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b3tazoid 04-15-2013 09:47 AM

What space set? - Mobius
Hello guys,

I currently fly a Mobius temporal destroyer, and was wondering what space set to go for. I just hit tier IV omega rep, and currently use the mk X assimilated set, which lets face it, at mk X isn't cutting it anymore.

I have enough money to buy the full Aegis set, or I can get mk XI omega, MACO or assimilated. I'd preferably not wait until tier V, as that will be an awful long while.

Weapons wise, I use 3 advanced fleet antiproton dual heavy cannons accx2 dmgx2, an advanced fleet antiproton dual beam bank accx2 dmgx2, and on the back 2 advanced fleet antiproton turrets accx2 dmgx2, and a cutting beam (I also have the assimilated module)

I've heard that the MACO shields are pretty hench, but I do like the tractor beam from the assimilated set, and the tetryon glider from omega looks cool, an-AAAARRGGGGH!

What do you guys think? :D

jadensecura 04-15-2013 10:18 AM

MACO shield is very nice for survival, and could simply be paired with your other Assimilated pieces, so that's the cheapest option to arguably enhance your performance. But really, the difference between Mk X and Mk XII for any set is tiny, so your Mk X Assimilated is practically a Mk XII Assimilated, which should get you through stuff readily enough. I'd save the resources until T5 Omega and then pick a final set and get it at Mk XII. AEGIS is in general inferior to any of the Omega rep sets, some people like it for particular capabilities it gives but as a rule it tends to be weaker, so I wouldn't bother with it.

b3tazoid 04-15-2013 10:25 AM

So you're saying wait till mk XII MACO? got it.

I have to say, you don't see many people using the Omega set. That's normally a sign xD

bugspatteredjack 04-15-2013 11:04 AM

I own both the XI and the XII Borg set and there is a good increase in hull strength (how much I can't recall now, but it is noticeable). The tractor beam is nice and does wonders with KCB. I have read but have yet to try the MACO shields and two piece Borg set. However, if your waiting to get the XII set (which I recommend in the end) I'd personally go for the AEGIS set itself as it improves with your level and should tie you over until you can get the XII kit from the rep system.

I do own the Mobius as my primary and yeah, its a great ship and the Borg set compliments it nicely.

EDIT: Don't forget the borg conoles and if torps are your thing, the Omega Torp; Borg Centric....

admgreer 04-15-2013 11:09 AM

Borg XII set with Cutting beam and Borg console FTW. can't go wrong

coupaholic 04-15-2013 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by b3tazoid (Post 9230901)
So you're saying wait till mk XII MACO? got it.

I have to say, you don't see many people using the Omega set. That's normally a sign xD

I drained all my resources into a Mk XII Omega set over the weekend as my first Mk XII space set after reaching T5. My main reason was it is the only set I've yet to really play with, since I've already used Borg, MACO and KHG in the past.

I actually really like it, perhaps because my ship build is ideally suited to it. As an engineer I can survive without the extra shield or hull strength other sets provide. The targeting bonus is handy since my main damage is in subsystem targeting attacks, as is the 2 set bonus since I use tetryon weapons exclusively. The shield is very good too, energy wake kicks in quite often and it recharges in no time at all.

So all in all I'm pretty happy with it, which is good since I'm not going to be able to afford another Mk XII set in sometime!

szerontzur 04-15-2013 04:21 PM

I recommend against the Aegis set. It's useful for some cruisers that can get away with hull tanking, but not advisable on most other ships.

MACO is good for ships running high weapons power and have a paper hull.

Borg set is king for high shield/aux science ships and cruisers.

Omega is nice for shield strippers and setups that make use of Beam Overloads to sink torpedos into naked hulls.

reginamala78 04-15-2013 04:59 PM

Honestly I'm happy with Mk11 on the STF sets, because on engines it only affects Full Impulse speed, on the deflector its a skill difference of I think 1.8 per skill (which is unnoticeable), and even on the shield its something like 97% the capacity. In exchange, once you add in the extra cost in marks and BNPs to the dil difference, the Mk12 ends up costing almost twice as much for such a tiny improvement. 12 is worth if you're the kind of player that needs to squeeze every last drop of performance out of your ship, but for general use, Mk11 works just fine.

For a Mobius, a solid combo is to use the MACO shield and Borg engine/deflector for the hull heal, or Omega engine/deflector for the tetryon glider and better turning. Full MACO is useful for maxed out tanking, but for a temporal destroyer its probably better to further emphasize your offensive strengths.

jornado 04-16-2013 10:18 PM

Personally my recommendation is Aegis until you hit t5 for the XII stuff. However, in many cases elite/advanced fleet gear can be superior to any single set with 2 bonuses.

I use Aegis and Fleet elite shield or pure Aegis for PvP, full Borg XII for PvE. The reason for Aegis in PvP is maxed defense, with the Hyper engine speed bonus and 10% 2-piece defense bonus, speed tanking is supremely effective. If I am running a build based on high hull resist (facing multiple transphasic builds for inastance) I run full Aegis for the total 15% resist proc stack.

Borg works great for PvE since speed tanking is less effective, and you are dealing with more sustained damage than super spike, giving the procs time to do their job.

I used MACO shields for a while, but at Mk XI the shield cap is almost identical to Aegis, albeit with lower bleed but lacking the resist proc. I found MACO to be severely overrated in most situations, although I still pop it on when facing drain builds to offset power loss.

Full MACO set can be used in a mobius temporal exploitation build to further reduce cool downs if you have the tipler console and temporal warfare set.

All in all, the mobius is a flexible ship and to make the most use out of it you can be very flexible in set your build. But I recommend waiting on MACO/Borg gear until you can get XII.

Plus, combine Aegis graphics with the Aeon skin on the M?bius and it looks stunning.


shar487a 04-17-2013 11:33 AM

I switch between Mk XII sets as needed on my Mobius as needed depending on the present build.

-For a plasma-torp spammer, Adapted MACO or Reman Deflector + Reman Engines + Elite Fleet Shield [Adapt] [Cap] [Reg] work very well.

-For fleet actions like SB24, KSF, and GMF, the Omega set's Tetryon Glider helps me pad my numbers to take 1st place on a consistent basis.

-For increased survivability and some PVP, Borg Mk XII's auto-regen procs work very well

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