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captainobvious09 04-10-2013 04:44 PM

Best PVE ship for Sci ?
I have been saving my credits for a while, I am wondering what is the best "ship-in-a-box" for a Sci officer to to Elites.

I currently am running a Vesta, but the damage is really low, and one shot form a borg cube and I am toast.


malakhglitch 04-10-2013 05:01 PM

I also asked what a good end-game ship for a Science Officer was a couple of weeks ago and the most common suggestions were Vesta, Wells and Fleet Nova.

thecosmic1 04-10-2013 05:01 PM

The Vesta, with her cannon capabilities, is probably the highest DPS science ship in the game. I don't believe you'll find a science ship that can do more direct damage. Of course science ships aren't about DPS. They're about weakening from within through various debuff abilities - they weaken their foes so that their DPS hurt more.

As far as getting 1-shot by a Borg Cube: it happens to everyone at times. :)

questerius 04-10-2013 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by malakhglitch (Post 9158401)
I also asked what a good end-game ship for a Science Officer was a couple of weeks ago and the most common suggestions were Vesta, Wells and Fleet Nova.

I love playing the regular Nova and Intrepid. Haven't played their T5 or fleet versions nor have i touched the Vesta so can't really comment on that.

Looking at how resilient a regular Intrepid is in Aegis or Reman gear i would play with those before spending a lot of cash on fleet/C-store versions.

When i fly my Intrepid i rarely get killed, in fact i never got killed since last week's update and i tanked gates, tac cubes and donatra.

Edit: why not test the Mirror Deep Space or Mirror Reconnaissance. Not too expensive at exchange last time i checked

nicha0 04-10-2013 05:23 PM

Not a science ship, and right now not in a box, but soon you'll be able to buy fleet modules when the fleet chimera becomes available, its uni lt cmd slot gives you enough science to useful, but not overly wasteful like sci vessel, plus escort style weapons and abilities.

jadensecura 04-10-2013 05:53 PM

You definitely already have the best PvE sci ship with the Vesta. The Ens. uni lets it mimic both the Recon Sci and DSSV, as well as their Mirror versions, plus the T5 Intrepid, and the dual cannons and Aux DHCs boost its capabilities enormously. That said, sci ships in general are not in a good place right now, sci abilities generally are weak, so there's a lot of merit to the common suggestion that everyone should run an escort (and the Mirror Patrol Escort is nice and cheap if you want to try it). If you want one of those with some sci capability the MVAE and Fleet Advanced Escort both have LtC sci slots, so you can pack a GW with some standard escort capabilities.

warmaker001b 04-10-2013 05:53 PM

OP, it depends on what you really want to do.

If you want to be all about damage as a Sci Officer, put your captain in an Escort. The Feds have a GREAT selection of faction specific escorts to choose from, depending on your tastes. After all, this game is heavily, heavily slanted towards "DPS or Nothing," judging by instance time and kill requirements that permeate this game. I won't blame you for stuffing your Sci Officer in one.

If you want to use alot of Sci abilities, Starfleet has a great stable of sci vessels. Within these ships you'll see different groupings depending on BOFF assignments. The list is here.

In general, there's 3 styles of Sci Vessels, depending on what they're slanted towards.

TAC - A good dose of TAC BOFF assignments. Fleet Nova (Fleet Science Vessel Retrofit) is an excellent example and an actually tempting choice. Other than being the only Starfleet designed Sci Vessel with TAC BOFF slot higher than Lt, it boasts a nice turn rate of 15, which is Escort territory.

ENG - A good helping of ENG BOFF assignments, makes for a much more rugged Sci Vessel and options for toying around more with subsystem power. A good example is the underrated Fleet Adv.Research Vessel Retrofit (Fleet Nebula). Can be made quite rugged, which is a nice plus in PVP and ESTFs. The Fleet Research Science Vessel Retrofit is in a somewhat similar role with the Nebula as having nice Engineering, but it is also more nimbler than the Nebula but less hull. The Fleet Nebula is the closest thing you will have as a Fed in STO to play alot of Sci stuff but still want to have the "feel" of a TNG style of Cruiser. Nothing else in the Fed lineup will bring that immersion.

SCI - All in for Sci BOFF abilities. If you want to sling out Science abilities like Escorts throw out torpedoes and cannon fire, than these ships are what you want. Examples include the Intrepids, Fleet Reconnaissance Science Vessel, and ever popular Fleet Deep Space Science Vessel

malakhglitch 04-10-2013 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by questerius (Post 9158761)
Edit: why not test the Mirror Deep Space or Mirror Reconnaissance. Not too expensive at exchange last time i checked

Because I have low funds and a cheap bastard especially since Romulans are coming in May. :D:P

Seriously, it's because I find it hard getting EC above 200k since I am a casual player.:o

captainobvious09 04-10-2013 06:21 PM

I just came back after not playing for a long time, and much of the stuff, I got dirt cheap, and stockpiled is worth money now, so I am sitting about 60mil.

The state of the game does have me saddened as I love pure science and have several science ships including C-Store ones, but ... damage is king now, and science is nerfed due to PVP balance.

I also love Carriers but the ones that do not move are just annoying to me, so that is why I purchased the Vesta, but it too does not seem to bring enough heat.

At this point I am thinking the Jem Heavy Escort Carrier, or the Temporal Destroyer.

Does anyone have any other ideas, please share. (or I could wait until Roms comes out)

snoggymack22 04-10-2013 07:33 PM

Jem'Hadar Attack Ship is the best ship in a box for Science Captains. And Tactical Captains. And Engineering Captains.

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