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaglug (Post 1998734)
A cloaking device that doesn't do anything once combat is joined.

Sure, it only means something in lining up all your ships to instantly kill someone right out of cloak... :rolleyes:

Archived Post 02-08-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rothnang
Sure, it only means something in lining up all your ships to instantly kill someone right out of cloak... :rolleyes:

Ok, so your complaint is that five Klingon ships should not be able to kill one Fed ship. That seems very reasonable. I lke your ideas, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Archived Post 02-08-2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaglug (Post 1998734)
A quick look at Suricata's ship charts gives the data.
T4 Klink cruiser = Less hull than any fed ship. Better turning than Fed cruiser, worse turning than Sci Ship. Same console slots as fed cruiser, same BO as fed cruiser, same weapon slots as a fed cruiser.


So...less survivable than a fed cruiser.
Less maneuverable than a fed sci ship.
A cloaking device that doesn't do anything once combat is joined.


Honestly, some Fed perspective is needed.

Yea right, less hull then any fed ship. A bit of honesty would be great.

T4 K Cruiser Hull = 30k 10 turn rate
T4 F Science = 22,5k 12 turn rate (the difference between 12 and 10 is tiny)
T4 F Escort = 25k 17 turn rate.
T4 F Cruiser = 32.5k (again 32k and 30k is nothing) turn rate is 5.... (that;s 5 vs 10)

And it can mount cannons with rapid fire, while Fed cruiser don't have enough energy to run beams. If you don't get Feds cruisers cannot mount cannons or is that useful with turn rate of 5, and beams drain energy badly.

Archived Post 02-08-2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GnawLF
Why is it that Klinks do not get a proper science ship until T5?

Calling that flying pig a proper science vessel is an insult to science vessels.

Archived Post 02-08-2010 01:06 PM

kling cruisers get cannons, and they can dish our damage. I don't think Fed perspective is needed, I think there might be a bit of balance necessary.

I'd also rather they get it right, and do it slowly, rather than overreact and nerf.

Archived Post 02-08-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rothnang
Sure, it only means something in lining up all your ships to instantly kill someone right out of cloak... :rolleyes:

Only to people weaker than us...that usually means you are of a lower level. Blame that on Cryptics horrible combat/skills and gear model. You pop pretty easy when the guy is +3 or more above you.


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