Vorcha retfit or Negh'var?
I have the basic Vorcha at Captain, and am getting close to Rear Admiral and wondering what to get. Now, I am a canon kinda guy, which leaves me with the Vorcha refit or the Negh'var. Which should I get? I love my Vorcha, it's not too bad on the turn and is a tenacious little thing; but then the Negh'var is huge and has a crew of thousands. Hmmm...
I find the negh'var does ok with cannons, at least in pve. I put on a rcs console and combined with liberal use of reverse I find it fairly easy to keep my connons on the npc's.
I also think the negh is leaps and bound ahead in terms of looks and the little glowy red torp launcher on the back of the vor'cha brings up glowing red bum hole images in my mind for whatever reason which makes the negh even more appealing :P
That said I'm hardly a sto vet and pick ships much more for looks and feel than min/max efficiency
Both are great ships. The Vor'cha is a bit more fun for me because of its slightly better turn rate and extra tactical boff ability, but the negh'var is tougher and better looking, in my opinion.
Using 2 A2D abilities, mnay have made the Vorcha/Neghvar quite manuevarble in combat.
I would link the thread on the subject but it seems I no longer have it saved.
Here is a copy.
Both the Negh'var and Vor'cha are really nice cruisers. As you can tell by the BOFF and Console layouts, you can tell which part of defense or offense they slightly lean towards.
Klingon Cruisers tend to be more maneuverable than their Fed counterparts, and makes it alot more easy to bring weapons to bear on targets. The Vor'cha's 10 turn rate is the highest for any high tier cruiser in the game (correct me if I'm wrong, plz). The Negh'var is narrowly behind at 9.
The real question is if you want a slight difference in offense or defense. Offense, take the Vor'cha. Defense, take the Negh'var.
IMO, you really can't go wrong with either. A Vor'cha Refit is a rare sight these days at endgame, and I do miss seeing more of them. Hell, even the Negh'var is rare. But the Vor'cha was the backbone of the KDF cruiser force during the Dominion War, and you'd expect more of these things around.
I prefer the BOFF layout of the Vor'Cha.
That being said with the Negh'Var I'd consider an Aux to Battery Build with some Technicians to speed up recharges.
EPtS1 > Reverse Shield Polarity > Aceton Beam (PVE only) > Aux to SIF
EPtS1 > Aux to Bat > DEM
EPtS1, A2B, EPtS1, EPtW1
High Maneauver build really works...
I'm used to using a 2 tac team 2 epts build and keeping the shields up facing the enemy - taking the hits to the face as it were.
With a high maneuver build the enemy miss you so often and with the bonuses vs damage u can just soak the hits that do get to you.
Anothing I noticed with this build my cannon dps seemed to be double or better....than what I've been used to on the old builds...I'm only using 3 Tac boost consoles..:eek:
Thanks bitemepwe! :D
When someone says big ships are slow and unwieldy - they are doing it wrong! :D
I took the Neggie as I wanted to go full out engineer tank and wanted a little more survivability. I really enjoyed it. I did eventually get a Bortasu War cruiser but it seems to perform similarly.
Because of this thread, I took my KDF engineer and acquired the Vor'Cha Refit. Honestly, I missed the ship since the game first came out. The handling of the Vor'Cha is ridiculously wonderful, though since the Negh'var is 1 point less, it can't be too bad.
The beauty of the traditional Klingon-designed Cruisers is that maneuverability. I surprised alot of Escorts in PVP when I can show that I can turn rather well and present 4 DHCs, 4 Turrets into their faces with a dose of CRF1 and tough shields.
The maneuverability, survivability, and firepower of the Vor'Cha and Negh'Var were refreshing to experience again. For "vanilla ships," they're superior to alot of other ships (premium or not). Both, IMO, have found a wonderful sweet spot in combining the 3 traits. Again, you can't go wrong with either, but I felt like I was cheating when I took up a Vor'Cha again since I haven't touched the type since Tier 4 so long ago.
Another wonderful thing I felt was that by flying around a Negh'Var or Vor'Cha, you're flying around canon Star Trek ships, shown from the actual TV shows. In these days of STO, both these ships are seriously underrepresented by KDF players.
I've been playing around with a DPS Vor'Cha for my Sci since Elite STF's are such a DPS chase.
So far here's my build.
Fore: 2 DHC, 1 DBB, 1 Quantum
Aft: 4 Turret
Full KHG set
Tac: 3 AP relays
Eng: 2 Mk XII blue RCS consoles, 2 neutroniums
Sci: 2 Field Generators
Eng. Comm: Acton III, AUD II, EPS II, EPS I
Eng. Lt. Comm: EWP I, EPW II, ET I
Sci. Lt.: ST II, PH I
Tac. Lt.: CRF I, THY I
Tac. Ens.: BO I
Turns almost like an escort. Thinking of replacing the DBB with another DHC and the BO with a TT. Need some more rare borg salvage to waste first.
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