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sophlogimo 10-05-2012 04:51 AM

Player traits
 
What do you guys think - how large is the influence of space traits on a space or ground battle? Obviously, everything else being equal, the selection of the space traits will tip the balance - but by how much? Will a team with 4 space traits each always defeat a team with no space traits, in a space battle? How about teams with 3 ground and 1 space trait vs 4 space trait-teams?

captkirrahe 10-05-2012 05:10 AM

I'm sure the bonus to defence and the accuracy trait will make a difference in the long run.
Result changing?
I don't know, but it probably would be easier to have the Ground and Space traits equally available. Like 4 Each? That way a ground based character does not lose as much space potential and vice-versa. imo

matteo716maikai 10-05-2012 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by captkirrahe (Post 5961181)
I'm sure the bonus to defence and the accuracy trait will make a difference in the long run.
Result changing?
I don't know, but it probably would be easier to have the Ground and Space traits equally available. Like 4 Each? That way a ground based character does not lose as much space potential and vice-versa. imo

yeah, its weird how they completely revamped the skill tree, then forced us to take ground points yet leave the captain skills the way they are -_-

virusdancer 10-05-2012 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sophlogimo (Post 5961031)
What do you guys think - how large is the influence of space traits on a space or ground battle? Obviously, everything else being equal, the selection of the space traits will tip the balance - but by how much? Will a team with 4 space traits each always defeat a team with no space traits, in a space battle? How about teams with 3 ground and 1 space trait vs 4 space trait-teams?

Would you build the same without the traits or do you tweak your build some because of them? Some may run with the traits and stock build for the bonuses they feel they get from that while others may tweak their builds because of them - point here and there...etc, etc, etc.

Would everything else remain equal then?

Another variable for the equation... theorycrafting fun, fun, fun!

trueprom3theus 10-05-2012 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by matteo716maikai (Post 5961221)
yeah, its weird how they completely revamped the skill tree, then forced us to take ground points yet leave the captain skills the way they are -_-

Mr. ministry of truth dstahl said we may get a captain traits respec in couple seasons. But if that's like the pvp promises...

trueprom3theus 10-05-2012 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sophlogimo (Post 5961031)
What do you guys think - how large is the influence of space traits on a space or ground battle? Obviously, everything else being equal, the selection of the space traits will tip the balance - but by how much? Will a team with 4 space traits each always defeat a team with no space traits, in a space battle? How about teams with 3 ground and 1 space trait vs 4 space trait-teams?

I think the influence is... quite large :P

sophlogimo 10-06-2012 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by trueprom3theus (Post 5962211)
I think the influence is... quite large :P

Could you elaborate on that?

orondis 10-06-2012 01:50 PM

Someone with the elusive and accurate trait will be able to dodge shots and land hits better then an opponent who has none.

Take two escorts, both similarly skilled, equipped and both with ACCx3 weapon. Now one has the elusive and accurate trait while the other doesn't.

The escort with the traits (escort#1) will have a bonus defense as if they've equipped 2 piece AEGIS set (+10 bonus defense), effectively reducing the escort#2's weapon mod to ACCx2. Meanwhile the accuracy trait will increase the escort#1 weapon mod effectively to ACCx4. That doesn't just mean there's greater chance to hit, it also means there's a greater chance there's an overflow resulting in a crit.

sophlogimo 10-06-2012 02:07 PM

Thanks, but I think the mechanics are clear. What I wonder is, how much of a difference does it actually make.

marctraiderz 10-06-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sophlogimo (Post 5961031)
What do you guys think - how large is the influence of space traits on a space or ground battle? Obviously, everything else being equal, the selection of the space traits will tip the balance - but by how much? Will a team with 4 space traits each always defeat a team with no space traits, in a space battle? How about teams with 3 ground and 1 space trait vs 4 space trait-teams?

Quite simple really, if you forgot 1 trait and it could be better, it could be better. If you neglect more of the aspects you can possible improve, then you will definately begin to notice, (or not, if you dont know any better)

I've always been for maxed out everything on my build, bad retraits, i simply releveled. Back in the days. And I still do it. Leveling a new sci toon, if you make a bad start, then why the hell bother optimize the rest of your build later.

If you dont have accurate nor elusive, thats basically a 20% accuracy difference. (or whateveR)

Just my 2 cents.


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