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apocryphai 09-07-2012 05:27 AM

Starbase Special Projects are poor quality.
 
EDIT: darkstarkirian has pointed out that this has already been mentioned in another thread and a dev responded saying it's being addressed. Therefore I apologise for the angry tone in my original post (which follows) and say thanks to the devs who'll be fixing this :)

I am in a small UFP fleet. Our starbase is still Tier 1, inching slowly towards Tier 2. As the weeks have passed we have collectively decided to install a few of the time-limited Special Projects, e.g. the bar upgrade and this weeks one, the Enterprise timeline display.

We have, unfortunately, been deeply unimpressed with the quality of these visual upgrades and think that Cryptic really should consider improving these or offering refunds to fleets who have made the mistake of installing them.

For example, the bar upgrade is extremely lackluster. Look at the bottles on the shelves in the bar. One bottle shape with four different colours? How long did it take someone to design that? An hour? Two? No other decorations of note, a very boring circular bar with no embellishments or variation. This is shoddy, unimaginative and amateurish.

Now let's have a look at this weeks 200k dilithium project - the historical display of the Enterprise. I've got some pictures to illustrate the poor quality of this project since mere words can't describe how terrible it is.

First, have a look at the poor rendering of the text on the bottom of the 1st picture:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31210803/st...9-07_00003.jpg
The others aren't as bad as that, why is that one unreadable and pixelated? Bad font rendering?

Second, take a look at the classy way that the tops of all the pictures clip into the surrounding frame. Did the intern responsible just not have enough time to do a professional job? Or did they have no pride in their work?
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31210803/st...9-07_00004.jpg

Finally, and this is the 64 million dollar screw-up, just have a look at the positioning of the last frame in the series. Especially in relation to a certain other element in the Starbase.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31210803/st...9-07_00005.jpg
Anyone else notice that the view is slightly obstructed by being completely behind a giant plant? Either this simply wasn't tested with any other starbase decorations enabled or the poor, overworked and underpaid intern didn't give a monkeys.

Seriously Cryptic, this is amateurish, shoddy, lackadaisical, lazy, ham-fisted, cheap. The F2P market has never been more crowded than it is right now. You guys have a LOT of competition out there. You need to raise your game and stop treating your customers like idiots or you're going to find that they just take their money elsewhere.

rohirrim 09-07-2012 05:42 AM

+1 This was hugely disapointing

realmysticg 09-07-2012 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apocryphai (Post 5617251)
I am in a small UFP fleet. Our starbase is still Tier 1, inching slowly towards Tier 2. As the weeks have passed we have collectively decided to install a few of the time-limited Special Projects, e.g. the bar upgrade and this weeks one, the Enterprise timeline display.

We have, unfortunately, been deeply unimpressed with the quality of these visual upgrades and think that Cryptic really should consider improving these or offering refunds to fleets who have made the mistake of installing them.

For example, the bar upgrade is extremely lackluster. Look at the bottles on the shelves in the bar. One bottle shape with four different colours? How long did it take someone to design that? An hour? Two? No other decorations of note, a very boring circular bar with no embellishments or variation. This is shoddy, unimaginative and amateurish.

Now let's have a look at this weeks 200k dilithium project - the historical display of the Enterprise. I've got some pictures to illustrate the poor quality of this project since mere words can't describe how terrible it is.

First, have a look at the poor rendering of the text on the bottom of the 1st picture:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31210803/st...9-07_00003.jpg
The others aren't as bad as that, why is that one unreadable and pixelated? Bad font rendering?

Second, take a look at the classy way that the tops of all the pictures clip into the surrounding frame. Did the intern responsible just not have enough time to do a professional job? Or did they have no pride in their work?
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31210803/st...9-07_00004.jpg

Finally, and this is the 64 million dollar screw-up, just have a look at the positioning of the last frame in the series. Especially in relation to a certain other element in the Starbase.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31210803/st...9-07_00005.jpg
Anyone else notice that the view is slightly obstructed by being completely behind a giant plant? Either this simply wasn't tested with any other starbase decorations enabled or the poor, overworked and underpaid intern didn't give a monkeys.

Seriously Cryptic, this is amateurish, shoddy, lackadaisical, lazy, ham-fisted, cheap. The F2P market has never been more crowded than it is right now. You guys have a LOT of competition out there. You need to raise your game and stop treating your customers like idiots or you're going to find that they just take their money elsewhere.

I wholeheartedly echo my fleet mates sentiments.

I would also add that:
  1. They are hardly "special" projects if there is a new one every fortnight or so.
  2. If they are not already then the costs for these items should be scaled to: Members in Fleet x Cost Per Fleet Member = ITEM COST. From what I have seen they cost every fleet the same and this is simply a shambles.

sandormen123 09-07-2012 05:52 AM

By them Gods. I am so glad that I haven't added that project to the queue. Stupid as I was I was to quick to add the tribblers... ...then the bar...
Thankfully, they'll propably not be finished in quite some time.
Where is our change-of-mind-button? Please? Pretty please?

:mad:

anazonda 09-07-2012 05:56 AM

Well... I WAS going to assign this project...

Now... not so much

sandormen123 09-07-2012 05:58 AM

I wonder, what about some frigging interactive lounge furnitures of some sort.
I know these are digital avatars, but some of us actually pretends being lazy standing up all the time.

mattjohnsonva 09-07-2012 06:00 AM

Well we have added this and I do say i like the look of the pictures, adds a real ST atmosphere to it, much like the opening sequence of Enterprise showing all the ships to bear the name.

The artists on STO are some of the best in the business and I am genuinely surprised at the images you have shown us, so thanks for that. This definitely needs to be addressed. There may be some technical reason to explain the poor text quality and perhaps even the clipping, but to sight a huge freaking great plant pot in front of the star picture is frankly laughable and just proves that the QA in this game is virtually non-existent. I am sure Taco will not be pleased.

cusashorn 09-07-2012 06:00 AM

Wow, that is just plain stupid.

darkstarkirian 09-07-2012 06:07 AM

To the OP:
Quote:

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...1&postcount=51
Quote:

Originally Posted by robdmc
The top boarder of most of the ships are cut off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwebranflakes (Post 5607591)
The team is working on a fix for this.

Cheers,

Brandon =/\=

Quote:

Originally Posted by robdmc
While there is a lot of space beside the HMS Enterprise but the other side of the new Enterprise - F and flag ship of the fleet is put behind a potted plant.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crypticttc (Post 5608281)
There should be a fix for this in the pipe as well.


Quote:

Originally Posted by realmysticg (Post 5617411)
.[*]If they are not already then the costs for these items should be scaled to: Members in Fleet x Cost Per Fleet Member = ITEM COST. From what I have seen they cost every fleet the same and this is simply a shambles.

No, that is easily exploitable by small fleets.
New Featured Project shows up, All but the Fleet leader leaves the fleet, Fleet leader pays the "discounted" amount to get project running, invites everyone back.

defalus 09-07-2012 06:09 AM

How about a game of spot the difference with these two Ent-A pictures:

A
B

One of the most iconic ships in the ST universe and they can't even get the basics right.:(


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