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disposeableh3r0 01-18-2013 12:10 AM

Excelsior dreadnaught
 
So I was on tribble the other day and discovered that the romulan hyperplasma beam ability does not share a cool down with Beam overload.

And I got to thinking what if i slotted only this beam and a beam overload ability. This si what i was thinking...

Fleet excelsior

Weapons

Fore 2x single cannons, omega torpedo, romulan experamental plasma beam
Aft 2x turrets, kinetic cutting beam, Romulan experamental plasma torp OR
Fore 2x single cannons, Rom torp, Rom beam.
Aft 3x turrets, KCB

Full maco set...probably

eng. 2x rcs accellerators, Romulan console, Neutronium armor.
sci. Borg console, romulan plasma emitters console.
tac. 4x weapon type consoles...probably plasma

LTC tac
TT1, CRF1, BO3 sub a CSV1 for stfs
CMDR eng
EPTW1, DEM1,EPTS3,Aux2sif3 or EPTW1, Aux2batt1,ET3, EWP3
LT eng
EPTS1,RSP1 or EPTS1,Aux2batt1
LT sci
PH1,HE2
ENS eng
ET1 or EPTA1

By using cannons I ensure that my bo3 only uses the romulan beam, and since the romulan beam has no energy drain I wont suffer a weapons power drop when I fire it. I also gain the hyperflux ability for using the full romulan rep set so I get a free bo power that also causes an increased damage resistance debuff.

With 2 rcs consoles I can get about 18 degrees a second in turn rate and since only the torpedos are under 180 degrees I could prety easily keep my weapons on target.

Thoughts?

smokeybacon90 01-18-2013 02:04 AM

I don't think even 2 MK XII very rare RCS will get Excelsior to 18 degrees/sec. The RCS formula is:

(Base Turn Rate - 3) * RCS bonus percentage = RCS Accelerator bonus in degrees per second.

Apologies if I am incorrect, but I have assumed RCS on a cruiser (even the Excelsior) are a waste.

I would ditch both of them and get some Neutroniums. I would also ditch any copies of ET, which conflict with TT, and are made obsolete by Aux2SIF3 anyway.

disposeableh3r0 01-18-2013 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeybacon90 (Post 7531411)
I don't think even 2 MK XII very rare RCS will get Excelsior to 18 degrees/sec. The RCS formula is:

(Base Turn Rate - 3) * RCS bonus percentage = RCS Accelerator bonus in degrees per second.

Apologies if I am incorrect, but I have assumed RCS on a cruiser (even the Excelsior) are a waste.

I would ditch both of them and get some Neutroniums. I would also ditch any copies of ET, which conflict with TT, and are made obsolete by Aux2SIF3 anyway.

nah with high enough skills you get close.

Each one nets me about 1.9-2.0 degrees a second on a base around 14.

And Im only using purple mk XI's

weylandjuarez 01-18-2013 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeybacon90 (Post 7531411)
I don't think even 2 MK XII very rare RCS will get Excelsior to 18 degrees/sec.

Depends on whether you've invested anything in the Impulse Engines skill - my Excelsior turns at 21 degrees/sec ;)

disposeableh3r0 01-18-2013 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weylandjuarez (Post 7532991)
Depends on whether you've invested anything in the Impulse Engines skill - my Excelsior turns at 21 degrees/sec ;)

What are you using to get that?

weylandjuarez 01-19-2013 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disposeableh3r0 (Post 7546281)
What are you using to get that?

Maxxed skill points in Impulse Engines, some in Engine Power + 2 x purple Mk XII RCS Accelerators - got to run your Engine power level at a higher rate too I think to get the most turn rate - there's probably engines that could help too but I'm currently using the MACO Mk XII.

lasonio 01-19-2013 02:44 PM

i think the best turn rate was quarter impulse

huas31r 01-19-2013 07:17 PM

Romulan beam uses power when coupled with BO powers.

disposeableh3r0 02-04-2013 11:48 AM

So I got bored and tested this out in the sb234 mission on elite.

Averaging 2,500 dps.

using 3 mkxii plasma cannons and the exp beam array foreward
2 mkxii plasma turrets KCB and rom torp rear

the lobi time console borg console and rom console 1 mk xi rcs console and 2 mk xii rcs consoles

4 mk xi plasma consoles

fleet elite engine and deflector

maco mk xii shield

using bo3 apd1 and tt1
eptw1 epts2 x2 et1 x2 aux2damp2 aux2sif3
tss1 he2

hereticknight085 02-04-2013 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disposeableh3r0 (Post 7883341)
So I got bored and tested this out in the sb234 mission on elite.

Averaging 2,500 dps.

using 3 mkxii plasma cannons and the exp beam array foreward
2 mkxii plasma turrets KCB and rom torp rear

the lobi time console borg console and rom console 1 mk xi rcs console and 2 mk xii rcs consoles

4 mk xi plasma consoles

fleet elite engine and deflector

maco mk xii shield

using bo3 apd1 and tt1
eptw1 epts2 x2 et1 x2 aux2damp2 aux2sif3
tss1 he2

2500 DPS? That's a little low mate, especially for a single cannon build.


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