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ruinsfate 12-12-2012 04:14 PM

Romulan T4 - Shield Heal or Placate?
 
They're both chance on a chance, so neither seem all that brilliant. I'm not sure which to pick. Any advice, anyone actually tried these out?

(Before people ask profession, this is for both a tac and a sci, and later an eng and another tac, so general comments are also useful.)

f2pdrakron 12-12-2012 07:29 PM

Neither, one will be nerfed because BAWW PvPers dont like it and the other will be nerfed because BAWWW PvPers dont like it.

Pick one, both will suck.

Oh I thought it was the Omega Shield heal ... well anyways I assume the Placate will be nerfed so I would go with the shield.

foundrelic 12-12-2012 11:30 PM

I went with the Placate. a 20% on crits seemed like a no brainer since, in my Tactical vessels, I crit (And crit HARD I'm proud to say) at an extended rate of once every four seconds.



the other one, the secondary shielding has a 2.5% chance to activate I think it was (No matter what it is it's less than 20%). Yeah, Pass.

vesolc 12-13-2012 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by foundrelic (Post 7063481)
I went with the Placate. a 20% on crits seemed like a no brainer since, in my Tactical vessels, I crit (And crit HARD I'm proud to say) at an extended rate of once every four seconds.



the other one, the secondary shielding has a 2.5% chance to activate I think it was (No matter what it is it's less than 20%). Yeah, Pass.

No. Its also 20%. Omega Graviton Amplifier is 2.5%.

I went with shield heal.

mrcaton1 12-13-2012 05:08 AM

I just logged on to ask the same question. I fly a HEC, and typically go with offensive powers, so I'm hesitant to pick the shield heal. Plus, I picked the Romulan T2 increased crit chance, which would of course mean I placate more often. Also, I use CRF all the time, which I guess would give me a chance to placate multiple ships when fighting mobs. The chance is only 2.5% for energy weaps and 5% for torps, if I remember right, so that's not a big chance compared to the 20% chance to heal shields when hit with a critical.

I also use covariant shields, which means a 10% shield heal for all quadrants means a little bit more shield heal than it would if I was using a shield with a lower cap.

I can't decide. Please, someone, provide us with wisdom.

fulleatherjacket 12-13-2012 05:17 AM

I'd take the shield heal. I have the temporal, assimilated and romulan consoles that boost crit, plus the +3% crit from reputation and full skills in crits and my crit rating is 9%, not counting the individual crit rates of my weapons. With the placate passive, my chance to placate would be 1.8% for every hit. This is LAME. Plus the placate time is also lame. The shield heal has the benefit of having a higher chance to proc if you have more targets shooting at you. I'd rather have the higher chance of getting some shields back than a tiny chance for a placate that disappears two seconds after it procs.

Also, get the 1k shield heal every 6 seconds instead of the kinetic proc. Your shields will never ever go down again.

hereticknight085 12-13-2012 05:51 AM

As romulan rep goes, if you're a tac, go with the placate, I have it on my kdf tac, and man does it make life easier. Especially since it's not broken by damage. As for Engi and sci? Well the thing is, NPCs don't really crit that often. It's just more memorable when they do. So it's kind of a toss-up. Depends on how aggressive you are, and how aggressively you play. If you turtle and let things smack you (aka you use APD a lot), then I would go with the shield recharge. If you are an aggressive mofo (aka you use APB a lot), then go with the placate. If you're both (like me, and use both APD and APB copiously), then it's users choice. I still haven't chosen yet lol...

xantris 12-13-2012 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fulleatherjacket (Post 7066351)

Also, get the 1k shield heal every 6 seconds instead of the kinetic proc. Your shields will never ever go down again.

It's getting nerfed according to Brandon.

mrcaton1 12-13-2012 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 (Post 7067031)
As romulan rep goes, if you're a tac, go with the placate, I have it on my kdf tac, and man does it make life easier. Especially since it's not broken by damage. As for Engi and sci? Well the thing is, NPCs don't really crit that often. It's just more memorable when they do. So it's kind of a toss-up. Depends on how aggressive you are, and how aggressively you play. If you turtle and let things smack you (aka you use APD a lot), then I would go with the shield recharge. If you are an aggressive mofo (aka you use APB a lot), then go with the placate. If you're both (like me, and use both APD and APB copiously), then it's users choice. I still haven't chosen yet lol...

So the placate seems to work well for your tac? I wondered how noticeable it would be.

I'm kind of leaning toward shields now; thinking about getting caught in those STF crossfires and having some chance for a free shield heal. Still not sure though.

I haven't thought about the T4 Omega ones yet . . . Won't hit that until this weekend. I assumed I'd pick the kinetic damage one, but this thread is making me rethink.

persephone51313 12-13-2012 08:55 AM

Friend of mine reached T4 yesterday and had same dilemma, he ended up going with placate and loves it. According to him, in KASE, Donatra was never able to fire a shot at him (which leads me to believe that this power will end up getting nerfed) which basically negates the need for a shield heal. He's a tactical captain flying a fleet tactical escort retrofit if that helps.


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