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farmallm 09-18-2012 03:24 PM

K'Vort - Escort or Cruiser?
 
I see most of the Bird of Preys type ships are escorts for fast flying. Which the K'Vort is based off on design looks. However they are shown as a large ship slow moving and called a "Battle Cruiser". So how will this work on the game?

I see it as a Cruiser type, with the wings stuck out. And maybe moving up for warp? or just leave them out.

If they build it as a Cruiser, I will be sure to buy one for my Klingon to use.

Here is a pic of the K'Vort with the wings out.

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/ar...enterprise.jpg

lordcorrino 09-18-2012 06:11 PM

K'Vort would make an excellent Fleet 5.5 BOP. It is roughly the same size as the Hegh'ta.

misterde3 09-19-2012 12:06 AM

While the K'vort is as long as the Hegh'ta, ships are 3-dimensional.
Calling the two ships the same size is not quite correct.
The K'vort is actually a lot more massive.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/740...akvortcomp.jpg

total wingspan is wider and the wings themselves are thicker.
The Hegh'ta is mostly as long as the K'vort due to its long neck.
The K'vort has a much more massive engineering section and a shorter neck as well as a bigger command module.
And the K'vort has bigger guns...not that this matter in STO ATM.

Let's also not forget they moved very much like cruisers in the shows...

*EDIT: @farmallm: it's not possible to hotlink to images on EAS, you only get a "blocked" message*

cidstorm 09-21-2012 08:10 PM

Good thread, due to its size I think it should be the cruiser built with bop style doff and consoles. Maybe that would be overpowered, bops are the one thing I have not done in STO, maybe escort doffs and consoles.

jkname 09-21-2012 09:44 PM

I'd say what a Heavy Raptor would have been had Cryptic not simply made stuff up to fill that niche.

lianthelia 09-22-2012 08:24 AM

Probably a cruiser, make it in game like a cruiser version of the bop.

4 fore and 3 aft weapons, a bit more agile and maneuverable than the vorcha, but to compensate less hull and maybe a bit less shields? Might be wrong but I would love to have some battle cloak on it like the other bops.

jellico1 09-22-2012 08:32 AM

According to cannon the kavort is a battlecruiser

Not that cannon means anything to STO

f2pdrakron 09-22-2012 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jellico1 (Post 5798201)
According to cannon the kavort is a battlecruiser

Not that cannon means anything to STO

Funny how Memory Alpha lists it on the Klingon Bird-of-Prey, along with the B'rel and the D12 and yes, its was mentioned as a Battlecruiser on "Yesterday's Enterprise" but only on the Alternative Timeline as in DS9 its clearly identified as a Bird-of-Prey (IKS Koraga).

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/IKS_Koraga

So according to canon the K'vort class is a Bird-of-Prey.

misterde3 09-22-2012 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f2pdrakron (Post 5798611)
Funny how Memory Alpha lists it on the Klingon Bird-of-Prey, along with the B'rel and the D12 and yes, its was mentioned as a Battlecruiser on "Yesterday's Enterprise" but only on the Alternative Timeline as in DS9 its clearly identified as a Bird-of-Prey (IKS Koraga).

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/IKS_Koraga

So according to canon the K'vort class is a Bird-of-Prey.

Even in "Yesterday's Enterprise" it was referred to as both: as Bird of Prey by Riker and as Battlecruiser by Picard and Wesley.

So "Bird of Prey" in this context is the term of a shape.
Since the show predates STO it makes no sense to apply STO terminology to it.

In addition since the Galaxy class was not particularly different, sans a few details, why should the K'vort suddenly be an entirely different kind of ship in this timeline?

lianthelia 09-22-2012 01:02 PM

Why can't it technically be both? Its a BoP in shape...but the size of a cruiser?

Like i said above, give it a 4/3 weapon load out, give it the turn rate of somewhere just above or below a vorcha. Give it less hull and a bit lower shield modifier than a vorcha.

Could make a fun little ship...might need some more tweaking beyond that but its a idea and a start.


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