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howiebabey82 07-21-2013 04:59 AM

tactical, rcs console help
 
this is for my deridex fleet version i am not expecting a lot im simply thinking every little bit helps

alright first can i get fleet prefire chambers and if i use 2 will i get the damage out of them or is there a limit to how many i can use? i guess what im asking is are they stackable?

second engineer rcs accelerators i am thinking about getting 4 fleet level ones in the future not set in stone i have a fleet deridex im also getting a fleet engine so is there a limit?

tenkari 07-21-2013 05:32 AM

tac consoles stack, but remember, its only BASE damage that they increase the percentage of, not after all your modifiers and such.

I believe rcs consoles stack, but again, base turn rate increase only.

baudl 07-21-2013 05:34 AM

fleet prefire chambers? i don't think those exist, even if they did, they suck compared to tac consoles that buff a particular weapon type (disruptor coils, phaser relays, ...)

yes all tac buff cosnole stack without diminishing returns.

fleet rcs certainly can make your ship turn better, but when you are at a point where you want 4 of those, i believe you might not want to fly a cruiser in the first place. One is OK, with 2 you already need to sacrifice important +dmg consoles (zero point, assimilated, tachokynetic?,) or other important consoles (2 set console for the d'deridex)

also the rcs have no diminishing return, but buff only your base turnrate...so even with 2 rcs with 40% increase you are looking at a possible 2 - 3 degree turnrate increase. at the cost of valuable console space. imho definately not worth it.

even though d'deridex can use DHC, it's questionable to do so.

howiebabey82 07-21-2013 11:44 AM

prefire chamber against plasma distribution manifold
 
im using cannons and turrets on it im getting fleet engines so that will help with the turning on it

waweri 07-21-2013 12:51 PM

Wait what; when did they change the whole console stacking thing? I took two long breaks from the game and I swore that you had to juggle the weapon damage and the energy damage ones.

hevach 07-21-2013 01:02 PM

They never changed it. It's been the same since the big skill revamp (season 5 I think?), and the only difference before that was that the beam and cannon consoles gave the same boost as the energy type ones, with the penalty for mixing energy types being built into the skill system.

dahminus 07-21-2013 09:11 PM

Tax consoles stack and it is very much recommended you go full in with the energy type of your choice. Meaning if you use 3 antiproton and 1 quantum, use full mag regulators (the anti proton tac console) and no quantum tac consoles for best results

Rcs consoles do stack but with diminishing returns...say you have a +40%, a +38% and a +36% set of consoles equipped. The +40% gives you the full benefit to your base turn, the +38% gives you half for 19% and the +36% only give a quarter for 9%.

I am under the impression that the game calculates the console with the most turn rate first, then applies the half diminishing return to the second highest and so on...

2 is already a shaky proposition and beyond that is a crap shoot. Best to look at skills and trying to maintain a higher impulse speed as speed grants turn rate,

simeion1 07-22-2013 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dahminus (Post 11520461)

Rcs consoles do stack but with diminishing returns...say you have a +40%, a +38% and a +36% set of consoles equipped. The +40% gives you the full benefit to your base turn, the +38% gives you half for 19% and the +36% only give a quarter for 9%.,

I think you are wrong here. Take a ship with a turn rate of 10 with a 40% boost from a console. Your turn rate moves to 14. Your next console will move your turn rate to 18. It is all based off your initial turn rate of the ship. Then your thruster skill and other resources come into play. To check for yourself check in Sol system space and add one console at a time. If they are the same you can see to boost step up e same amount as you add one at a time.

dahminus 07-22-2013 10:55 PM

have tested and my findings with diminished returns were correct. pics incoming tommorow

frtoaster 07-22-2013 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahminus (Post 11520461)
Rcs consoles do stack but with diminishing returns...say you have a +40%, a +38% and a +36% set of consoles equipped. The +40% gives you the full benefit to your base turn, the +38% gives you half for 19% and the +36% only give a quarter for 9%.

I am under the impression that the game calculates the console with the most turn rate first, then applies the half diminishing return to the second highest and so on...

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Originally Posted by dahminus (Post 11537641)
have tested and my findings with diminished returns were correct. pics incoming tommorow

The last time I tested RCS accelerators, they did not have diminishing returns. After the changes in Legacy of Romulus, an RCS accelerator increases your turn rate by the stated percentage of your ship's base turn rate. The percentage applies the ship's base turn rate, not the turn rate displayed in the "Movement" section of your ship status window.


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