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paxottoman 11-26-2012 03:54 PM

Subsystem Repair VS Viral Matrix Math with Pax
 
Alright, so we ran some tests in accordance with what Borticus said about Subsystem repair.

A) We found that human passive +20 to subsystem trait does not work.
B) Viral Matrix indeed does in fact countered by points in Sub system repair.
C) Completed a test with the following results:

Six points aka 84 points into subsystem repair gave a 15 second clearance from a Viral Matrix with 84 points and no additional modifiers to the Viral matrix.

Without points into Subsystem repair, the Viral lasted for a total of 22 seconds.

We calculated the diminishing returns on subsystem repair in the event it was at 99 points.

Find "S" subsystem repair with 99 points in it.

Z={84x2)-69
Z=(168)-69
Z=99

Y=99/168
Y=0.59
Y=59%

X=17.75seconds/30seconds
X=0.59
X=59%

15seconds off is 84 points
S=15+(15-17.25)
S=15-2.25
S=12.25 off Viral with 84 points in it.

S=12.25 seconds to clear Viral with 6 points. A total of 9.75 or just say 10 seconds off the effects of Viral Matrix in terms of comparing to someone that does not have points in subsystem repair.

We also found out that the viral doff that procs, adds an additional 2 seconds to the viral matrix effect. We did not have time to test the effects of subsystem repair, but I would guess it scales the same way minus the decompiler effect.

All tests were conducted with 100% crew.

We concluded that in order to add more of a dynamic feel to it, and without making viral over powered as it appears on these findings we suggest the repairing the human passive "+20 to Subsystem Repair." It is also not recommended to spec into sub system repair if you're running an escort in a team setting as your crew is dead majority of the time and you will not benefit from the points.

Relying on your team mates for engineering team is ideal, but may not be enough with the new spread to other ships doffs.

We ran a test on that as well, but it was more of an organic flow. As in we did not stop and check things as we did with the subsystem repair. However, during the match which was frapsed, vs 3 science ships using the new doffs green quality, I was viraled for 40% of the match duration. Our team ran 2 copies of Engineering team, with their respective doffs to reduce cool downs.

I'm interested in everyone's conclusion in TRH's findings.

Thanks

shimmerless 11-26-2012 03:57 PM

Just to add since I've been testing Subsys Repair myself for a while now, it does cut into phaser procs as intended. With six points, phaser procs last barely 2 or 3 seconds for me (I think the default is 5). I also run one space Nurse DOff due to the aforementioned problem with your "crew" constantly committing suicide. Sometimes the DOff seems to take a while to proc but it does help a lot.

thishorizon 11-26-2012 04:02 PM

people busted on that space nurse doff for a bit....

i have found it really helps cut down the phaser proc times, just like shimmer said.

gotta give a heads up to my man Justin@broken1981 (i hope i got that right) for the heads up on that great find.

have fun kill bad guys

dontdrunkimshoot 11-26-2012 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxottoman (Post 6802071)
A) We found that human passive +20 to subsystem trait does not work.

was there ever any doubt? i wont believe for a second this does anything until its actually listed as a space trait

broken1981 11-26-2012 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmerless (Post 6802151)
Just to add since I've been testing Subsys Repair myself for a while now, it does cut into phaser procs as intended. With six points, phaser procs last barely 2 or 3 seconds for me (I think the default is 5). I also run one space Nurse DOff due to the aforementioned problem with your "crew" constantly committing suicide. Sometimes the DOff seems to take a while to proc but it does help a lot.

so your nurse doff works? wtf mine never works. but yeah this is the reason on my escourt ide put 6 points into sub rep. the nurse ( when woriking) is awesome.

thishorizon 11-26-2012 04:39 PM

dude it works, i told you it did.

hell, i even mentioned you.

devorasx 11-26-2012 04:41 PM

Interesting finds...

mrkollins 11-26-2012 04:48 PM

Good to know

broken1981 11-26-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thishorizon (Post 6802871)
dude it works, i told you it did.

hell, i even mentioned you.

yes i know that part and ty capt. but the day after it came out there was a patch and she stoped regening my crew. do you mean to tell me she regens your crew? i dont see mine in combat going back up. when it did work for me i loved this doff. maybe its not insta regen anymore and just regens slowly? ill have to look. but it used to be the regen was so fast that in 2 secs i was at 75% crew with a blue.

shimmerless 11-26-2012 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broken1981 (Post 6803071)
yes i know that part and ty capt. but the day after it came out there was a patch and she stoped regening my crew. do you mean to tell me she regens your crew? i dont see mine in combat going back up. when it did work for me i loved this doff. maybe its not insta regen anymore and just regens slowly? ill have to look. but it used to be the regen was so fast that in 2 secs i was at 75% crew with a blue.

I think I originally got the idea from you a long while back Broken, so I do owe you my thanks.

I've noticed that the DOff has been buggy lately too, it started about the same time a few weeks ago when I just straight up couldn't equip my blue onto Active Space. Like... the DOff was there, and it was definitely (?) the space nurse, but she just would not budge. My first guess is that they've accidentally flagged it the wrong way around with one of the latest stealth patches, so the regen procs outside of combat rather than inside.


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