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emoejoe 03-26-2013 04:42 PM

Its Here. Never Leaving. Fear the Cloak
 
Time come that yall recognize the tru powah! Hide attack NOOB.

stack the deeps and bring the pain!

decloak alphas have NEVER been fiercer.

if i can get 5 foos to try this ride for the last downhill sprint...

imma be gal x vapin you!!!!!!!!


Throw a lil rom boff, uni consolz, and raw skills into the pipe and smoke them !

so best prepare.. for the whirlwind

better fvk and pray all that wargames fail v fail didnt learn u all wrongthoughts

pack the cpb and fear the beeps!!!!!

those in the know gonna day 1 put on a show let the plasma fire glow.........

virusdancer 03-26-2013 05:06 PM

The juicy Fed snoozer, flying around, Shatner singing, "I am iron man," blasting through the speakers.

The KDF BoP decloaks and begins the attack...

...never to finish it, as it explodes.

The guy flying the Rom BoP says, "That's a pretty cool song," and blows the Fed up as well.

maicake716 03-26-2013 07:35 PM

i dont mind perma cloaked attackers, its their attacks that are cloaked i have the issue with.

that is broken.

virusdancer 03-26-2013 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by maicake716 (Post 8833631)
i dont mind perma cloaked attackers, its their attacks that are cloaked i have the issue with.

that is broken.

Where it's basically a MEF field and you don't know there's something coming your way or sitting there until the explosions...meh.

marc8219 03-26-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by virusdancer (Post 8831071)
The juicy Fed snoozer, flying around, Shatner singing, "I am iron man," blasting through the speakers.

The KDF BoP decloaks and begins the attack...

...never to finish it, as it explodes.

The guy flying the Rom BoP says, "That's a pretty cool song," and blows the Fed up as well.

Thing is I don't do the decloaking part and just stay invisible the whole time now so how is the Romulan going to do that when one of his fellow Romulans is being so kind to aid me on my ship and make it never reveal while firing. :D

virusdancer 03-26-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc8219 (Post 8833741)
Thing is I don't do the decloaking part and just stay invisible the whole time now so how is the Romulan going to do that when one of his fellow Romulans is being so kind to aid me on my ship and make it never reveal while firing. :D

It's something I've been wondering about with the Advanced Romulan Deflector. They can get the +2% Stealth Detection of the Jem Deflector - while also getting that +15 Stealth Value. So they could boost their Stealth Detection while boosting their own Stealth somewhat.

With that not being a "STF" level of gear - it's left me to wonder what the Romulan MACO/KHG equivalent would be then and if it would be something along those lines.

Somebody with:

9 Stealth (49.5 Stealth)
3x Stealth Consoles (45 Stealth)
Rom BOFF (100 Stealth)
125 Aux (75 Stealth)
Advanced Reman Deflector (30 Stealth)

On top of the base 4975 (unskilled/ungeared @ 50 Aux)...
...takes them to 5274.5 Stealth Value.

Now the person looking for them:

9 Sensors (148.5 SDR)
3x Sensor Probes (135 SDR)
125 Aux - SciVessel Cloaker (150 SDR)
125 Aux - nonSciVessel Cloaker (50 SDR)
Advanced Romulan Deflector (200 SDR)

Would be looking at a Perception of 5226.75 to 5316.75 without Sensor Scan or EPtA.

The nonSciVessel Cloaker would never see the first guy.
The SciVessel Cloaker (doubtful, think they'd do a Rom cloaking Sci Vessel?) could see the first guy at 0.845 km. Odds are against ever seeing the guy.

Course, if one of the Roms were to drop cloak at the time of the explosions on that juicy Fed target to Sensor Scan and EPtA1, they'd take their Perception somewhere between 5726.75 to 5776.75.

The nonSciVessel Cloaker could see the guy at 9 km.
The SciVessel Cloaker (would be kind of Evil, eh?) at 10km.

Perform Sci shenanigans to decloak the target and let the festivities begin.

Given that Nebulas are rare - few folks run Sensor Probes - etc, etc, etc - the odds are against the first guy actually having that high of a Stealth Value to begin with... so depending on what they do with Roms (if there is a cloaking Sci Vessel) - packs of Roms could do a pretty decent job of hunting down cloaked KDF.

Bah, forgot the Astrophysicist trait - course, that would only add 15 SDR or 7.5 Perception or 0.15 km detection range.

Given the standard unskilled/ungeared @ 50 Aux Stealth Value of 4975...my Fed Sci could detect them at:

15.66 km for 5s
14.66 km for 20s
6.44 km at any time

For the Stealther I listed earlier (5274.5)...he can detect them at:

9.67 km for 5s
8.67 km for 20s
0.45 km at any time (meh)

And that's not in a Nebula with either console.

My KDF Sci is not built for detecting cloakers. Still, one of the first things he does on decloaking to attack is Scan. 5263

He could see the 4975 guy at 5.76km for 20s.
He would never see the 5274.5 guy.

Course, all of that's without using QSM (all examples).

I've glitched Fed to hunt KDF hunting Feds in Ker'rat to complete the Kill10KDF since KvK pops are so rare. Yep, I've been slaughtered by a B'rel I've never seen. But it's rare. I can only think of two folks that I've come across doing that. Most B'rel folks tend to flicker. There also tend to be more folks flying a Hegh'ta, Fleet Norgh, or even the Fleet Hoh'Sus than a B'rel that I've come across. Or they're in a Peghqu', Tor'Kaht, even a Krenn, etc, etc, etc.

It will be interesting to see what they do with the Roms. Depending on what they do, I could definitely see building a stealth Sci to hunt cloaked ships.

marc8219 03-26-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by virusdancer (Post 8834721)
It's something I've been wondering about with the Advanced Romulan Deflector. They can get the +2% Stealth Detection of the Jem Deflector - while also getting that +15 Stealth Value. So they could boost their Stealth Detection while boosting their own Stealth somewhat.

With that not being a "STF" level of gear - it's left me to wonder what the Romulan MACO/KHG equivalent would be then and if it would be something along those lines.

I've glitched Fed to hunt KDF hunting Feds in Ker'rat to complete the Kill10KDF since KvK pops are so rare. Yep, I've been slaughtered by a B'rel I've never seen. But it's rare. I can only think of two folks that I've come across doing that. Most B'rel folks tend to flicker. There also tend to be more folks flying a Hegh'ta, Fleet Norgh, or even the Fleet Hoh'Sus than a B'rel that I've come across. Or they're in a Peghqu', Tor'Kaht, even a Krenn, etc, etc, etc.

It will be interesting to see what they do with the Roms. Depending on what they do, I could definitely see building a stealth Sci to hunt cloaked ships.

My tac isn't in a brel right now so cant check, but i remember my stealth is still somewhere over 5k, maybe 5.2kish? running only 50 power to aux with 3 ranks in stealth and a romulan rare male sci boff, and goes up by around 100 more when shifting all power to aux I think. Seems like I almost never get decloaked except by CPB or GW.

Might have been me doing that and you would never see me lol. I usually use lots of transphasics torps, mines, and cluster, sometimes a romulan torp too for fun.

zeuxidemus001 03-26-2013 11:49 PM

If there is one constant in this game its that if feds QQ enough they will get what they want.

Also the thing I wonder about with this new faction... It sounds like its based on romulan under D'tans leadership and the way he talks in the story he wouldn't have a single romulan risk their life and just have the federation and the kdf take all the losses and then hand them over to him. So I do not see how they will fit in them getting borg tech unless its just available without any grinding for little handfuls of EC.

virusdancer 03-27-2013 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeuxidemus001 (Post 8836171)
If there is one constant in this game its that if feds QQ enough they will get what they want.

Also the thing I wonder about with this new faction... It sounds like its based on romulan under D'tans leadership and the way he talks in the story he wouldn't have a single romulan risk their life and just have the federation and the kdf take all the losses and then hand them over to him. So I do not see how they will fit in them getting borg tech unless its just available without any grinding for little handfuls of EC.

There were "two-ish" Romulan factions in the game before the LoR announcement.

Romulan Star Empire - which had been led by Sela until her disappearance.
New Romulan Empire - led by D'Tan and Obisek.

Well, there are also the various Tal Shiar factions.

Those that might still be loyal to Taris even while locked up.
Those that might still be loyal to Hakeev even while dead.
Those that might still be loyal to Ruul even while locked up/dead.
Those that might still be loyal to Sera even while missing.
Those that might be following Khiana after what happened to Ruul.
Er, yeah - typical intelligence agency shenanigans, eh?

But players will be playing as part of the Romulan Republic. Their story sounds like it takes place during the events of 2409 during Sela's rule of the RSE and dealing with the Tal Shiar up through her disappearance and eventual return (did somebody help her escape or did she return at the Iconians' leisure?).

As such, the R3's (get it? Romulan Republic Romulans?) would have access to Omega gear, some form of Romulan MACO/KHG gear, adapted versions of that MACO/KHG gear, they'd have access to the Rom Rep gear, whatever comes with the Tholian Rep, etc, etc, etc.

Speaking of which, there will also be the crossfaction console goodies, eh?

That leaves me wondering if Gas Sensors can be used with an EBC... cause Gas Sensors are likely coming in the next box...hrmmm?

ludikro 03-28-2013 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emoejoe (Post 8830591)
Time come that yall recognize the tru powah! Hide attack NOOB.

stack the deeps and bring the pain!

decloak alphas have NEVER been fiercer.

if i can get 5 foos to try this ride for the last downhill sprint...

imma be gal x vapin you!!!!!!!!


Throw a lil rom boff, uni consolz, and raw skills into the pipe and smoke them !

so best prepare.. for the whirlwind

better fvk and pray all that wargames fail v fail didnt learn u all wrongthoughts

pack the cpb and fear the beeps!!!!!

those in the know gonna day 1 put on a show let the plasma fire glow.........

Hide Attack Noobs you say?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkSrOLDQKDM

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.


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