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Archived Post 09-08-2011 07:01 AM

Advice on Tac
 
I'm a tactical officer, and with the last Q weekend I finally got my Klingon grind up to Lt. Gen. Up till yesterday I was in the Bird of Prey, and switched to the Raptor. Don't really have as much fun in it, but heard the Raptor is better for the Tacs. So....

Based off your experiences as a Tac, is it in my best interest to stay in Raptor? Or will I be just fine keeping up in a Bird Of Prey PvP wise?

Please don't state the obvious about universal bridge officers, and ship specs, I know this.

Archived Post 09-08-2011 08:56 AM

The raptor is horrible, probably the worst ship the Klingons have. It cant turn (worst turning escort in the game) and nearly has the shields of a bird (0.83 modifier).

Bird of Prey is easily the best damage ship on the Klingon side. Go with a commander tactical and LTC science for shockwave 1.

Archived Post 09-08-2011 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Beagles (Post 3745413)
The raptor is horrible, probably the worst ship the Klingons have. It cant turn (worst turning escort in the game) and nearly has the shields of a bird (0.83 modifier).

That's the silliest thing I've ever heard in sto... While I'm not really a big raptor fan (aesthetics as well as turn axis makes it seem silly looking) it's hardly the worst ship on the klingon side.

He's right as far as the bop being the best all arounder for pvp as a tac, the raptor is probably best for pure focus dps.

Archived Post 09-08-2011 09:38 AM

keep them coming guys....

Archived Post 09-08-2011 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kroegler
That's the silliest thing I've ever heard in sto... While I'm not really a big raptor fan (aesthetics as well as turn axis makes it seem silly looking) it's hardly the worst ship on the klingon side.

He's right as far as the bop being the best all arounder for pvp as a tac, the raptor is probably best for pure focus dps.

There is no ship worse than the Raptor on the klingon side. The closest contender is the Goomba and due to better shielding/better turning/more defensive BO layout, it is still better. All the cruisers are good, Voquv/Gorn/Karfi may not excel but Comm scis are still useful, and both birds are better.

So yes, if OP wants an escort equiv, the Goomba is better than the Raptor. Otherwise for the best damage dealer, go Bird of Prey.

Archived Post 09-08-2011 01:36 PM

The Raptor is ok in a PUG match but if you run into a Pre-made make sure you bring two lunches so you can have one after they take the first one.

Archived Post 09-08-2011 02:30 PM

All the posts above are right to a degree. I fly a raptor I love the raptor. It is not equivalent to its fed cousins (escorts) but it can be used effectively. In a pre-made most KDF ships are at a disadvantage that is why do not see alot of KDF pre-mades in any tourneys. The feds have a ship pretty much for every type of hybrid build. Now if you are pugging with buddies that have good builds to help you with doing dailies and non-premade PvP the raptor works. You cannot out turn a any fed escorts you can try but adding RCS will just make you that much more a liability. With the full borg set the raptor is tough in battle. I am not into serious Pre-made PvP and my ship will melt in the what is for the most part cookie cutter PvP that is Pre-Made PvP. Again it depends on your playstyle and what is more fun to you.

I ran a BoP like what was mentioned and I hated it, I either had burst(alpha) or no burst (waiting for things to come off CD)

Archived Post 09-09-2011 02:31 AM

Because of this thread I just respec'd to a raptor. I did so easily as on fed I have a defiant. The way my raptor is fitted and skilled right now there isn't much difference between the two. (I also even managed to make it look pretty nice I say.)

I'm going to keep it. Thank you mr. beagles for putting the "under powered" tag on this ship. Now when people call me op when I melt them instantly, as well as top dps and kills each match by several 100k I can reference this thread :)

I'm missing 3200hp total hp on my shields from the defiant (800hp each facing).. And that's because I'm using cov cap x3 shields on both ships. I'll bet the reduction is less if the 2 ships were equipped with aegis or reman. Well maybe since my hull is nearly 3000hp higher that won't be such a big deal. It is true though, more shields is nicer than more hull. My turn rate is slightly slower., though only a mere .6 if I decide to keep the rcs. I may not though. I may instead capitalize on the extra hull and 3rd engineering console and add resists. Maybe shield power, not sure, their are other options of course. In about a week or two I'll come back to this thread if anyone is still interested.

I can already say from day 1 that I really like flying this ship. I had a vorcha for months and this is a welcome change for my tac.

Archived Post 09-09-2011 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Data
All the posts above are right to a degree....
I ran a BoP like what was mentioned and I hated it, I either had burst(alpha) or no burst (waiting for things to come off CD)

Good that we have diversity of opinions in STO. I tried to fly Raptor on my TAC and SCI Klingon and I think that BOP is still best ship for me and my style of fight. Its truth that CRaptor is tough and very deadly ship - nice DPS (even when you put SCI in this ship) and survivability, but this ship is difficult to maneuver for me. Turning radius on this ship is a joke. BOP is like a wasp and CRaptor is like an old bumblebee :p.
Cryptic should make Raptor the most OP escort in this game because, one so far klingon escort should be OP - maybe little less survivability than FED escorts but Raptor should have 2nd after BOP e x c e l l e n t turning, speed and best in STO fire power.
When I see top BOP pilots like: K'eg, D'rek, Gripple'Chew, Qaw or Blackjack, I know that this little and squishy ship still can be really excellent killing machine.

Archived Post 09-09-2011 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kroegler

I'm going to keep it. Thank you mr. beagles for putting the "under powered" tag on this ship. Now when people call me op when I melt them instantly, as well as top dps and kills each match by several 100k I can reference this thread :)
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Get a team, play my team with your craptor, and you wont even get a single kill. In fact play any premade match and youll be completely worthless in that ship.


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