Originally Posted by jestersage
For a certain reason, I decide to rewatch the Wrath of Khan, and I am not saying it's a bad movie. Yet, in light of JJ, what do you makes it special, and what make it different from JJTrek?
Okay, well...we'll start with a few basics.
1. special effects: wrath of Khan was a movie that used SFX as a garnish, the main meal wasn't the eye-candy.
2. Storyline/scripting: because the SFX wasn't the point of the movie, the actors had to actually tell a story. This differs from the TNG films more than it differs from the Abrams flick, but there were fewer logical inconsistencies in Wrath of Khan, in part because it had a simpler, shorter, more directed and CLEANER storyline that only HINTED at events prior, as opposed to trying to develop the entire 'universe' from scratch in 2 hours.
3. Acting: Shatner was Jim Kirk for YEARS, Pine was Jim Kirk for less than A year. There were fewer teething problem as a result.
4. Expectation: The audience's expectations were vastly different, this made Wrath of Khan a much easier 'sell' than the 2009 Abrams flick. Wrath of Khan's Kirk had a long history with the Audience, Pine's Kirk was this new guy, no history with the audience, no prior development from a beloved teevee series, even the point in the careers is radically different, as was the backstory. ST (2009 version) was an introduction piece, ST:WOK was a continuation piece, the expectations are VERY different because the Products end up being VERY different.
5. Production Values: people put hard numbers on this and really shouldn't-Abrams did a lot of 'experimental' crap just because he could (See comment 1), the budget for Wrath of Khan was lavish for it's time, but tighter than most films today could be made with, and they didn't have cgi, so most of the effects were practical
effects-which in turn limited their use quite a bit, so extraneous material was cut prior to filming (the benefit of hard budgets), this is similar to having a professional edit your written stories-remove the extraneous material, tighten up the dialogue, 'show' rather than 'tell' and 'hint' rather than 'show'...and it worked at the time, and still works today.