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petaluma1 01-28-2013 10:02 AM

Obsolete Ships.
 
I'm a Tac Officer and I own almost every ship in the Fed Fleet other then Fleet level Ships and I want to discharge some of them to make room in my ship inventory for the new ships coming out next month. What ships are now considered OBSOLETE?

I know of course all lower level ranking ships but what about all of the T5 ships?

stardestroyer001 01-28-2013 10:45 AM

Exploration Cruiser Retrofit
Long Range Science Vessel Retrofit
Dreadnought Cruiser

Just a few off the top of my head - I still use my Dreadnought, but only because I like the design.

baudl 01-28-2013 10:50 AM

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...I own almost every ship in the Fed Fleet other then Fleet level Ships...
basically every ship you own then is obsolete, salvage the consoles from the is the only thing you should do before deleting them. they are not deleted for good anyway since you can reclaim the ships you bought anytime.

f2pdrakron 01-28-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stardestroyer001 (Post 7687051)
Exploration Cruiser Retrofit

Yes, replaced by the Odyssey.

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Long Range Science Vessel Retrofit
Yes, replaced by the Vesta.

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Dreadnought Cruiser
I have to kinda disagree on this, even if the Galaxy-X have problems its pretty much the only Federation cruiser that can mount cannons (even if it cannot really use then well due to low tac stations and turn rate) and nothing else come that can replace it.

Also as listed were Zen Shop ships you can freely discharge then as if you own then, you can always reclaim then and there is some merit of then at Fleet version.

I would say the Patrol Escort is the one that been made utter obsolete as the Blockade Runner have better stats that even its Fleet version, were only the BO layout slightly differs but still I rather have 2 Lt. Eng BO stations that 1 Lt. Eng and 1 Lt Sci BO station as the Ens Uni does not make much difference.

Of course the Blockade Runner is part of the Steam pack and you have to buy it on Steam but still, it just outclasses the Patrol Escort.

stardestroyer001 01-28-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by f2pdrakron (Post 7687981)
I have to kinda disagree on [the Dreadnought being obsolete], even if the Galaxy-X have problems its pretty much the only Federation cruiser that can mount cannons (even if it cannot really use then well due to low tac stations and turn rate) and nothing else come that can replace it.

Also as listed were Zen Shop ships you can freely discharge then as if you own then, you can always reclaim then and there is some merit of then at Fleet version.

I would say the Patrol Escort is the one that been made utter obsolete as the Blockade Runner have better stats that even its Fleet version, were only the BO layout slightly differs but still I rather have 2 Lt. Eng BO stations that 1 Lt. Eng and 1 Lt Sci BO station as the Ens Uni does not make much difference.

Of course the Blockade Runner is part of the Steam pack and you have to buy it on Steam but still, it just outclasses the Patrol Escort.

Yes, but I've seen a bunch of people who are of the opinion that the Dreadnought has been made obsolete by the Vesta. Other than the tanking ability, I'd have to agree, the Vesta has the same abilities (and more - Aux cannons!) and has a better turn rate and shields. Granted, I still fly my Dreadnought as my primary ship, but it's effectively made obsolete in almost everything it was originally made to do.

I agree with the Blockade Runner Retrofit, it's a far superior ship, besting some of the other escorts. I'm still surprised by the potential of this ship.

orondis 01-28-2013 02:10 PM

Pretty much all the original cruisers and sci-ships. The original "free" escorts are still serviceable though, though they're beginning to show their age "age", especially the patrol escort.


Assault Cruiser - Was more or less obsolete when the Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit came out. With the Fleet Assault Cruiser and Fleet Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit, the assault cruiser is a dinosaur and a joke of a DPS cruiser.

Star Cruiser - Made obsolete by the freebie Odyssey and the c-store one.

Galaxy retrofit - Has never been a good ship really, it's saucer separation console being a gimmick with a 5 min cooldown. It's shields and hull are now below cruiser standard and coupled with it's turn rate it's just a big fat target.

Galaxy-X - It was always a hit and miss ship even when it finally got it's fourth rear weapon slot. It's poor turnrate and tactical boff stations make it pretty weak in comparison to the fleet sovereign and fleet excelsior. Yes you can fit the thing with dual heavy cannons, but with single cannons and 2x cannon rapid fire the other two do far more sustained damage. The D'kora and Galor also do a better job as a DPS cruiser.

Deep Space Science Vessel and Recon Science Ship - Were pretty much obsolete with the release of the Long Range Science Vessel Retrofit, but with the release of the Nebula, Atrox, Vesta and all the fleet sci-ships, there's very little reason you'd want to fly the original T5 ships. While it's starting to look a bit old in the tooth compared to the newer ones, the long range science vessel retrofit can still keep up.

hereticknight085 01-28-2013 02:17 PM

If it it isn't a fleet ship/have 10 consoles get rid of it.

farmallm 01-28-2013 06:17 PM

I don't get out my low tier ships often. I might once in a while for a little cruise around the block. I still use my T5 Negh'Var and Sovereign classes that you got for free. They are not the top of the line, but still get the job done.

cmdrskyfaller 01-28-2013 06:28 PM

The Nebula tier 5 became the equivalent of a tier 3 in performance after the science nerfs post- F2P.


That ship needs a major overhaul. The fleet version of it is upping the tier 3.. where is the tier 5 fleet version?

Its supposed to be a sci ship with cruiser capabilities not a junky science ship with consoles that have never been of any use.

matridunadan1 01-28-2013 10:52 PM

Thanks to the glut of science, escort and carriers, pretty much all cruisers are going the way of the dodo.

Impressive to look at, but unless you min/max your build you are just a space whale waiting for the Pequod.


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