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Archived Post 06-09-2011 11:28 AM

reman or breen shields on science
 
I have the reman shields and I'm looking at the replay breen shields. They have about 2800 less HP and only 46 more recharge.

What do you think? It's nice to have the purples but in this case I don't really see that it's so much better.

Archived Post 06-09-2011 11:28 AM

Really depends on your style. I myself use the Aegis Covariants. Coupled with all my buffs and well...hard to punch through them. Granted if you want the full bonus of the Breen set you'll have to use them.

Archived Post 06-09-2011 11:28 AM

Breen Shields are Resilient shields which means they negate 50% of all bleedthrough damage.

Covariant shields are for withstanding powerful, burst attacks.

Resilient shields are better at fighting off constant, medium strength damage provided you have the ability to throw a few shield resists on it like TSS or EPtS.

Archived Post 06-09-2011 11:28 AM

Thanks. I must've missed it but what is the bonus for collecting all three breen equipment? I have always used high hp shields. Not sure why. But I have several shield regen abilities so it seemed the right thing to do.

Archived Post 06-09-2011 11:28 AM

The 3 piece (full set) bonus for the AZ (absolute zero) Set is a free Energy Siphon 1 skill which is a Lt Science power.

The 2 piece partial set bonus is +30 to transphasic projectiles and +30% to EPS transfer rate.

Archived Post 06-09-2011 11:28 AM

Thanks. I will get the shields and play around with it to see. Has anyone used the siphon skill?

Archived Post 06-09-2011 11:28 AM

With the rapid fire transphasic torpedo, the breen set isn't an entirely bad deal. It could be good for an escort that specializes in transphasic torps because you get the boost to energy transfer and a free energy siphon (which can help out more than you think).

As for a science ship, it's already a very skill intensive build so you might miss those points you spend in transphasic. It CAN work for a build if you put your mind to it, but it would be rather specialized (not that there's anything wrong with that).

I could actually see a B'rel rocking this set pretty well. I hear transphais is popular with them because of their fire on cloak ability.

Archived Post 06-09-2011 11:28 AM

Covariant shields are really the only shields worth using the other types are worthless...

Resilient Shield Array's have 5% less total capacity and regeneration over the normal shield array and normal shield arrays are complete garbage. The only thing u get is 5% less bleed through vs. the standard 10% which isnt enough to make them worth while.

Regenerative Shield Array's have 15% less total capacity but 25% higher regeneration over the normal shield array which even with your shield power setting set to full will be less than the normal incoming damage and also will require you to gimp a more useful power setting such as weapons or aux.

I honestly think the breen set is total garbage the boost to transphasics at the most brings them up to the lvl of barely competitive with other torpedoes and the Energy Siphon is just useless. Mind you that in addition to the lack luster set bonus your giving up the far better set bonus of either the borg or aegis set which either mitigates damage or regenerates shields.

Archived Post 06-09-2011 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Raso
With the rapid fire transphasic torpedo, the breen set isn't an entirely bad deal. It could be good for an escort that specializes in transphasic torps because you get the boost to energy transfer and a free energy siphon (which can help out more than you think). .

no no no no no no no. and no. The faster shot is BAD. its a horrible joke. AND the torps are not part of the set. as it almost sounds like you think it is, im not sure if you do, but it kinda sounds that way.

here is why.

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Originally Posted by Axterix
Your numbers for the rapid fire seem off.

The rapid fire has a base value of about 80% (most likely 80.9% or 8.5/10.5) of a normal transphasic. For me, with Mk Xs (what I happened to check with), for example, a Transphasic shows 1956, while the rapid fire shows 1580. Both have a DPS rating of 186.

In essence, the rapid fire Transphasic is a white common item, that trades off some burst potential for greater smoothness due to firing more frequently.

Given the nature of torpedoes, with a player wanting to time them when shields are down, potentially not being able to utilize their max rate of fire due to limited firing arc, and the use HY torp BOff powers, this makes the rapid fire inferior to the regular version.

It is, sadly, a bad joke played on us by the devs.

To be a proper purple item, it needs to:
1. Do higher dps than a normal transphasic, as compensation for losing burst damage.
2. Get 3 bonus worth of things (2% crit, an extra 0.5 tier of damage, etc) to actually make it purple.

set is mediocre, even the devs said that. Its not as good as aegis, and aegis is not as good as borg set. However the set is designed to be "useful" when doing the breen missions...does it have some cool things about it, yes...do I want to try it out, yes...but the torps are a horible joke. get the crafted high end if you want transphasics.

Archived Post 06-09-2011 11:28 AM

i have to disagree the aegis set is far better than the borg set for a variety of reasons mainly the shield and engines are better.


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