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Archived Post 11-03-2011 11:45 AM

Can the Engineer do decent damage with a Star Cruiser in PVP?
 
I use the star cruiser with my max level engie. Have 4 polaron beams front, 3 aft plus one tricobolt in back. Got consoles to boost beam weapons.

I always try to keep my ship sideways to the target so all beams are hitting at once. Also I make sure to keep the power level up with EPS power transfer/Nadion etc. I also use the Emergency Power to Weapons I ability which gives me 8% damage boost.

Even with 7 beams and max power I'm still not doing enough damage. Bops and Raptors shields often barely seem to move.

What can I do to boost damage output without sacrificing a ton of defense?

Archived Post 11-03-2011 11:57 AM

You picked the wrong class to try to DPS with.

Engineer in Star Cruiser is almost entirely stricken to support duties.

Even with broadside beams, I would be able to stay at or near 100% with nothing but 2x EPtS, Engineer Team, and balancing my shields.

To be openly blunt... no, there isn't a way to do any sort of meaningful damage with a Star Cruiser. Even Beam Overload will only affect 1 of your many beams and won't be enough by itself to actually do anything even if your enemy does get careless/stupid enough to actually let one of their facing shields slowly widdle away.

Archived Post 11-03-2011 12:10 PM

Yeah I rolled the engie to focus on support so I knew I was going to lose alot of DPS. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any tricks in my attempt to squeeze all the firepower I could out of my ship.

Archived Post 11-03-2011 12:22 PM

Why not just go healbot build or switch to an Assault Cruiser if you want some sort of hybrid.

Archived Post 11-03-2011 12:26 PM

When I've looked at using other ships it always seems I'm giving up more than I'm getting in return.

Archived Post 11-03-2011 12:37 PM

If you want to do damage with a cruiser get a Dreadnought.

Archived Post 11-03-2011 12:41 PM

Going to be honest with you, I can do as much with my Dreadnought as you can with a Star Cruiser, and I hit much harder.

Archived Post 11-03-2011 12:45 PM

Dreadnought huh?

So I'd be be trading the science ensign BO for a tac ensign BO. I'd also lose a sci console slot and some turning speed.

But I'd be gaining cloak and spinal laser...

I like the cloak, but is the spinal laser any good?

Archived Post 11-03-2011 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Obelus
Dreadnought huh?

So I'd be be trading the science ensign BO for a tac ensign BO. I'd also lose a sci console slot and some turning speed.

But I'd be gaining cloak and spinal laser...

I like the cloak, but is the spinal laser any good?

I 1-shot Defiants and MVAMs with it.

Anything else that lives is guaranteed to be hurting, and it is a rare thing they will survive my torpedo + secondary weapon volleys.

Turn rate... Star Cruiser vs Dreadnought, you will not even notice the turn rate difference. Star Cruiser is a barge.

Sci Console is of no consequence.

Ens Sci is of no consequence (only useful for Sci Team, possibly Hazard Emitters on a cruiser).

Archived Post 11-03-2011 01:33 PM

You can do decent damage, but you sure won't be the king of DPS, and don't expect to be in the top 3 for damage dealt. What kind of beams are you running with in terms of quality? I used Tetryon's (like the color :D) when I did PvP with my Starcruiser but didn't see any damage until I invested in blue/purple level rares. I used those, along with a tricobalt in the rear, and an engie trained in Aceton III and Direct Energy Modulation II (Also tried running with Eject Warp Plasma for awhile but dropped it Emergency Power to Shields III). It may cut into your survivability a little, but it also helps with dealing damage in my limited experience. Granted I didn't bother to invest in the new beams until I'd gotten my Galaxy Retrofit, and had VA equipment. I'd wait until you were VA to try PvP, and yes the Dreadnought can beat the Star Cruiser going toe to toe but so many people drive them like their escorts and epic fail at it, that it isn't that huge of a problem.


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