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Archived Post 02-08-2012 08:21 PM

The 2800 - Do they have a chance?
 
Ok
2,800 ships is a lot. That is a lot of ships. But they are now outdated by over 30 years. We won the last war, and our technology has improved by so much, it seems like we should be able to beat them. Not easily, but it shouldn't be hard. Now, 2,800 ships is a lot no matter how old they are, but if the Federation, Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, and everybody else join forces, perhaps we could win without loosing to much.

What do you guys think?

Archived Post 02-08-2012 08:23 PM

Who's to say they have not been upgraded over time as well?

Archived Post 02-08-2012 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HamRadio18
Ok
2,800 ships is a lot. That is a lot of ships. But they are now outdated by over 30 years. We won the last war, and our technology has improved by so much, it seems like we should be able to beat them. Not easily, but it shouldn't be hard. Now, 2,800 ships is a lot no matter how old they are, but if the Federation, Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, and everybody else join forces, perhaps we could win without loosing to much.

What do you guys think?

we only won the last war becasue those 2800 didnt show up....

considering the dominion were beating on not only the feds, but i belive romulans and klingons as well at the time, it was quiet obvious they had superior ships at the time. whos to say they are completely outdated if they were better than our ships at the time?

Archived Post 02-08-2012 08:36 PM

It is not the ships to worry about, it is the Crews aboard them. If they are all vets of many battles. It matter not the equipment, old it may be. But the skill behind them can proved to be deadly.

Archived Post 02-08-2012 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cross82
Who's to say they have not been upgraded over time as well?

They've been in limbo. Based on other things that went into the wormhole and came back at a later date (like that Bajoran poet or the USS Rapier), they may or may not have been aware of the passage of time, but they should not have directly experienced it in a physical sense.


40 years ago, though, the Dominion wrecked everybody in the quadrant. They trashed Warbirds and manhandled Galaxy class ships all over the place, and the Negh'var only escaped by plot armor because there was only one of them shown and it carried a major character.

Consider their position now: Player ships, even classes that themselves are Dominion War relics, are substantially superior to Jem'hadar ships. We've already been fighting relics. Their designs may have shifted, but their technology appears to have stagnated.

We've caught up to and surpassed them, but this is still 2800 ships, attacking a peaceful conference between two by this point almost comically war torn powers, both facing a full scale Borg invasion while still counting the dead from multiple major and numerous minor conflicts.

They'll stand a chance if for no other reason than the entire quadrant neither expecting them nor being in any shape to deal with them.

Archived Post 02-08-2012 09:04 PM

We have future Defiants with cloak, quad canons, and after this last patch AMS and God-only-knows what.

Nobody could stand against THAT.

Archived Post 02-08-2012 09:12 PM

2800 ships is nothing. I'm sure most STO players have blown up more ships than that single handedly, especially those that were around at launch. :p:rolleyes:

Archived Post 02-08-2012 09:13 PM

As a primarily KDF character all I can say is...

Its going to be GLORIOUS!

There are many foes, thier ships are technologicly 3 decades out of date.. thier warriors are unaware of what may or may not have changed. They are going to appear at DS9 which is the base for the Omega task force, THE most tecnologically advanced ships in the alpha quadrant commanded and crewed by the elite f the Federation and the Klingon Empire.

I think they are in for a serious shock.

I'm picturing how my stature will appear in the hall of hero's just thinking about it... I may be the first Orion to ever be honored with a statue there to inspire the warriors of the empire.

They can either lend a hand against the Borg, or they can leave, or they can fight, and they will die...

I'm really hoping they chose the latter *grin*

Archived Post 02-08-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hevach (Post 4004163)
They've been in limbo. Based on other things that went into the wormhole and came back at a later date (like that Bajoran poet or the USS Rapier), they may or may not have been aware of the passage of time, but they should not have directly experienced it in a physical sense.


40 years ago, though, the Dominion wrecked everybody in the quadrant. They trashed Warbirds and manhandled Galaxy class ships all over the place, and the Negh'var only escaped by plot armor because there was only one of them shown and it carried a major character.

Consider their position now: Player ships, even classes that themselves are Dominion War relics, are substantially superior to Jem'hadar ships. We've already been fighting relics. Their designs may have shifted, but their technology appears to have stagnated.

We've caught up to and surpassed them, but this is still 2800 ships, attacking a peaceful conference between two by this point almost comically war torn powers, both facing a full scale Borg invasion while still counting the dead from multiple major and numerous minor conflicts.

They'll stand a chance if for no other reason than the entire quadrant neither expecting them nor being in any shape to deal with them.

Aint seen DS9 for a few years thanks for the info.

Archived Post 02-08-2012 09:18 PM

Consider the state of the Federation, only just getting into talks with the Klingons about a defense against the Borg after open warfare, worn down from attacks from various sources, just plain stretched thin.

The Dominion fleet may be outdated, but they're blindsiding the Federation at a critical juncture.


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