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Archived Post 05-24-2011 11:28 PM

wedding dresses in the c-store
 
Just had a idea after talking with my gf about having diffrent types of wedding dresses in the c-store and possibly a wedding chapel somewhere in the game.
I know alot of ppl would do the wedding just for fun :D
I also know that theres probably alot of couples out there that would love to get married in STO.

Well just a idea and suggestion.
Great game cryptic and looking forward to S4

Archived Post 05-25-2011 12:32 AM

I was going to comment that Star Trek Online is rated "T for Teen", but then I actually looked at the rating specification, in that it specifically allows "Suggestive Themes".. so the rating wouldn't specifically be in the way.

However, Star Trek always kind of tippytoed around the issue of what 23rd/24th century human "Religion" looked like. I think in part that's due to the general impression I've always had, that Gene Roddenberry's vision of an evolved humanity, didn't include the kind of overt religion as we know it today.

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Originally Posted by Captain James T. Kirk (TOS: Balance of Terror)

Since the days of the first wooden vessels, all ship masters have had one happy privilege: that of uniting two people in the bonds of matrimony. And so, we are gathered here today with you, Angela Martine, and you, Robert Tomlinson, in the sight of your fellows in accordance with our laws and our many beliefs, that you may pledge your -

[the ceremony is interrupted by a siren]

"our many beliefs" suggests that religions still exist, but their precise nature and names are "best left unsaid and unshown". It seems that in the 23rd/24th century, humanity has learned that it's best not to bring Religion and Politics to the workplace, and religion seems to have evolved to be more of a private thing. Only Martine (and possibly Rand) seems to pray in that scene, everyone else seems to be "kindly accepting" her quaint adherence to custom. The altar seems to be kind of.. well okay it's extremely vague as to what religion it might refer to, though there does seem to be a vague "Christmas tree" motif (though that might have something to do with the fact that the episode aired on December 15, 1966)

That said, I don't think CBS will be "too keen" on giving players the suggestion that they could "get married"... because that inevitably leads to the issue of consummating that marriage. But at the same time, I think it might be cool to give us some kind of weddingish/contillionish gazebo construct, maybe someplace on Risa.

Of course that almost entirely guarantees that we'll never see Betazed (or Ferenginar for that matter)

As for wedding clothes, Martine and Tomlinson got married in their standard duty uniforms (though Martine had some kind of feathers on her head), and while Keiko got married in a Kimono, O'brien wore his "Dress" uniform. Likewise,m when Riker and Troi got married, Troi wore a pink dress, and Riker wore a standard Dress Uniform.

(it's interesting that the TOS crew didn't wear dress uniforms for the wedding in Balance of Terror, this is of course easily explained by the fact that they hadn't actually been created by the time that episode was made)

Archived Post 05-25-2011 10:14 AM

There is nothing wrong with having marriage in the game. Aside from the countless sets of married couples that we've seen in all of the series we've had the chance to see alot of couples getting married. Martine and Tomlinson, Chief Miles Edward O'Brian and Keiko, Captain Riker and Diana Troi, Worf and Jadzia. There's even been a couple of close calls like Lwaxana and that minister guy... Everyone married, even Quark got married!

As for the matter of wedding dresses..... if they ever add wedding outfits then I want some traditional Betazed wedding outfits too! :eek:

Archived Post 05-25-2011 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tilarium (Post 3557189)
There is nothing wrong with having marriage in the game. Aside from the countless sets of married couples that we've seen in all of the series we've had the chance to see alot of couples getting married. Martine and Tomlinson, Chief Miles Edward O'Brian and Keiko, Captain Riker and Diana Troi, Worf and Jadzia. There's even been a couple of close calls like Lwaxana and that minister guy... Everyone married, even Quark got married!

As for the matter of wedding dresses..... if they ever add wedding outfits then I want some traditional Betazed wedding outfits too! :eek:

I like the idea of adding the ability of some characters being allowed to tie the knot, so long as everyone knows that events that occur in the game have now bearing or legal basis in the real world outside the game (or any legal obligations in the game either!). Character interactions and plot threads like this help to enrich the role playing experience.

What kind of ceremonies would be performed? The Western White Wedding and Betazoid are classics (from a Trek fan's point of view), but what about East Asian Ceremonies? How about Andorian or Vulcan ones too? Will there be a Saber Arch Avalable for military weddings(with the spouse being tapped on the rump)?

I would recommend, however, that Wedding dresses be restricted to female characers. Another question that comes to mind is what kind of dresses? Most people automatically think of Western White Wedding dresses, but there are other types as well. There is the elaborate Kimono, and the colorful Hanbok marrage dresses from East Asia. Would those be included as well? My thoughts on Betaziod "attire" is that a certain amount of decorum be observed, and at all Betaziod ceramonies, the participants should at a minumum wear skin colored bikinis or speedos.

Archived Post 05-25-2011 07:37 PM

Technically being the Captain of your ship you don't need a chapel, you're fully allowed to do so on your on. Hell, Picards done it on the enterprise, i think Kirk has married two officers together.

Archived Post 05-25-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wraith_Shadow
Technically being the Captain of your ship you don't need a chapel, you're fully allowed to do so on your on. Hell, Picards done it on the enterprise, i think Kirk has married two officers together.

*Strolling down the halls of his ship*

Captain Reverand: You *points to crewman* and..... *looks around* you! *points to crewwoman* You're married! I'm the Captain, make it so!

Archived Post 05-25-2011 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PodSix
I was going to comment that Star Trek Online is rated "T for Teen", but then I actually looked at the rating specification, in that it specifically allows "Suggestive Themes".. so the rating wouldn't specifically be in the way.
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Personally i don't think i've seen a whole lot in the way of suggestive themes. i'm surprised it hasn't come up more seeing how much sex came up in the shows and movies. Even in TOS up to Enterprise there is ALWAYS a mention of it happening. I'm not talking about trills "doin' it till the worm falls out" but with things like marraige i'm surprised it hasn't happened for things like missions or cut scenes where one is interupted. But yeah, there are a LOT of people that would have married characters in game if they had the options for it. How many Trek themed weddings are ther IRL each year, you know?

Would i do it? Hellz no, but still i know a lot of people out there would.

Archived Post 05-26-2011 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Wraith_Shadow
Personally i don't think i've seen a whole lot in the way of suggestive themes. i'm surprised it hasn't come up more seeing how much sex came up in the shows and movies. Even in TOS up to Enterprise there is ALWAYS a mention of it happening. I'm not talking about trills "doin' it till the worm falls out" but with things like marraige i'm surprised it hasn't happened for things like missions or cut scenes where one is interupted. But yeah, there are a LOT of people that would have married characters in game if they had the options for it. How many Trek themed weddings are ther IRL each year, you know?

Would i do it? Hellz no, but still i know a lot of people out there would.

I think we haven't seen it in missions because the game has no tool to take the gender of your character into account.. and there is no function to state sexual orientation.

So if a mission featured a character who you'd "encounter romantically on Risa, fade to black"... well if that character were, female let's say.. then every female captain who played that mission would be being portrayed as homosexual. Likewise if the character were a hunky oiled up male, then all the male captains would be facing an implied homosexual encounter.

Since the game currently has no way to "make the character female if the player's captain is male", and there's no mechanism at all to officially state whether your character likes same or opposite sex partners (or doesn't care)... I honestly don't think Cryptic is going to put any kind of content out there that approaches this kind of territory.

Again it's also super-important to remember that when it comes to content, it's not just Cryptic calling the shots. and it may be Cyrptic's and/or CBS's intent that STO remain "squeaky clean" on the suggestiveness front.. they probably only accepted the T for Teen rating so they could squeeze ground combat into the game.

Star Trek's network handlers have never been comfortable with depicting and kind of "anything but straight" sexual attraction, fearing that doing so would alienate key demographic groups, and thus jeopardize ratings and potentially trigger sponsor/affiliate activism. (Sponsors pulling out, stations refusing to air episodes our outright dropping the show, etc)

There is of course, a puritanical subset among Star Trek fans, and as slash-fic (Kirk and Spock love story) fan represents one extreme, this group represents the other extreme, rejecting any sexualizing of the characters, even in canon. There were fans who hated 7-of-9 for her big boobs and slinky outfit. There were fans who rejected Enterprise because of it's fascination with steamy massage scenes in decon. There were letters written in protest when Jadzia kissed the other trill woman, and when Crusher's trill boyfriend turned into a girl.. and there were letters written when Riker fell in love with that person from the genderless species.

As gratifying as it may be to think that Star Trek Fans, as a whole, are a more enlightened, openminded bunch, like the people in the futuristic world they love .. it's really important to remember that the Star Trek fans are still a product of their own times and cultures as well.

Getting back to the original point, however, in STO's current state, it's unlikely we'll see much more suggestive content (heterosexual or otherwise). And honestly, there's not a lot of incentive for them to develop the tech to handle character sexual orientation for STO. (Though that tech might be developed for Champions.. in which case it could filter back to STO for foundry authors to use someday)..

But until that tech exists (player character is male, listed as heterosexual, character in story becomes female) there's really not much incentive for the STO team to toy with this type of content, since it's only likely to upset people when it "goes wrong".

Archived Post 05-26-2011 03:14 AM

i can see that being a popular opening to Foundry missions though

Archived Post 05-26-2011 06:13 AM

It would be pretty cool if we got the Klingon wedding outfits that Worf and Jadzia wore. And also some dress uniforms for the 25th century.


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