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astrospider 02-22-2013 08:39 AM

Andorian 3 Pack: An Accertation
 
Hey all!

After some extensive trials with the new Andorian 3 pack ships yesterday. Even though I was battling the healing and shield bug. I managed to get some good data about the ships themselves and their consoles.

Phasers. The Andorian ships are based around phaser damage. Even though there are three consoles and one weapon. All the special abilities you get with the consoles are based on having the wing cannons equipped.

With the advent of recent rumors of the elite fleet weapons being phaser. The prices for high level phaser relay consoles have gone through the roof. So if you are in the position to refit the ship with brand new fleet phasers and dump a lot of ec into the phaser consoles, you are one of the lucky few.


What concerns me the most about this pack is. It doesn't live up to the hype. The abilities mechanics are cumbersome and gimmicky. They share a cooldown with all your bridge officer abilities and in no way shape or form do the same damage, as lets say rapid fire 2.

After parsing the data for the whole day on the dps of the new boats some numbers came up startlingly low. The wing cannon platforms are absolutely useless. They do a couple of hundred damage over the course of one STF. Based off other pets in the game, for example the JHAS wings or the elite scorps, they do about 1/5th of the damage.

I spent $50 on this pack. Because I felt that with this pack, Crytpic, would finally put escorts back on top for overall damage. But this is not the case. The Ships fall way short of the Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier. And the JH Dreadnaught with 4 wings of scorps, the polaron set, and the right power management doffs is doing almost twice the damage.


I have to say I'm left a little winded and dejected. And I honestly wish I never bought the pack. But I guess I will put it down to a lesson on not believing the hype.

Carriers win this battle.


Proto.

mandoknight89 02-22-2013 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by astrospider (Post 8253091)
With the advent of recent rumors of the elite fleet weapons being phaser.

They're not rumors.
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Originally Posted by astrospider (Post 8253091)
Because I felt that with this pack, Crytpic, would finally put escorts back on top for overall damage

Tell that to top-geared Defiant or JHAS captains. It takes a lot of work to out-DPS a well-built escort.

astrospider 02-22-2013 09:07 AM

It realy doesn't.

Let me give you the top STF dmg dealing set in this game.

Dreadnaught carrier.
Two sets of Elite Scorps. - do between 3.5 and 5k dps
Jem'Hadar 2 piece space set mxii - +13% Polaron dmg
OMEGA Deflector - +17.5 Targeting Systems
6 x Fleet advanced polaron beam arrays dmgx3 crth
Cutting Beam - + Power
Zero point module/Assimalted console/tacheo Kin = 2.76% crit
3 x Rom Tacs = 6% crit
4 x mk xii very rare polaron consoles
2x embassy plasma infused arrays = 2.5% chance to cause plasma dot

BFW 3 + BFW 2 >cannon rapid fire>scatter volley
BOA 3 + BOA 2 >cannon rapid fire(alpha strike)
Also with the BFW spec, when well positioned, is un beatable
2x PTW
1X Aux to Bat
1x hazard Ems
1x Transfer shield

Warfare specialist doff - +10% dmg
3x reduce attack patterns OR 3x buff applied based on battery used
1x reduce recharge on all batteries by 80%/100%


This is unbeatable. There isin't a escort in the game that can match the added dps of the carrier elite scorp wings. They might be able to match the boat, but there is nothing out there that compares to the JHAS wings or the elite scorps.


This is fact. If you would like to see at first hand. Hit me up in game and we will take you into ISE and show you.

Protocol37(in game name)

astrospider 02-22-2013 09:12 AM

PS. I have a fleet tac and the bug. Nothing in comparison to the JH-HEC or the JH-Dreadnaught.

john98837 02-22-2013 09:20 AM

Elite fleet weapons are phaser only, its not a rumor, was confirmed several months ago and I haven't seen any sign they are going to change there mind: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...1&postcount=11

And yes this andorian ship back is a complete disaster compared to the hype, i've stripped it of all the consoles and wing cannons and just moved my jem'hadar attack ship setup over with an extra DHC up front, still haven't decided if its worth using even like that. By my calculations the extra DHC up front gets you maybe an extra 300dps when you calculate in the loss of a 5th tac console, and that dps is at the expense of speed, turn rate, shield strength, and hull strength.

shar487a 02-22-2013 09:31 AM

I'm running 2 Elite Phaser DHC's on my Kumari, so as others above have quoted, they are not rumors. Stats are [Dmg]x2 [Acc] [SHeal] (the last mod is not listed, but it shows up as a proc in the tool tip).

Regarding spike damage -- the best of the new Andorian Consoles is the Phaser Dispersal Relay. It generates a 13k Cannon Overload phaser attack with a 4 second charge time.

astrospider 02-22-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by john98837 (Post 8254041)
Elite fleet weapons are phaser only, its not a rumor, was confirmed several months ago and I haven't seen any sign they are going to change there mind: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...1&postcount=11

And yes this andorian ship back is a complete disaster compared to the hype, i've stripped it of all the consoles and wing cannons and just moved my jem'hadar attack ship setup over with an extra DHC up front, still haven't decided if its worth using even like that. By my calculations the extra DHC up front gets you maybe an extra 300dps when you calculate in the loss of a 5th tac console, and that dps is at the expense of speed, turn rate, shield strength, and hull strength.

Hey!

I try not to believe "confirmations" until it's in game. The only reason why I fell for this new pack scam. Cause for pure healing and pure tanking the vesta and odyssey packs are number one.

astrospider 02-22-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by shar487a (Post 8254251)
I'm running 2 Elite Phaser DHC's on my Kumari, so as others above have quoted, they are not rumors. Stats are [Dmg]x2 [Acc] [SHeal] (the last mod is not listed, but it shows up as a proc in the tool tip).

Regarding spike damage -- the best of the new Andorian Consoles is the Phaser Dispersal Relay. It generates a 13k Cannon Overload phaser attack with a 4 second charge time.

Hey!!

4 second charge with about a 60k crit + 15 second global cooldown on all boff abilities + 3 min recharge = this ability is useless

The rumor is not about the And phasers. It's about the Elite Fleer weapons being only phasers.

stirling191 02-22-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by astrospider (Post 8254411)
Hey!

I try not to believe "confirmations" until it's in game. The only reason why I fell for this new pack scam. Cause for pure healing and pure tanking the vesta and odyssey packs are number one.

Considering there are people flying around with fleet elite phasers I don't see how you can get more confirmed than "it's already happened".

astrospider 02-22-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by stirling191 (Post 8254521)
Considering there are people flying around with fleet elite phasers I don't see how you can get more confirmed than "it's already happened".

They are not fleet Elite. They are fleet Advanced.


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