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umrathama 01-26-2013 02:04 PM

Jem'Hadar carrier ship requirment for Jem'Hadar attack ship fighter
I discovered after finally getting both the new Jem'Hadar ships that for some reason we are required to also some how also get the Jem'Hadar attack ship to get the new Dill store attack ship fighter.

Am I the only one that has a problem with this? Is this some error?

If it is not a bug or error, then why are we now required to obtain the impossible ship just to be able to acquire these Jem'Hadar attack ship fighters for the new Dread Carrier?

starkaos 01-26-2013 02:42 PM

Its not an error since it is listed on the dev blog for these ships. People that have obtained this ship are currently having problems with it since its not that good according to their reports.

bi9t 01-26-2013 04:20 PM

Dont worry about it, they are junk atm. Be glad you didnt waste the dil.

daedalus304 01-26-2013 09:47 PM

The Jemmy Dread and its Bug Hangar Pets
so yea, thought I'd make an official thread for it,

Why the hell are the only redeemable qualities of this fine dreadnought not acessable to all?

the jem'hadar attack ship hangar pets can only be obtained if you have both the dreadnought and the attack ship.

I find this redundant and quite honestly not worth getting the dreadnought in the first place, advice I wish I could give my past self.

the fighters we currently can obtain suck horribly both levels, Blue and purple they just plain suck, they dont even have torps.

the only redeeming quality of the dreadnoought is it can launch the attack ships, for gods sake the attack ship owners already have one of the rarest ships in game, that makes them lucky enough, just let those with the dreadnought alone load them.

trekie85 01-26-2013 11:01 PM

Agree, KINDA
Im going to try and be constructive about this, ok.. The bug ship hanger pets SHOULD be available to anyone who spent money on the dreadnought... /HOWEVER/ i still feel those who have the bugship should have a bonus for having it. The very simple sollution would be to allow the advanced ones to be purchasable only by the ones who have the jem bugship, but still allow the people who obviously spent the money and time to get the dread the ability to have the standard bugship for their hangers because in all seriousness the jem fighters (even the purples) are worthless, DEM is only good when you have MASSIVE dps, and DEM 1 is all but useless, right now even the basic peregrins out dps the purple jem fighters. Either please make a second pass at the fighters to have torps or SOMETHING or give usthe basic bugship please please. This is constructive feedback not whining so please, take it as such.:-)

basilisk51 01-26-2013 11:06 PM

I love the dominion made a character 3 weeks ago and started the game because this lock box was coming out. Now i learn this. This is so stupid, make them 100k dilitium or something but if they aren't changed me and my money are gone. I can't even hope to get the attack ship. But i don't see a point to starting this game if i can't enjoy things that only old players can get. Even worse i dont want the attack ship just some really cool carrier pets, i don't give a damn if they aren't good it would just be cool to be able to get some dominion frigate pets and farming 500mil ec for a ship i don't want will not happen. I am not gonna waste my time, don't get me wrong i enjoy the game but being penalized for not being some old member is stupid and i was going to buy a lifetime membership because i found i am already 1/3 of the way there anyways but this needs fixed or i am out

dwhornet 01-27-2013 12:08 AM

Actually I'm extremely disappointed with the carrier pets in general, my beams are going over 2000 damage a hit on a hull, and unless the fighters explode I usually see damage in the low 20's.


I'm not exactly sure whats going on but the AI seems borked also. As a novice carrier pilot maybe it's me. I hope this isn't the final state of the fighters because if it is, these fighters are really a P.O.S.

Please unlock them or remove them entirely. It's 30k dil or at today's dil prices $7.00 to buy a new set of pets for your carrier. I understand you guys need to generate revenue but exactly how is this wall achieving that goal?

bpharma 01-27-2013 07:20 AM

I've gone for adv peregrines on my dreadnought and the damage difference between them and the adv Jem hadar fighters is huge. Instead of a useless engineering ability they get quantum torps!

I agree we shouldn't be penalized for not owning one of the rarest and hard to get ships in the game ESPECIALLY when Federation players already have pretty poor pets (compare to BoPs and Fer'Jai frigates) that either die in seconds or couldn't shoot their ways out of a wet paper bag.

Maybe Trekie85 was on to something by saying about the adv version for Jem bug owners but then again the dreadnought costs 800 blooming lobi crystals, which is a hefty investment, surely that is enough.

daedalus304 01-27-2013 07:29 AM

so I see my thread was moved into here, at least someone is listening to the fact the Dev team or market team screwed up.

I agree the jemmy bug owners should get something, after all the uniqueness of the jemmy bug was the fact it was the first lockbox ship, not to mention one of the only player obtainable dominion ships. I would be pissed to find out that the last remark was no longer true I would.

but making the carrier pets the only thing? its still punishing both sides, for those with the jemmy bug alone and those with the dreadnought alone. only those lucky few who have both will get it and with the fact they have both makes them lucky enough.

give the jemmy bugs something actually worth it and usefull. like a new bug space set or a very special console.

robuille 01-27-2013 07:35 AM

SNAFU at the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship Hangar Bay!!!
Hi all. My name is Robuille and I own a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship. Why am I telling you this you might be wondering? Because I also own the new Jem'Hadar Dreadnaught Carrier now. You might be saying to yourself..., well..., so what? See the thing is, I own both of those ships but on two different characters. Still, I own both ships so I should be able to buy Jem'Hadar Attack Ship hangars for my Jem'Hadar Dreadnaught Carrier, right?


Now let me get this straight..., both ships are extremely different from each other so each requires an entirely different skill tree spec to optimize its performance. So even if I were to own both ships on one character, any time I wanted to switch ships I would have to pay for a new respec token?!? And seriously, if one of my characters has the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship, WHY WOULD I WANT TO FLY ANOTHER SHIP AND ESPECIALLY ONE SO DIFFERENT?!?!?

So to get the special Jem'Hadar Attack Ship hangar bay unlock under the current terms of the promotion, I'd either have to buy one of JUST 6 Attack Ships that are left on the exchange for OVER 400 MILLION EC on the one character I just unlocked the Dreadnaught..., or I could take the one character that I don't want flying ANYTHING BUT my Jem'Hadar Attack Ship, buy him the Dreadnaught and respec him anytime I want to fly the Dreadnaught on the off and TOTALLY ABSURD chance that I get tired of flying my bug.


Is this Cryptic's way of unveiling their new sadistic sense of humor?

Now that we know how upset I am, and I'm sure the other Jem'Hadar Attack Ship owners feel the same way, I offer a solution. If a character on an account owns the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship, the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship Hangar Bay should be unlocked for the entire account and usable only on the Jem'Hadar Dreadnaught Carrier. Reasonable solution? I think so.

I don't think this was an intentional attempt to piss us all off. I think it was an oversight and a good idea that never made it to the critical thinking stage of development. You guys just shipped it out without giving any thought to how the "unlock" policy might affect the player. Now the players are screwed and the players would like to know if you plan on fixing it?

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