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vitalityprime 12-31-2012 09:39 AM

Ship Upgrades
 
Do you need to always upgrade to a bigger ship?

If so...would purchasing a Commander rank ship from the Z store be a waste of ZEN?

Since you will need to "discard" it once you get to rank Captain or higher...

...or am I missing something here?

trahl 12-31-2012 09:49 AM

Correct.

The only reasons to buy one is you want an advantage for the short time you'll be in that rank, have a particularly favored ship, or want a discount on the fleet version later on.

vitalityprime 12-31-2012 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trahl (Post 7300861)
Correct.

The only reasons to buy one is you want an advantage for the short time you'll be in that rank, have a particularly favored ship, or want a discount on the fleet version later on.

That's a shame...there's a nice one for the Commander rank...but I guess I will just wait till I hit level 50 to purchase one.

vitalityprime 12-31-2012 10:10 AM

Would it be "certain death" to use a Commander Rank ship till you hit level 50?

mandoknight89 12-31-2012 10:45 AM

Yes, it pretty much would unless you already know the game. You're missing out on a lot of HP and Boff capabilities. The Heavy Cruiser (for example) has less hull than the Reconnaissance Science Vessel (the weakest Rear Admiral ship, hull-wise), and won't allow you to take advantage of your Commander-grade officer powers.

Also, you do NOT get discounts for fleet retrofits if you purchase a lower-tier version (the Commander Thunderchild does not give you a discount on the Fleet Akira, for example).

tom61sto 12-31-2012 11:08 AM

There is a small advantage in grabbing the lower-tier/rank C-Store ships, in that whatever console that comes with it can be taking off and put on the higher rank ships. The Thunderchild's Point Defense console is very handy, particularly when leveling a character, being able to put a lot hurt in several directions. The ship itself can be used for maybe one rank higher if you keep it well geared, but not beyond that.

sollvax 12-31-2012 11:25 AM

A commander rank ship CAN survive in mission play (episodes NOT STFS ) all the way up to Admiral

Do not turn up in one for PVP or STF at Ranks above captain you WILL die

but if you only run missions
no problem

age03 12-31-2012 12:18 PM

I have used the Thinderchild Cmdr ship in nm STFs and survived.you can use the Excelsior I imagine as well.

hereticknight085 12-31-2012 03:12 PM

MOST Cmdr rank ships won't survive in ESTFs. The Borg just do too much damage. One of the only ships I would dare even try it in is the Cmdr Excel, since it's pretty tanky, but tbh, I hate that ship, so I will stick to my Oddy and Chel'gret thanks much.

In normal STFs, you can win in a Type 8 Shuttle. That's how pitiful the enemies are. Also normals are facerolls requiring very little brainpower and only mk VI weapons. Basically Normal STFs are a joke, and should NEVER be used as a test on what works and what doesn't. And anyone who sticks to just normals shouldn't post on what works and what doesn't.

Is there a reason to grab Cmdr level ships from the C-store? YES. The unique consoles they come with are sometimes VERY awesome (especially on the KDF side). Other than that though, not really. You're better off getting a VA ship.

And for the record, you only get a discount on a fleet ship if you have the VA c-store ship, NOT the Cmdr level one.


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