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warpet 05-14-2013 03:03 AM

give us gear score?
can u put gear score here and lock elite stf to everyone who dont have full epic gear,so much ppl coming there whit mx10 or worse gear since they dont need better gear to can enter:mad:

shakesfistatsky 05-14-2013 03:09 AM

No...absolutely not. I have all MkXii purples and I loathe this elitist nonsense. It's ythe height of arrogance to limit someone else's enjoyment of the game because they're pixels aren't purple enough for you. If that's what you want go back to WOW.

hasukurobi 05-14-2013 03:17 AM

MK X whites can handle Elite STF's. It is a matter of what are Captaining, what sort of Captain you are, and if you know what you are doing. So your proposal OP is completely unnecessary.

fiberteksyfir 05-14-2013 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by hasukurobi (Post 9919751)
MK X whites can handle Elite STF's. It is a matter of what are Captaining, what sort of Captain you are, and if you know what you are doing. So your proposal OP is completely unnecessary.

Truth here.

How you fly your ship is more important than the actual gear that's on it for the most part. Even the most horribly kitted ships can still do eSTFs with little effort if abilities and chaining is done correctly.

smokeybacon90 05-14-2013 03:34 AM

Can't play STFs because I don't have reputation gear because I can't play STFs because I don't have reputation gear....

Yeah, bad idea. :D

plox21 05-14-2013 03:43 AM

NOOooo!!!!!!!!!!....Gear score should never step foot in STO...NEVER!!!!.

aleaic 05-14-2013 03:50 AM

Absolutely... utterly... unequivocally NOT a chance. A good fleet / friends that teach everything to know about doing STFs right, is infinitely better than the digital discrimination, that GearScore has turned 'certain' MMOs into.

And go to the Elite STF channels, if you want a better quality player, for an ESTF. Pugging Elites straight up, has essentially never been a good idea, anyway.

latiasracer 05-14-2013 05:28 AM

This would not be fair. How would you get the marks for the gear in the first place lol?.

What we should have, is more tips on loading screens!

"Use special ship equipment unlocked through the reputation system to give you a survival edge in STF's!"

"Using all one type of energy weapon helps conserve power, Dealing more damage over time"

I can't think of any more, but things along those lines

hevach 05-14-2013 05:46 AM

Gear score has been a bad thing in every game that's used it (most of which it's a player creation, not a game feature). It feeds a mentality of itemlevel over all else, so you see bizarre things like rogues with caster daggers and mages with attack power rings or tanks with cloth gloves because those are the highest ilevel items outside of raids.

The only good thing I can say about it is that every WoW expansion while I played, a last-tier raider could get a high enough gearscore to break the mod, then he could make the fools rage in dungeons about his abnormally low gearscore, and solo the first pull without a tank to show off while they tried to vote him out.

The difference between white and purple gear is about 15% - about the difference between blue and purple in WoW. The difference between a rainbow ship and a "proper" build is even less - about 3% per console after skill points come into play.

A team of escorts in full purples with good builds should be doing around 200-400% MORE damage than is needed to hit the DPS checks. Gear accounts for approximately nothing in a margin like that.

sollvax 05-14-2013 05:58 AM

if you aren't good enough to do an elite with white mk X you belong on normals

however how about blocking anyone who has full maco from ground stfs

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