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aytanhi 07-26-2012 05:37 AM

Why are these exploits still around #2
 
First thread got deleted, posting a second thread with updated footage from today.

Videos showing the exploits in the game from the day I started to record them.

These exploits have existed since season 1, and has received no attention at all from the devs.

Please edit the thread if you must moderators, but please do not delete it until a developer responds with a solution.

Log-off Exploiter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex5WtMTJkmo

AFK Players in PVP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPIIjOmT8vM

Log-off Exploiter From earlier this week

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KynOqXDSM9s

AFk players from the same fleet from today (A fleet farming PVP matches for Dilithium together is a new low imo) Lol! A new way to pvp, Premadefarm!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJfH27o5QkY

Posted in PVE section, because this problem is rampant in PVE as well.

mikewendell 07-26-2012 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by aytanhi (Post 4966751)
First thread got deleted, posting a second thread with updated footage from today.

Maybe they're deleting it so that other players who weren;t aware of the exploits become aware of them and use them?

edit: As an aside, I;m seeing afk'ers who I;ve assumed to also be farmers in the events. Not sure what good that will do them as the fleet marks are not transferable and have to be returned back to Cryptic.

Unless they plan on selling ready made starbases....

nynik 07-26-2012 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikewendell (Post 4966941)
Maybe they're deleting it so that other players who weren;t aware of the exploits become aware of them and use them?

edit: As an aside, I;m seeing afk'ers who I;ve assumed to also be farmers in the events. Not sure what good that will do them as the fleet marks are not transferable and have to be returned back to Cryptic.

Unless they plan on selling ready made starbases....

Wow, thats interesting and disturbing.

aytanhi 07-26-2012 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikewendell (Post 4966941)
Maybe they're deleting it so that other players who weren;t aware of the exploits become aware of them and use them?

edit: As an aside, I;m seeing afk'ers who I;ve assumed to also be farmers in the events. Not sure what good that will do them as the fleet marks are not transferable and have to be returned back to Cryptic.

Unless they plan on selling ready made starbases....

Why delete it when you can just edit the revealing material out?

Read and critically analyze the post first before stating something so blatantly obvious, captain.

drasketo 07-26-2012 07:17 AM

For the first video, the Starfleet Dental tag was a dead giveaway he would be doing something hes not supposed to. Only reason those people play the game is to harass/annoy/troll others.

rooster75 07-26-2012 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by aytanhi (Post 4966751)

You've said in chat during this vid that afk'ers are why STO PvP is failing. Perhaps you should focus less on what others do and concentrate more on what you're doing as a player. Maybe your teammates saw no reason to fight since you were spawn camping and stomping your opponents and winning so easily? Maybe they got bored and saw no reason? Honestly, I see no reason for you to complain in this instance.

While I'm not a fan of log-off exploiters I couldn't help but notice that nice AMS console on your bugship. Seriously, do you need this stuff to win? Maybe your opponents got tired of being spammed with that P2W crap? Is it not bad enough that your bugship is far superior to anything your opponents were flying in that match? You're probably a very good pilot but it saddens me when people feel they need to use these things to win. That, ultimately, will hurt PvP more than anything you have described.

pointedears 07-26-2012 08:19 AM

just fyi starfleet dental are goonswarm from eve online, so if you see these jokers in a pvp match just leave.

markhawkman 07-26-2012 09:10 AM

AfK is the SLOW way to farm PvP! the quick way is to have your teams not use shields or armor. that way you can do a full PvP match in 5 mins, and finish the PvP daily in 30 or less. Heck I once had a L39 Sci char(Pulse/Sniper) shoot holes in 2 VAs this way. Yes my captain lacked shield too. Technically I lost, but I got most kills.

drasketo 07-26-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rooster75 (Post 4969391)
You've said in chat during this vid that afk'ers are why STO PvP is failing. Perhaps you should focus less on what others do and concentrate more on what you're doing as a player. Maybe your teammates saw no reason to fight since you were spawn camping and stomping your opponents and winning so easily? Maybe they got bored and saw no reason? Honestly, I see no reason for you to complain in this instance.

While I'm not a fan of log-off exploiters I couldn't help but notice that nice AMS console on your bugship. Seriously, do you need this stuff to win? Maybe your opponents got tired of being spammed with that P2W crap? Is it not bad enough that your bugship is far superior to anything your opponents were flying in that match? You're probably a very good pilot but it saddens me when people feel they need to use these things to win. That, ultimately, will hurt PvP more than anything you have described.

So ... you think that an aoe 5 sec sensor jam is a good enough excuse to start cheating? In cause you havent noticed, slotting a c-store console requires a console slot, the more they have, the easier they go poof.

Give it 5 more minutes or so and youll probably be on here saying that "OH MY GOD, you have mk 12 weapons, that TOTALLY justifies them exploiting bugs! How pathetic are you that you need that to win??!?! REAL men pvp with Mk I common plasma turrets."

azerdraco 07-26-2012 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by drasketo (Post 4972921)
So ... you think that an aoe 5 sec sensor jam is a good enough excuse to start cheating? In cause you havent noticed, slotting a c-store console requires a console slot, the more they have, the easier they go poof.

Give it 5 more minutes or so and youll probably be on here saying that "OH MY GOD, you have mk 12 weapons, that TOTALLY justifies them exploiting bugs! How pathetic are you that you need that to win??!?! REAL men pvp with Mk I common plasma turrets."

Dude, quit the whining. There isn't enough cheese to go around anymore. Mice are starving all over the world because of PvP whiners crying on STO.

The only reason ANYONE plays PvP is because they want the challenge of fighting another player. If that player goes the P2W route and cheeses console abilities, then it gets annoying, especially when they refuse to go 1v1 with anyone.

A good alternative: If you want to have actual rules with your PvP, seek out others that desire the same thing and join one of them. Caution, some of these blanket rules can make a PvP build fairly hard to pull off.

If you want to just PvP, be aware that there are good players that use no Z consoles, and there are crappy players who rely on them. The vast majority, however, fall inbetween those extremes.

Oh yes, and to all the Starfleet Dental trolls: Please find another bridge to play under. This one has already been claimed by REAL players.


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