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ajma420 07-07-2013 03:21 PM

Escorts do not belong in CCE
I'm not gonna lie, but I like flying escorts as they are unmatched in damage potential, but if you use an escort, please stay out of Crystalline Catastrophe Elite (CCE). I have gotten really frustrated with escort flyers since the super-buff of CCE. They get in, kill the tholians, start attacking the CE , die three or four times, and leave.

The problem is, in every other STF, escorts are great because they just outkill enemies before they kill them, but that doesn't work for the CE. Now, could an escort with a total AP resist and survival build hold their own? Yea sure, but there are very, very few players who do. The fact is, in order to be effective in CCE, you need to be alive to shoot it.

So Escorts, I still enjoy playing with you, but please stay out of CCE.

badvaio 07-07-2013 03:26 PM

Do you have a list of ships you think would be suitable for CCE ?

Please list weapon types, BO skills etc.

thlaylierah 07-07-2013 03:34 PM

Maybe they should FIX the CCE to accommodate the Escort style instead of blocking out a ship type.

ajma420 07-07-2013 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by thlaylierah (Post 11277991)
Maybe they should FIX the CCE to accommodate the Escort style instead of blocking out a ship type.

no, they shouldn't. The elite STFs have different levels of damage potential to be dealt by enemies.

in order of least damage dealt by enemies to most

Most of this is because of the # of battleship, dreadnought, and in CCE's case, capital class enemies.

and of course, higher enemy damage potential is bad news for low-hull ships

and as to your signature - this isnt a "I have a sandwich so why are you hungry" post, its a "If you are a vegetarian, why did you order a burger" post.

rattler2 07-07-2013 04:03 PM

Asking for Escorts to not take part effectively cuts off... 50%-75% of the game's population at least. I'd take an Escort in and fight, but I would stay and continue to fight. Knowing how to fly an Escort is key to survival. But some people decide that More Dakka is better for survival as "what is already dead can't kill you". Me... I try and maintain a more balanced setup.

hevach 07-07-2013 04:04 PM

If they're dying to the CE to the point that they're giving up, that's either their own fault, or because nobody even tries to remove the stacking buffs - it's entirely survivable as long as the buffs aren't piling up and you don't try to park and shoot at close range.

And it's probably the buff, because in every run I've done, normal or elite, I've only once seen somebody other than me helping on that. And even with a power slot given over to tachyon beam my average deaths per run in CCE is less than 1, and most of my deaths are to the shockwave, not the matter conversion beam.

ajma420 07-07-2013 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by badvaio (Post 11277901)
Do you have a list of ships you think would be suitable for CCE ?

Please list weapon types, BO skills etc.

I don't have all day to list ships. but I will say that most any heavy cruiser or carrier should be fine. I personally used the Falchion Dreadnought and got 1st and 2nd place my last two attempts.

For weapons, DHCs are great as the CE doesn't move after part 1. DBBs are also good for those who can't use DHCs. I ran a 6 single beam setup once, but thats not that great.

BOff powers - Tac - focus on damage spikes, not spread, also, you NEED TT
Eng - RSP, EPtS, APtS, etc. go all heal, Aceton beam is very useful too
Sci - TSS, HE, TBR - for the shards

badvaio 07-07-2013 04:08 PM

Any colour preference ?

thlaylierah 07-07-2013 04:24 PM

This is like saying, "No Cool Kids Allowed."

krenzik 07-07-2013 04:26 PM

Actually, if people went in and had some vague clue what to do or take advice from those who do without pitching a SWOTOR-caliber fit or just ragequitting, that would make it a lot easier no matter what you flew.

I've taken my Caitian in his temporal destroyer and my alien tac in her defiant and managed to not only live but contribute significantly to the effort. It's not the ship it's the person flying it.

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