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darkshadowsto 11-20-2012 12:34 AM

Bug : Enemy Neutralization Kit inflicts friendly fire
I noticed a new odd behaviour of the Enemy Neutralization kit MK X in some recent ground stf runs post season 7.
And yes, there are still people trying to do them.
In a cure ground elite run, our group detected, that the chroniton mine barrier or transphasic bomb placed by one player, blows up every other mine barrer / or bomb placed by other players in the blasting area.
This is really bad for an engineer trying to protect one of the transformers, who usually drops a mine barrier and a bomb to fight off approaching waves of borg and really rely on the knock back effect of the bomb and the damage of the mine barrier.

With season 7 it changed, if both mine barrier and explosives are placed on the ground, an approaching borg triggers the mine barrier which also let the bomb explode/vanish without doing damage at all... *yay*

It gets way worse if another engi was kind enough and helped mining or planting an additional bomb bacause the first triggered mine barrier just wipes out all other defences.

I really would want to know if this behaviour is working as intended or if it is another bug from season 7, like the non working tachyon harmonics etc, because it really limits the use of the engineer class in ground stfs. There wasn't anything announced related to this in the various release notes, so I really hope this is only another bug.

defalus 11-20-2012 12:49 AM

I've noticed this behaviour as well. While it makes sense that one explosive would set of other explosives close by, I don't think that this is how it is intended to work in game.

tmune 11-20-2012 07:56 AM

I've had this too, I read this earlier and thought nothing of it, then I started to see it with my own bombs. :(

defalus 11-20-2012 12:29 PM

I noticed during an stf I just did that the bomb is also detonated by plasma fire patch from a friendly plasma grenade (as in thorwn by a teammate). I think in general, friendly AoE is setting it off prematurely.

applejack8 11-25-2012 11:17 AM

I have this issue as well. Own placed transphasic bomb is denoted either by a teammate placed bomb, own mines triggered by mobs, and teammate plasma grenades.

darkshadowsto 12-01-2012 09:12 AM

With private PvP matches available again we did some more extensive testing, the explosives automatically detonates if an enemy gets closer than 3m, but of course only with a really low detonation damage making it rather useless.

There is also a really easy way to make the bombs invisible and undetectable by enemy players.

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