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tasila 10-15-2012 08:56 AM

Anti Rainbow Threat?
 
Hi i dont like rainbow plaYers in stfs.

Plz try Torpedos Front/Aft.

Use 1 DMG Type Like Tetryon/Polaron/Plasma/Phaser/Disruptor
U also can mix them with Hybridweapons for ur Type.

Dont use Beam Weapons Enhance Tactical Consoles they just enhance ur Beam Weapons on a lower Arc.

Use Tactical Consoles of ur DMG Type.
Bsp Tetryon/Dual Phased Tetryon = Tetryon Pulse Generator MK **.
Try Torpdedo enhance Consoles like Quantum or Photon.

Especaly give 120% not just 50!


I had 4 of ur People today in an STF Elite.

This shouldnt be a flame threat.

Its just the bad experiences i made today witch makes me Cry-.-.

adamkafei 10-15-2012 10:37 AM

There is a reason why consoles exist to boost all beam types, it's so that people can run proc-boats rather than maxing one energy types DPS and there is nothing wrong with that just remember if one of those procs on you you'll regret bashing them.

Cryptic are very fond of saying they're all for customisation and therefore they won't make any negative changes to this.

dank65 10-15-2012 11:00 AM

LOL proc (rainbow) boats..........


Ill take people who can do dmg over someone throwing silly procs any day.

ddesjardins 10-15-2012 11:18 AM

Common problem, simple solution. Change chat channels for a better "quality" of player. Public PUGS can be fun, and occasionally completed even at the elite level with all options.

Reposted from the Mirror Universe Forum:

Find a Better Game by Changing the Chat Channel

STO has a robust chat channel system available to all players. For the purposes of this example, I'll be talking about two channels - one public (anyone can join) and one private (you have to ask to be invited).

Public: PublicEliteSTF
Members: 3500+ (over 300 online at any time)
Purpose: For players looking to run Elite STFS with optionals.
Rules: (1.) Standard Invite Code Rules (see below) (2.) You should know what the Optionals are before you join. This is a chat channel for stf's only, and they actively discourage open conversations outside of stf's. It's partially moderated, meaning if you break the rules on invites, you can get kicked (rarely).
My Impression: Friendly, easy going group. You will miss optionals occasionally, as the players are often new. Missions are pre-planned with roles assigned.


PRIVATE: PublicEliteSTF
Members: 1200+ (30+ on at any time)
Purpose: Elite Player Only. To become a member you must read the rules.
Rules: (1.) Standard Invite Code Rules (see below) (2.) You must know what the Optionals. THIS CHANNEL IS ACTIVELY MODERATED, AND HAS A HIGH KICK RATE.
My Impression: A great group dedicated to professional STF runs; they discuss the games tactics, define roles before the start of the mission, and generally will not tolerate inexpereinced players. This channel is NOT for first time players.

Standard Invite Code Rules

To assemble games, we use a short-hand series of statements to invite players. One player will Create Private to set up the game (password isn't necessary), and then post a statement in the appropriate chat channel.

Example: LF3M CSE, sharpe for invite
Response to join: sharpe

LF3M - looking for 3 more players, etc.
CGE - Cure Ground Elite
CGN - Cure Ground Normal (all mission are basically abbreviations of the mission name and type)
CSE - Cure Space Elite, etc...

Sometimes they will be more specific: LF2M, CSE, Escorts Only to call out a specific need. The player who created the game will right click on your name, and Invite to Challenge Match

After the players have been selected, the person who created will usually post a closing line like this: sharpe full, thx all (this is a nice way of letting people know its closed).

So far this seems like common sense, and not so much as rules exactly. Here are the general rules shared by both channels:
  • Read the channels posting guidelines. If you ignore this and make mistakes, you will be banned.
  • Post only missions using the above code examples
  • Don't set up a new mission while 1 or more are already being offered.
  • Don't SPAM your offer every 2 seconds. Wait at least 20 seconds between postings.
  • Join codes must NOT be 3-letters of the same type, e.g. XXX, 777, ***
  • Join codes must not be profanity or anti-moderator, e.g. THRAX SUCKS (note: Thrax is a moderator, and likely very grumpy)

Note: PublicEliteSTF has very rigid rules that are enforced. In addition to being one of the best places to pick up games with GOOD players, it also has it's own BANNED thread on the STO forum with a second series of rules on how to get unbanned. Be nice, read the rules, and be sure you know your Optionals before you ask to join!




Quote:

Originally Posted by tasila (Post 6097721)
Hi i dont like rainbow plaYers in stfs.

Plz try Torpedos Front/Aft.

Use 1 DMG Type Like Tetryon/Polaron/Plasma/Phaser/Disruptor
U also can mix them with Hybridweapons for ur Type.

Dont use Beam Weapons Enhance Tactical Consoles they just enhance ur Beam Weapons on a lower Arc.

Use Tactical Consoles of ur DMG Type.
Bsp Tetryon/Dual Phased Tetryon = Tetryon Pulse Generator MK **.
Try Torpdedo enhance Consoles like Quantum or Photon.

Especaly give 120% not just 50!


I had 4 of ur People today in an STF Elite.

This shouldnt be a flame threat.

Its just the bad experiences i made today witch makes me Cry-.-.


Yes, rainbow boats get a bad rep. One problem with that argument - sci ships don't do much in terms of concentrated dps - so weapon grouping and choice of type are irrelevant. Thier best use are as shields shredders, repair, rifts, subsystem attacks etc. My scitoon focuses just on shields as an example, and can strip a tac cube in under 20 seconds. The time it takes for the team to down it substantially drops. DPS aside, I'd rather have at least 1 sci toon healing and stripping shields for me.

Admiral Thrax (no, not the eliteSTF Thrax, the Other One)

tenkari 10-15-2012 01:15 PM

keep in mind 1 thing as well. the new chroniton temporal double Beam in the lobi store fires multicolors in one beam.... i've heard stories of people callin people using this rainbow boats. Esspecially if they use Fire at will with it. Though you can only have 1...

so just make sure things are your calling the right people rainbow boats.

bluegeek 10-15-2012 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamkafei (Post 6099071)
There is a reason why consoles exist to boost all beam types, it's so that people can run proc-boats rather than maxing one energy types DPS and there is nothing wrong with that just remember if one of those procs on you you'll regret bashing them.

Cryptic are very fond of saying they're all for customisation and therefore they won't make any negative changes to this.

No, they aren't going to disallow "rainbows". And I use generic consoles myself occasionally, but understanding that they are less effective than the more specific consoles.

Plus there are diminishing returns on multi-procs. Procs aren't guaranteed, and the more weapon types you use, the less likely any one proc is to fire.

Personally, I think I'd mix two energy weapon types at most, depending on what effects I'm going for. I'm less picky about projectiles and mines, as those are weapons of opportunity anyhow. Please note that's my attitude toward science vessels and possibly certain cruiser builds... I'm rather more in agreement with the majority about escort builds.

maddog0000doom 10-15-2012 03:12 PM

i think if u ignore a player it will not que you up with that person again try ignoring all the rainbow boats

ferdzso0 10-15-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddog0000doom (Post 6104491)
i think if u ignore a player it will not que you up with that person again try ignoring all the rainbow boats

I thought that as well, but no, this is not how this works sadly

baudl 10-15-2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamkafei (Post 6099071)
There is a reason why consoles exist to boost all beam types, it's so that people can run proc-boats rather than maxing one energy types DPS and there is nothing wrong with that just remember if one of those procs on you you'll regret bashing them.

Cryptic are very fond of saying they're all for customisation and therefore they won't make any negative changes to this.

yeah but the reason (still think 99% of rainbow players lack reasoning) is flawed. Gimping the little dmg they have even further.
if the beam consoles would buff the same % as type specific consoles, then it would be ok...but they do not.
and since the gate or all transformers will not care about the amount of shield you will drain, or what subsystem you will disable...atleast 2 weapon type procs are already a waste.

lol, a proc boat...atleast i had a good laugh before going to bed.

marc8219 10-15-2012 04:42 PM

If you want multi procs use hybrid weapons. No reason to ever use rainbow anymore now that these are out and cheap on exchange. Procs aren't all that reliable in STF besides disruptor breach though, best to just use all [Borg] disruptors, you can't ever go wrong there.

Also isn't the private STF channel just called EliteSTF and not PublicEliteSTF? I am a member of the PublicEliteSTF channel that doesn't require invite and the EliteSTF channel that does require one, not sure if there is another channel also called PublicEliteSTF that does require invites to get in.


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