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qinnux 03-10-2013 02:20 PM

MACO X vs XII vs jemhadar
Im currently running on jemhadar set fro mstory missions - but perhaps its to upgrade/change things around. In 4 days i have T5 rep unlocked.

So i looked at the maco resilient gear - its good but.... is it?
The price for xii is insane (ignoring omega marks - just a matter of little farming) - the dilithium. Its more then 2x of the X version yet has very minor boost to it.

How would it compare to the jemhadar set (XI)?
Shields got 5% bleed/absorb and 10% all resist
In addition also kinetic resist and crew res/disable.

And the polaron damage bonus from set (sweep is somewhat useless tho).

So compared to maco X there isnt much of a advantage.

Would it be best to stick with jemhadar (since i already use phased polaron weapons) instead of wasting huge amounts of dil/bnp/omega for little bonus.

Upgrading jemhadar to xii unfortunately isnt really a option nether - lobi cristals for f2p is more or less inaccessible currency.

tom61sto 03-10-2013 06:33 PM

MACO Shields are pretty nice, the Mk XII are a pretty decent boost in capacity compared Jem Mk XI (+1727 per facing after captain skills and one shield cap console, and a Positron deflector can make the gulf larger). While they lack kinetic resist and crew disable resist, they do have the 5% bleed/absorb and 10% all resist on top of their other features. The MACO shields have a proc that boosts all your power levels, giving a boost to their own regen/resist on top of boosting your energy weapon damage and ship speed. If you're planning on continuing doing STFs, the MACO shield's 20% resist to plasma is quite useful.

As far as Mark, back when it was EDCs/drops for things most recommended skipping over Mk X and saving up for Mk XI. Mk XI to XII isn't huge, but still a nice improvement. I'm not quite sure where I'll end up with the toon I'm leveling currently, but the current plan is to skip over Mk X entirely beyond the go-faster in Sector space Borg drive.

Keep in mind if you keep the Jem Deflector and Engines on your ship you still get the damage boost to Polaron as that is the two-piece set bonus.

qinnux 03-10-2013 06:53 PM

the jemhadar shield has 5% bleed absorb and 10% all resist aswell.
So the difference would be the shield bonus.

+ need to wait for the big update... if they are gonna add new reputation + storyline (iconians) - id assume more stf-s also with completely different damage type so the 20% plasma might not be that useful anymore.
The borg drive is waste yeah - the maco drive has +13 warp boost instead of 14.. .but thats little difference.

tom61sto 03-11-2013 03:14 PM

The Borg Mk XI drive is much faster than MACO Mk XI in sector, I will have to look at the drive closer if Mk X isn't as good I'll skip over it entirely, probably grabbing Fleet engines instead until unlocking T5 Rep.

Even against non-Borg enemies the MACO Mk XII is still much nicer, thanks to it's much higher capacity and I think it has higher regen as well compared to Mk XI Jem'Hadar. The proc goes off quite often as you take damage and it stacks up extra power.

MACO set, particularly the shields and deflector, allow for a lot more tanking of damage compared to the Jem set. I tried the Jem Mk XI set on the Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier and nearly got rolled on the starting cube and spheres of Infected the Conduit Elite (same with just the MACO XII shields plus the Jem def and engines XI), whereas with the MACO shields and deflector I can tank the ending Tac cube fairly well (have to dip into my Engineering Captain abilities, though). In the end, I dropped the Jem entirely, even after switching to Polaron which would net me everything you get normally plus Victory is Life for having a Dominion ship.

age03 03-11-2013 04:37 PM

I like Omega.

tom61sto 03-11-2013 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by age03 (Post 8540601)
I like Omega.

Omega certainly has it's uses, though I personally actually don't like the random bursts of speeds at times. I did quite enjoy stripping shields with the two-piece set on my Sci, but now that I have a Vesta on that char, don't need much shield stripping when my cannons will do that for me for the most part.

There's also the option of Adapted MACO (aka KHG). If you like Covariant shields, want more torp damage, AoE +Defense/pseudo-cloak and/or need more Aux power, the Adapted MACO set can be quite nice as well.

dashuk2381 03-11-2013 10:25 PM

I like keeping the Jem shield/engine if I'm going to do 2 of the 3. I find the deflector worthless quite honestly. The bonus from the 3 piece set isn't that great and missing out on all that +SIF vs the other shields at end game to me is honestly gimping yourself.

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