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crosfyer 09-30-2012 10:22 PM

Question: How Far Can Enemies See
 
Seem's like a trivial question, but what is the distance it takes before enemies notice you're there. If you really must know why I want to know this, it involves the Foundry.

akalayus 10-01-2012 12:37 AM

Don't know about ground enemies, but space seems be to just under 10 km.

hevach 10-01-2012 06:59 AM

Since it's for the foundry, there are ways in the foundry to block enemy view without hiding them. I don't know all the tricks they use, but I've seen invisible walls used for that often, but a few missions I've played that doesn't seem to be the case, since I can approach and fly/walk around among red map dots, but can't target or fight them until some dialog or interaction. It'd be best to ask in the foundry section to see how other authors have done that.

nicha0 10-01-2012 11:04 AM

Limit in the game mechanics means the enemies can ALWAYS see you, they know you are there, cloaked, far away or not. Enemies are just not allowed to attack you while cloaked, however if they get set off on agro they'll beam straight for you ignore the rules of engagement. It happens in ground often, in space less but you can still see it.

anazonda 10-01-2012 11:18 AM

About a year or so back, Gozer indicated Aggro range was 15 KM... though that seems to have decreased.

hevach 10-01-2012 01:25 PM

I think that's the range they disengage at - it's always been possible to get at least inside of the 10km firing range before being engaged.

anazonda 10-01-2012 01:57 PM

The words Were "15 km is aggro range". Not "Escape range".

crosfyer 10-01-2012 04:14 PM

I know there are ways to use invisible walls, but , I had the idea that you could run overhead enemies and they not see you. but make it where they'll attack you if you fall from where you're running, so invisible walls aren't an option for that.

I probably should have mentioned it was for ground purposes.

lordmalak1 10-01-2012 04:19 PM

There's a particular mission where an asset must be destroyed, and a guard ship is about 2 KM behind it. I snipe at the asset about 9km away but stay outside 11 km from it's guard, and when the asset goes boom the guard continues it's nap like nothing weird it happening.

I just turn and leave with the mission complete.

lordfuzun 10-01-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anazonda (Post 5910151)
About a year or so back, Gozer indicated Aggro range was 15 KM... though that seems to have decreased.

Aggro range is different from perception range. Agrro range dis how far you need to get before your are removed from the threat tables of the NPCs. (i.e. They no longer consider you a target).In space it's roughly 10 km. But it depends on the ship type(s). Science ships have slightly longer perception ranges.

On the ground is more complicated. Perception range depends on teh facing of the NPCs. Forward facings have "normal" perception. To the rear facing they have much reduced perception. With a bit of stealth (doesn't have to be perfect), you can sneak up on an NPC from the rear and get into melee range. And now you know one of the reasons that NPC spawns on the ground run around and stand in different directions when the stop. ;)


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