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Archived Post 02-01-2010 07:11 PM

Play a Klingon till T3 if you think we need a nerf!
 
Lord knows we all gave the Federation side a try... Open Beta I played both sides to Lt. Commander 8, the fed ball was amazing... We won more then lost in 5v5... Klingon side now is no different... Except we have equal gear in T1 and you can see the difference in tactics at T1 as well...

Anyways - play to T3, send kujo@mojokujo a group invit for verification, and then tell me Klingons need to be nerfed! Anytime you Feds want to win a match, jump into science and cruiser ships and ball up!

Archived Post 02-01-2010 07:12 PM

I play'd klingons T2 in beta, when it was hard..

I think klingons need a nerf.

Way too many advantages now. In Beta, it was hard, but it was a challenge and with a bit of coordination, it was pretty even. Now.. klingons just win 90% of the arena matches with the same tactic.

Sorry, but you guys are going to get nerfed. Deal with it.

Archived Post 02-01-2010 07:29 PM

It's been said before but..
In tier 1 the Klingons obviously have the advantage as most feds are coming in on newbie starter gear.

But in tier 2 especially later levels the feds catch up with their greater gear and the Klingons are rather limited since we barely have any content.

As it is, my shields get taken down instantly by even cruisers or science. I have to constantly rotate to show different sides, pop bo abilities like a madman, then most likely am forced to do a combat cloak.
And we can't do most of our damage in our escorts if we are facing to the side as you guys can. So our lack of equal gear, and lack of cruisers in tier2 makes every match a challenge unless the feds are really dumb and just run in solo.

Archived Post 02-01-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Proletariat12
It's been said before but..
In tier 1 the Klingons obviously have the advantage as most feds are coming in on newbie starter gear.

But in tier 2 especially later levels the feds catch up with their greater gear and the Klingons are rather limited since we barely have any content.

As it is, my shields get taken down instantly by even cruisers or science. I have to constantly rotate to show different sides, pop bo abilities like a madman, then most likely am forced to do a combat cloak.
And we can't do most of our damage in our escorts if we are facing to the side as you guys can. So our lack of equal gear, and lack of cruisers in tier2 makes every match a challenge unless the feds are really dumb and just run in solo.

^^^ agree with all this , kling player here .. played beta to ltcom 8 on feds

Archived Post 02-01-2010 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojokujo
Lord knows we all gave the Federation side a try... Open Beta I played both sides to Lt. Commander 8, the fed ball was amazing... We won more then lost in 5v5... Klingon side now is no different... Except we have equal gear in T1 and you can see the difference in tactics at T1 as well...

Anyways - play to T3, send kujo@mojokujo a group invit for verification, and then tell me Klingons need to be nerfed! Anytime you Feds want to win a match, jump into science and cruiser ships and ball up!

A bunch of us played up to tier 5 and KDF just get better and better after tier 2. If any of them actually took the time to play to the higher tiers on our side there would be an even bigger clamour. Tier 4 is lots of fun as both sides are evenly balanced, Sci ships give feds the edge but we have cloak to add to tactics to try and counter them. It's no longer "Oh squishy, take him out first", it's more a case of working out levels of threats and back up plans when CC is used.

Archived Post 02-01-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sephirius (Post 1860655)
I play'd klingons T2 in beta, when it was hard..

I think klingons need a nerf.

Way too many advantages now. In Beta, it was hard, but it was a challenge and with a bit of coordination, it was pretty even. Now.. klingons just win 90% of the arena matches with the same tactic.

Sorry, but you guys are going to get nerfed. Deal with it.

Prove to me some balance changes have been made since beta. I haven't seen any in the patch notes.

Archived Post 02-01-2010 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SpaghettiMonster
Prove to me some balance changes have been made since beta. I haven't seen any in the patch notes.

Yeah not one patch has nerfed or twinked the other side except t1... I personally love it as it is... Hard core losses included.

I just want faction chat and increased user interface.

Archived Post 02-01-2010 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephirius (Post 1860655)
I play'd klingons T2 in beta, when it was hard..

I think klingons need a nerf.

Way too many advantages now. In Beta, it was hard, but it was a challenge and with a bit of coordination, it was pretty even. Now.. klingons just win 90% of the arena matches with the same tactic.

Sorry, but you guys are going to get nerfed. Deal with it.

Sorry if you are that poor of a player or are on unorganized teams. I see both sides winning. The best ORGANIZED teams and the ones who stay on ONE target will always perform better than an unorganized grp. Pre-made grps will almost always win because they have built a group to do just that. Let it play out a bit more and then make changes if needed.

What they need to do is fill the teams on both sides before starting the game. Just like other games Q up the roster then start the game once that is done.

Archived Post 02-01-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojokujo
Lord knows we all gave the Federation side a try... Open Beta I played both sides to Lt. Commander 8, the fed ball was amazing... We won more then lost in 5v5... Klingon side now is no different... Except we have equal gear in T1 and you can see the difference in tactics at T1 as well...

Anyways - play to T3, send kujo@mojokujo a group invit for verification, and then tell me Klingons need to be nerfed! Anytime you Feds want to win a match, jump into science and cruiser ships and ball up!

its same in T2, Cruisers and Science ships = unwinnable with pugs and even with premade its not a certainity that you will win. like ungrouped 5 FED cruisers in a pile will *****lap 70%+ of the premades.

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DEVS, nerfed us in OB (more noobs who comed to play didnt know how to play Feds and started QQing/Crying/Whining/Sobbing/yelling for mom etc).

And now someone is saying we are getting a nerf in prelaunch, and possible in the future.

Now let me say this much, you can keep your retarded game where your Developer tongue goes so deep into casual fed players aft that i dont wanna be any part of it.

T1 feds are flying and sunday driving in white gear, ups they get their ass handed to themselves by PvP players, big suprise.

T2 Feds get Cruisers, WOAH i wanna fly a big bad cruiser, and guess what, its so OP ship in T2 that in general team with the most Cruisers wins, and btw Klingons have none.

T3 Ive got reports that Fed gearing is so OP compared to Klink side that Cruisers can take 5 players for over 30 seconds and even survive as Klingon side looses ships more faster then Feds. Part of the problem is Federation Alpha when 1st guy uncloaks. (1st burst comes from Feds)

T4 no reports/info

T5 no reports/info

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Now ive talked about the 1st burst from Fed side but no one thinks about the problem, Klingons have frontal attack, so when one of us is devestated from start and he looses his shields INSTANTLY upon decloacking, he has to face away and start tanking = ZERO Dps.

On fed side they keep shooting coz of wide arcs.

So basically in every tier from 2->5, the 5vs5 games are not 5vs5 games, they are 5 vs 4 (4 Klinks and one tank who cant face the target).

You can argue that one Klingon should use wide arc weapons, but be realistic, was the game really developed that in mind ? short answer , it wasnt.

---------- Devs Stop listening to Federation Whiners , Listen to CB OB Prelaunch Klingon players who 99% say how it is ------------

Archived Post 02-01-2010 11:35 PM

Seriously I agree with the OP if you think klingons have it so easy play one learn that you have no PvE content so all you can do is PvP and so of course you and your team all who do the same will be the in same situation

Personal I only do ground PvP because my ship gets blown up so much in space against a fed ball I gont see it as any fun.


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