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tacofangs 11-09-2013 01:02 PM

New LCARS Looks bad here:
 
You may have noticed our new LCARS textures are in. Thomas the Cat made a new texture sheet for the LCARS, and we save over the old, blue texture.

As such, this texture will now auto-propagate to anywhere that was using the old blue textures. (That's Good!)

However, people over the years have been sloppy, and unwrapped consoles in hideous ways. (That's Bad.)

The old, blue, blurry texture hid the bad unwrap jobs people had done. (That's Good!)

But the new texture, which is clearer, and higher res, will now make those terrible unwraps very apparent. (That's Bad.)

Unfortunately, there is no magic fix. We have to go through object by object and correct the UVs. I can't guarantee when that will happen. It will take a while.

But you can help! Post here with a screenshot of a cruddy Unwrap, and tell us where you found this piece. This means anything that looks stretchy, wonky, flipped, upside down, backwards, whatever. I'm going to correct the most commonly used assets shortly after this goes to Holodeck, but there are likely many small, one off pieces that are going to be ugly.

Again, there is no promised timeline here, it will happen when I have a chance to touch them up.

Here are some examples of bad UVs:
(I'll take some shots and put them here on Monday)


Thanks

starkaos 11-09-2013 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tacofangs (Post 13354511)
As such, this texture will now auto-propagate to anywhere that was using the old blue textures. (That's Good!)

However, people over the years have been sloppy, and unwrapped consoles in hideous ways. (That's Bad.)

The old, blue, blurry texture hid the bad unwrap jobs people had done. (That's Good!)

But the new texture, which is clearer, and higher res, will now make those terrible unwraps very apparent. (That's Bad.)

Is anyone else getting a Simpson's vibe from this post besides me?

daveyny 11-09-2013 07:09 PM

I'm already in a state of P A N I C !!

<chuckle>

:cool:

capnkirk4 11-09-2013 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starkaos (Post 13357481)
Is anyone else getting a Simpson's vibe from this post besides me?

I don't even know what he's talking about, but it sounds like something else got "fixed", and is, in all likelihood, going to stay that way.

starkaos 11-09-2013 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capnkirk4 (Post 13357771)
I don't even know what he's talking about, but it sounds like something else got "fixed", and is, in all likelihood, going to stay that way.

Basically, the updated LCARS graphics in Season 8 will cause graphical problems that used the old blue LCARS and Tacofangs needs help to locate every instance of it since it is slow and painful work for just him to do.

The Simpsons vibe is from the That's Good and That's Bad comments.

tacofangs 11-10-2013 02:06 AM

I'll update with some examples on Monday when I get back in. It's not on Holodeck until Tuesday, and at that point, all I'm asking is for people to post images/locations for places where the new LCARS looks weird, or if the old Blue LCARS is still being used.

zerobang 11-10-2013 02:46 AM

OMG... i have been so waiting for this to happen!

...so if we see things like this

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...2-12-41-29.jpg

you want us to say something?

twam 11-10-2013 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerobang (Post 13360071)
OMG... i have been so waiting for this to happen!

...so if we see things like this

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...2-12-41-29.jpg

you want us to say something?

Ooh, that's actually pretty cool. Can we get that as an alternative bridge skin? Looks like the Federation decided to assimilate the Borg instead.

capnkirk4 11-10-2013 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starkaos (Post 13359101)
Basically, the updated LCARS graphics in Season 8 will cause graphical problems that used the old blue LCARS and Tacofangs needs help to locate every instance of it since it is slow and painful work for just him to do.

The Simpsons vibe is from the That's Good and That's Bad comments.

So there shouldn't be any more blue LCARS? They're all over the place! Every computer panel in the game has them. This is a priority?

jeffel82 11-10-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by capnkirk4 (Post 13362231)
So there shouldn't be any more blue LCARS? They're all over the place! Every computer panel in the game has them. This is a priority?

For the most part, as tacofangs noticed, it's just a straight texture swap, and most console panels will update automatically.

But some of them will look ugly, and will need to be fixed manually.

And in some cases, blue LCARS will sneak through. I'm not sure how simple that will be to fix.

And tacofangs said he'll be doing the fixes slowly, on his own time. So what's the big deal?

As for what I've noticed on Tribble...

Ship Interiors
  • Virtually the entire shuttle interior still has blue LCARS (see here and here).
  • Ship interior Sickbay has multiple small and large instances of blue LCARS, including the round console seen all over the game (see here and here).

Earth Spacedock
  • Many, many wall displays on ESD still have blue LCARS. Notably, the ridiculous, 50-foot displays at the Exchange, and the large displays in the shipyard (exterior, before you take the turbolift) (see here, here, here, and here).
  • There's one particular recurring console that has blue LCARS. It's a crescent-shaped console with a square display on one side of it. Examples of it can be found in the ESD centre room, around the holodisplay (see here).

All of these examples can be found at SB39 and K7 as well.


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