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scarabpoet 01-01-2013 01:33 PM

DPS and You: What to expect...
 
STO is a great game. We all love it, and spend a lot of time playing it. But what about realistic dps expectations? We all know that escorts and raiders are designed to pump out as much damage as they can in as short a time as possible. Cruisers do less damage, but generally have more HP and survivability, while Science vessels can fill both rolls, depending on their build, Boff and Doff skill, etc. I have seen a Vesta out-dps a tac retrofit. (was impressive to watch too ;) )

There will always be Captains of every background that want to push the boundaries to see what they can accomplish, but there should be a baseline expectation. What is realistic to expect from the different classes of starship?

hereticknight085 01-01-2013 04:29 PM

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adamkafei 01-01-2013 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 (Post 7316071)
Eng-Science Ship = Medium to low damage output. Ability to tank well as a sci ship, ability to keep weapons and aux high, but not really a good idea. Downside is that most Engis aren't skilled to naturally increase sci damage, and have no way to amplify the sci damage other than flooding power to aux, which usually isn't enough.

I disagree with your statement from personal experience, I have an eng in a fleet Nova specced for a fleet Excelsior who can use the Nova to lock down a target and dish out a god 1500 DPH (about 6k DPV) when I max it out AND is a good enough tank to give the old Excelsior a run for its money through a combo of decent shield tank and superior hull tank.

hereticknight085 01-01-2013 11:13 PM

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baudl 01-02-2013 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 (Post 7319131)
And I disagree with your disagreement. I have an engi in a Fleet Recon Science Vessel. And even though it's amusing, it's not much more than that. You can drain well, and you can snare well, but overall you WILL fail in PvP with one of those, even despite your added tankiness. Because you can be an unbreakable brick, but that's all you'll be.

you know, that's exactly right for PVP...and personally i think an engi in a sci vessel works just great. lots of power can only work to the advantage of a sci ship. more aux power, the better most sci abilitys become...this combined with increased survivability is just what you need in pvp.
while you find it amusing to drain and shut down other ships, that is actually really effective too, and is a hell of an annoyance to others. And doing so with an engi or sci is no different. Both sci and engi can be quite effective in sci vessel, i would say both fill the spot perfectly, but with slightly different benefits for each. not better, just different.

an unbreakable brick, that crowd controls and shuts down enemy ship is a great asset for a PVP team...far from fail in my opinion. i mean you list basically everything a sci ship can do in pvp yourself, but you draw the conclusion that it is fail, this i can't understand.

hereticknight085 01-02-2013 11:37 AM

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hanover2 01-02-2013 11:42 AM

"I can't make my Engineer do big damage, therefore it is impossible."

:rolleyes:

hereticknight085 01-02-2013 11:46 AM

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wolfpack12c 01-02-2013 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 (Post 7324811)
Har har har... -.-

Actual purpose behind that was because Engineers are not intended as the primary damage dealers. That's the Tactical's job.

No that is an escorts job :)
And for the record do and alpha strike in a tac escort then do a fully buffed Att on a target you just sensor scanned and subnuked in a sciscort. Lol sci for the win

hanover2 01-02-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 (Post 7324811)
Har har har... -.-

Actual purpose behind that was because Engineers are not intended as the primary damage dealers. That's the Tactical's job.


There's too much overlap in the various equipment and abilities for the roles to be as rigid as you'd like to pretend.


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