Star Trek Online

Star Trek Online (http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/index.php)
-   PvP Gameplay (http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/forumdisplay.php?f=125)
-   -   turn rate down the drain- bug? (http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=247262)

Archived Post 01-07-2012 04:27 AM

turn rate down the drain- bug?
 
Hi since the latest patch and respec I put 9 full points into impulse thrusters, but i realized my escort is turning like a slightly fast cruiser.....a defiant retrofit. It is turning like half of its engines are disabled...

please check your escorts and let me know. Could be a logical bug with the multipliers, of which im sure there will be a lot for sometime to come with the revamp.edited for clarity, i have the right skill, i just named it wrong in the OP.

Archived Post 01-07-2012 05:33 AM

You are correct sir. It was a topic the other day in opvp and others have confirmed. Even with an rcs I can't get back to pre-patch agility on any of my 5 escort flying toons.

And since all I fly is escorts. My feelings are kinda hurt by this change. I'm also a little butt hurt everyime I see a dread throw out a non spec'd fbp1 and do more damage in 5 seconds than I can.

In all I believe I will capture my timing again and get my burst back. Indidnt realize how much I depended on mobility for my plastyle. But..... We have to wonder why the new skill tree has had this impact, and was it intended or not.

Nerfing escorts (enter conspiracy theory mode) would be an easy way to make not so great players feel much better about pvp results. As they would be more ground down by larger ships instead of being out maneuvered and therefore out gunned by escorts. Now for the life of me I can't see how cryptic would ever make changes to the mechanics to impact pvp gameplay.... But I can't help but wonder.

Archived Post 01-07-2012 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruis.In (Post 3936952)
Hi since the latest patch and respec I put 9 full points into starship maneuvers, but i realized my escort is turning like a slightly fast cruiser.....a defiant retrofit. It is turning like half of its engines are disabled...

please check your escorts and let me know. Could be a logical bug with the multipliers, of which im sure there will be a lot for sometime to come with the revamp.

You know that Star ship maneuvers improves your Defence ??
Starship impulse Thrusters improves speed and turn rate !!

Archived Post 01-07-2012 07:09 AM

I dunno if this guy had low engine power or wasn't going all out or what, but my RSV was handily out turning this guy's Defiant yesterday.

Archived Post 01-07-2012 07:55 AM

mvs im 9'd out in what matters. and my defiant is turning at half the speed it was last week. and i keep my engines at 50 min, and they usually land in the high 60's low 70's.

this is with an rcs. i can get the "feel" back of pre-patch while running APO1.

Archived Post 01-07-2012 08:40 AM

I haven't seen this on my escorts. But none of them go to 9 in impulse thrusters, only 6. Is that the common thread here, people with bad turn rates going to 9 in impulse thrusters?

Archived Post 01-07-2012 09:11 AM

Regardless of the turnrate nerf I don't claim there is one or not, I think I had lots of fun playing my escort the last two days feels like ppl die faster and that is nice.

Archived Post 01-07-2012 11:08 AM

after this mornings matches im quite certain of this. i dont think its as bad as i may have recently led on, but there is a difference. i have adjusted some timing and performed a bit better.

what i do like about the new tree is that my escorts's shields are back over 10k. they had been around 8-9 mostly before the patch. even tho tss nerf has me a little concerned still, an aux battery he1, tss2 combo is still great for getting that escort pilot back on his feet.

have fun, re-visit new skill tree, kill bad guys.

horizon

Archived Post 01-07-2012 12:33 PM

sorry guys... obviously i made a mistake int he name of the skill. I meant impulse thrusters. I have that at nine and starship maneuvers incidentally.

all my settings are the same post patch as pre patch. in terms of points in engine performance. and i swear maybe it was my defiant you were out turning. I was like wtf is wrong with my ship? I was checking to see if i had an orange indicator above my mesh to see if a system was disabled, but nothing.

my turn rate is 30.6 now. running 47 engine power. Increasing my engine power by 10, carries it to 32.xx ......

i think pre-patch I was above 35.x turn radius, but i cant be certain of the number. What I can be certain of is that my defiant escort is turning like crap, and this severely gimps me.

I still think there has to be some logical error with the new skills not adding in the multiplier properly, or not multiplying at the old value, which can't be meant to be. Impulse thrusters might not be granting the max bonus when completely specced, as you were getting in the similar skill pre space change.

Besides.....if you check it, the only thing different with this patch is the ground skills part, they didn't change the space skills except to add the warp coil skill to lieutenant, which leads me to believe that a logical error creeped in their some how. My turn rate was fine after the space revamp, and now its borked after the ground revamp, and i have the same engine power setting, and skill spec as before in the required skills for turn rate.

tss was nerfed how?

Archived Post 01-07-2012 03:16 PM

tss was hit pretty hard. spec into it and make sure to pop an aux battery before to get a good heal.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:12 AM.