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gangere 11-17-2012 07:44 AM

Seriously?!?!?!
 
What the heck is with this new reputation system?? a couple STF runs, and then 5 DAYS of doing NOTHING to get to the first tier? I'm at the top of the gear I can get with EC and Dilithium on most of my guys, and I want to move forward, but now there's this HUGE wait time, while I can do NOTHING to advance. Oh, sure, I can gather stuff for further "assignments", which I have to wait for anyway. On top of that, the first tier is even worse for a wait, and it looks like the top tier, where the gear I need is, would take FREAKING MONTHS!!!!!

I stopped playing WoW because of the stupid emphasis on reputation building to even get the gear to start running heroics, which I need to get into a raid. At least, with WoW, I have something to work on daily to get somewhere. This is just "take half an hour to do our STFs, then wait 5 days to do anything else." Seriously? You want me to wait around on my butt doing nothing?

Looks like I'm going back to WoW to waste my free time. This is just totally BOGUS.

xantris 11-17-2012 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gangere (Post 6648871)
What the heck is with this new reputation system?? a couple STF runs, and then 5 DAYS of doing NOTHING to get to the first tier? I'm at the top of the gear I can get with EC and Dilithium on most of my guys, and I want to move forward, but now there's this HUGE wait time, while I can do NOTHING to advance. Oh, sure, I can gather stuff for further "assignments", which I have to wait for anyway. On top of that, the first tier is even worse for a wait, and it looks like the top tier, where the gear I need is, would take FREAKING MONTHS!!!!!

I stopped playing WoW because of the stupid emphasis on reputation building to even get the gear to start running heroics, which I need to get into a raid. At least, with WoW, I have something to work on daily to get somewhere. This is just "take half an hour to do our STFs, then wait 5 days to do anything else." Seriously? You want me to wait around on my butt doing nothing?

Looks like I'm going back to WoW to waste my free time. This is just totally BOGUS.

It's just as well. chances are you max out your captains ship in a week or two, get bored of not having anything left to work for, and quit anyway

sinistermind4 11-17-2012 12:30 PM

I agree that this reputation system is CRAP. Everyone worked hard to get toons to level 50 and now have to work even harder to get reputation stuff. Why do we have to level our toons twice just to get things we already had. I think PW should think about what they are doing to their players!

nnite 11-17-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sinistermind4 (Post 6652161)
I agree that this reputation system is CRAP. Everyone worked hard to get toons to level 50 and now have to work even harder to get reputation stuff. Why do we have to level our toons twice just to get things we already had. I think PW should think about what they are doing to their players!

I dont think the Reputation is crap, but replace old stf reward system was bad, I mean, reputation could be na add-in for the system, keep the old stf reward system and use the reputation point to get some "new" set, as fleet weaps could be also a "new" set.

anyway

foundrelic 11-17-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nnite (Post 6654071)
I dont think the Reputation is crap, but replace old stf reward system was bad, I mean, reputation could be na add-in for the system, keep the old stf reward system and use the reputation point to get some "new" set, as fleet weaps could be also a "new" set.

anyway

The problem with the old system was that people were playing STF's, sometimes for nearly as long as they've been in the game and STILL not getting the MKXII item drops.


I can speak from experience on this, I hit 50 ten days after I started playing, ground out Elite STFS and did not get a SINGLE prototype drop for the MKXII gear.


Meanwhile others were getting the drops on their first run.


This system eliminates the chance factor.



While I agree the amount of time needed to get through it is a little ridiculous (Since when do small projects take more time than big ones?) with some tweaks this system can be made a lot better.

marielang 11-17-2012 03:27 PM

sane idea for insane devs
 
2 little 2 late uesd to get drops blue quality or better we kept the fleet bank stocked with good items for people who had just joined or leveld up. used to get salvage that could sell for extra dilithium. btran no longer had dilithium reward. dof and other dilithium cost have jumped up over 1000% in some places and the star base still has 200,000 dilithium upgrade missions. This is Like Being ***** and Afterwards Having the Rapist Say Hes Real Sorry Here Have a Free Morning After Pill. you have still gutted this game and I think you will see it soon in you bottom line profits. all you had to do to make the old system work was to let mk12 omaga/maco/honor. be pruchesed for 100 or 150 edc's each. the old saying goes KISS Keep It Simple Stupid.

captainbrady 11-18-2012 02:56 AM

Agree totally with the OP. What I'm sick of is the trolls who insist that everything that PWE does is perfect, and the rest of us are a bunch of crybabies. Makes me suspect these are just people working for marketing. All companies do this to make a sense of opposition, when there is none at all. I work for an online travel agency, and I know for a fact that our marketing department uses sock accounts to post flattering things about our company. If you think PWE doesn't do the same, you probably have been consuming large amounts of bleach and should lay off it for a while.

eurialo 11-18-2012 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by foundrelic (Post 6654211)
The problem with the old system was that people were playing STF's, sometimes for nearly as long as they've been in the game and STILL not getting the MKXII item drops.


Until season 6 you need a bit of luck, but it wasn't so difficult having at least a mk XI set. May be you had to try several times to have a prototype borg savage or tech but old stf had a better drop and in a few week you had your mk XII set.

Now one stf drops just some dilithium, nothing more. You also need about 2 months to complete tier 5 reputation, and you are forced to play a lot of stf, fleet action and daily missions to get several king of marks, dilithium and EC... At the end of this new job, toy will have to pay a lot of dilithium to have your set. Do you think this is easier or better? I do not think so. The idea is good, not how it was achieved.

We need a little step back... PW should raise the dilithium reward in stf and add some items drop (put it as reward for optional), also increase dilithium and drop rate in fleet action and dailies... The reputation system, the fleetbase system and the embassy are high resources demanding... The one who play just 2 hour a day is damaged from all the job they have to do.

hereticknight085 11-18-2012 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by gangere (Post 6648871)
would take FREAKING MONTHS!!!!!

4 to 6 to quote the devs.

khamseenair 11-18-2012 07:14 AM

Personally, I like and dislike the reputation system all at the same time. It has it's merits in that it removes the random chance of getting the drops, but it goes the opposite way in that it removes the instant gratification of lucking out and getting a reward, and replaces it with a 9-5 shift for pennies.

The duration of the 'projects' needs to be reduced... drastically.


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