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 kirksplat 06-20-2012 05:52 PM

Ok, so let me get this straight (Zen and C-store)

step 1: Visit the c-store website and find something that you like.

step 2: Click to buy c-points.

Step 3: You are taken to a site where you can buy "Zen."

Step 4: You must grab a calculator to figure out how many Zen points you need to buy, in order to have enough C-points to get the thing that you want. 80 C-points = 100 Zen.

Or you could write it out on paper:

240/80 = x/100 --> DO THE MATH.

Step 5: Try then to buy "Zen" only to hit a brick wall if your PWE account is new. Or, find out that the purchase process for buying "Zen" is broken and/or confusing.

Step 6: Give up trying to give Cryptic any money.

 azurianstar 06-20-2012 05:56 PM

Yeah, I liked the old way. You simply hit a button and the transation occurs.

Now you have to do the hokey pokey with the Perfect World page. So hopefully for Season 6 they will streamline the Zen purchase without having to leave the game.

 paxfederatica 06-20-2012 05:56 PM

To make matters worse, I had 1,000 C-points in my account before the changeover, so by that exchange rate I should have 1250 Zen. Instead I have... zero Zen.

I hope this is all just a matter of PWE not having completed that part of the migration yet.

 sovereignman 06-20-2012 05:58 PM

dividing by 0.8 is easier.

 balldrdash 06-20-2012 06:02 PM

Quote:
 Originally Posted by paxfederatica (Post 4307231) To make matters worse, I had 1,000 C-points in my account before the changeover, so by that exchange rate I should have 1250 Zen. Instead I have... zero Zen. I hope this is all just a matter of PWE not having completed that part of the migration yet.
the amount of zen it shows on the website does not reflect what you have in c-points in the game. you can still log into STO and see your current balance of c-points hasn't changed (unless you've spent some or bought more or exchanged, naturally). The Cryptic Store on the STO website also still shows the c-point total you have from in game still.

the zen balance which you're looking at on the account is the generic PWE currency before you assign it to a specific game.

 darkstarkirian 06-20-2012 06:02 PM

Quote:
 Originally Posted by sovereignman (Post 4307301) dividing by 0.8 is easier.
CP of object divided by .8

 poison 06-20-2012 06:04 PM

Quote:
 Originally Posted by paxfederatica (Post 4307231) To make matters worse, I had 1,000 C-points in my account before the changeover, so by that exchange rate I should have 1250 Zen. Instead I have... zero Zen. I hope this is all just a matter of PWE not having completed that part of the migration yet.
Zen is the "Master Currency" for Cryptic Games C-points are the "Game Currency". If you buy Zen you then have to change that into C-points (or Gold, or whatever it's called in whatever PWE game you want to put it in). Once it's changed into C-points, it's deducted from Zen, so if you have all your currency in a usable format in a game, you will have no Zen balance.

Zen is only for changing real money into currency A so you can then change that to Currency B,C,D,E etc.

They have an extra step so you pay and pull from one source for all games you play. But you have to actually assign it (in a one way process) to the game you want to spend it on.

Yes, I always found this system to be utterly useless.

 nynik 06-20-2012 06:04 PM

I would prefer if they completely moved over to the zen system, and take out this conversion process.

 kirksplat 06-20-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:
 Originally Posted by poison (Post 4307531) Zen is the "Master Currency" for Cryptic Games C-points are the "Game Currency". If you buy Zen you then have to change that into C-points (or Gold, or whatever it's called in whatever PWE game you want to put it in). Once it's changed into C-points, it's deducted from Zen, so if you have all your currency in a usable format in a game, you will have no Zen balance. Zen is only for changing real money into currency A so you can then change that to Currency B,C,D,E etc. They have an extra step so you pay and pull from one source for all games you play. But you have to actually assign it (in a one way process) to the game you want to spend it on. Yes, I always found this system to be utterly useless.
So the master currency isn't even a master currency at all? It's an annoying extra step?

 delsaberedux 06-20-2012 06:08 PM

Quote:
 Originally Posted by paxfederatica (Post 4307231) I hope this is all just a matter of PWE not having completed that part of the migration yet.
To put it mildly, yeah. Its hard to imagine a bigger PR stink waiting to happen than everyone losing their points all at once.

I feel bad for Cryptic in all of this. It's not like they can say no if PWE wants to migrate all of the old web tech and space bucks over to their system, but it's Cryptic's staff and their game that will take a lot of hits if anything goes wrong in that process.

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