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thejosephine 01-25-2013 10:05 AM

Is PvP still only for the dedicated?
 
Coming back after a long break. (at least pre-reputation, maybe longer) Trying to catch up on many changes.


PvP was almost a joke when I left, with Pre-mades mercilessly stomping pugs, flinging every insult along the way. Console spam was the norm and supposedly expected gameplay. If you weren't flying an escort, you were a zombie-build of some sort.


Has the situation improved, or is it still the same festering pit of hate it was?

devorasx 01-25-2013 10:07 AM

Somewhat the same still, BUT there is a pvp bootcamp running to help new players improve.

bobtheyak 01-25-2013 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thejosephine (Post 7642921)
Coming back after a long break. (at least pre-reputation, maybe longer) Trying to catch up on many changes.


PvP was almost a joke when I left, with Pre-mades mercilessly stomping pugs, flinging every insult along the way. Console spam was the norm and supposedly expected gameplay. If you weren't flying an escort, you were a zombie-build of some sort.


Has the situation improved, or is it still the same festering pit of hate it was?

Dedicated, masochistic, self-loathing, whatever you want to call it.

dalnar83 01-25-2013 09:28 PM

It is, period.

snoge00f 01-25-2013 10:45 PM

If you want to find a team to play on:

/channel_join OrganizedPvP, and ask for a team.

The channel usually runs pugmades every day or so. They are a good way to get into the game and to make it less frustrating when you face up against a proper premade.

And as for the learning curve, there are lot of people here in the forums that can answer most of your questions. You can also ask in OPvP, but honestly you get more attention here.

scurry5 01-26-2013 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thejosephine (Post 7642921)
Coming back after a long break. (at least pre-reputation, maybe longer) Trying to catch up on many changes.


PvP was almost a joke when I left, with Pre-mades mercilessly stomping pugs, flinging every insult along the way. Console spam was the norm and supposedly expected gameplay. If you weren't flying an escort, you were a zombie-build of some sort.


Has the situation improved, or is it still the same festering pit of hate it was?

Hmm,

pugstomping - yep, still around. Don't really hear insults though, most are fairly civil these days. I also find that it's not as prevalent as most seem to think it is, though it could just be my timezone.

Console spam - still there, may have gotten a tad worse. Pets are more of a problem now.

Escorts/Zombie builds - not so much. Build diversity is a little better with the destroyers available now, and Sci debuff builds aren't really that rare.

Disclaimer: Based on pugging experience. I'm not in a PvP fleet, and I don't hook up with pugmades very often either.

cidstorm 01-26-2013 02:02 AM

So my comp broke down, how bad is the new romulan cloak power?

blznfun 01-26-2013 02:58 AM

All that and then add the fact they whine about nerfing everything because they can't get that easy kill no more with all the cool stuff Cryptic has added because they claim its "OP" in PvP when in reality, its not. They just don't want to change their tactics and adapt to the ever evolving state of the game. They want to remain in the past...

Nah you aren't missing much in PvP. Same old pre-mades, same old cheese and whine. They say they are helpful and want to teach you, but really, don't waste your time. They just want to add more fuel to the fire with Cryptic is all...

dalnar83 01-26-2013 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by blznfun (Post 7653441)
All that and then add the fact they whine about nerfing everything because they can't get that easy kill no more with all the cool stuff Cryptic has added because they claim its "OP" in PvP when in reality, its not. They just don't want to change their tactics and adapt to the ever evolving state of the game. They want to remain in the past...

Nah you aren't missing much in PvP. Same old pre-mades, same old cheese and whine. They say they are helpful and want to teach you, but really, don't waste your time. They just want to add more fuel to the fire with Cryptic is all...

That was a little rude...but considering your signature, hardly surprising.

cedricmaxwell 01-26-2013 03:16 AM

pvp is still ****
too many spam consoles like no one has ever seen before!
there are so many debuffs on you sometimes and you don't even know what exactly is debuffing you^^
and ye don't expect things to change...
cryptic adding broken or unbalanced things...people QQ and start whining....same old story


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