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megacharge07 01-07-2014 09:33 AM

Reflective Immunity Matrix bugged when used on Bulwark
 
As the title says there is an issue with the Bulwark and the Omni-shield. I was testing it in PvP with a buddy of mine the other day, and while it was up, he was able to damage me through the Omni-shield, somehow damage was bleeding through to my hull which it's not supposed to do. All shield facings were up prior to activating it.

Also I noticed something else as well, today when I played The Breach, I noticed that some of the damage I and the other guys were doing to the Bulwarks in that mission was bleeding through their Omni-shields. This isn't supposed to happen as per the descriptor and by design the Omni-shield is immune to all damage for it's duration. Please look into this, as it is not functioning correctly.

Thank you.

hanover2 01-07-2014 09:36 AM

Is it supposed to be immune to the various ways to get some shield penetration out of energy weapons?

opo98 01-07-2014 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by megacharge07 (Post 14386681)
As the title says there is an issue with the Bulwark and the Omni-shield. I was testing it in PvP with a buddy of mine the other day, and while it was up, he was able to damage me through the Omni-shield, somehow damage was bleeding through to my hull which it's not supposed to do. All shield facings were up prior to activating it.

Also I noticed something else as well, today when I played The Breach, I noticed that some of the damage I and the other guys were doing to the Bulwarks in that mission was bleeding through their Omni-shields. This isn't supposed to happen as per the descriptor and by design the Omni-shield is immune to all damage for it's duration. Please look into this, as it is not functioning correctly.

Thank you.

Was he using plasma weapons or protonic polaron? These procs do tend to damage you through your omnishield.

megacharge07 01-07-2014 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by hanover2 (Post 14386701)
Is it supposed to be immune to the various ways to get some shield penetration out of energy weapons?

Yes, immune to 100k damage means immune to 100k damage. It means you take 0 damage while that shield is up either for 20 seconds or until 100k damage has been dealt to the shield, then it collapses.

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Originally Posted by opo98 (Post 14386711)
Was he using plasma weapons or protonic polaron? These procs do tend to damage you through your omnishield.

Plasma and other energy types. The description says immune though, and the type of damage getting through was more than simple plasma burn, even still, it's immune to 100k of damage, period. So when that shield is up no plasma burn or any other procs should be getting through at all, and if they are, then according to the description it's bugged and those proc bleed throughs would need to be fixed. There are no exceptions listed or described in anyway and I never had a problem with bleed through before, this is just a recent thing that started happening. As for the Bulwarks in The Breach, I was 1v1'ing against one of them in the Breach as well, and my Disruptors were bleeding through it's Omni-shield.

The descriptor says "Damage immunity: shield will last 20 seconds or until it absorbs 100k damage pre-resists". That sounds to me like the ship is immune to damage until those shields absorb 100k damage or until the shields expire in 20 seconds.

hanover2 01-07-2014 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by megacharge07 (Post 14386901)
Yes, immune to 100k damage means immune to 100k damage. It means you take 0 damage while that shield is up either for 20 seconds or until 100k damage has been dealt to the shield, then it collapses.

You sound....less than authoritative about that. Are you positive that an attack that bypasses shields doesn't also bypass your Omnidirectional thingy?

megacharge07 01-07-2014 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hanover2 (Post 14387931)
You sound....less than authoritative about that. Are you positive that an attack that bypasses shields doesn't also bypass your Omnidirectional thingy?

Yes, because attacks that bypass shields deal damage. This shield grants you immunity to damage for 20 seconds or until the shield has absorbed 100k damage. I don't mean to sound rude or anything so please don't take this the wrong way, but I'm having trouble understanding what it is about immunity and 20 seconds or 100k damage that people don't understand.

If shield bypass attacks were meant to get through, it would state partial immunity to damage for 20 seconds or until shield has absorbed 100k damage. (does not prevent damage from shield bypass attacks) It is quite clear in the descriptor that it is immunity to damage ie: all damage.

adjective: Immune

1.
resistant to a particular infection or toxin owing to the presence of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells.
"they were naturally immune to hepatitis B"
protected or exempt, esp. from an obligation or the effects of something.
"they are immune from legal action"
synonyms: resistant to, not subject to, not liable to, unsusceptible to, not vulnerable to; More
protected from, safe from, secure against, not in danger of;
impervious to, invulnerable to, unaffected by

"they are immune to hepatitis B"
antonyms: susceptible
not affected or influenced by something.
"no one is immune to his immense charm"
Biology
of or relating to immunity.
"the body's immune system"

hanover2 01-07-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by megacharge07 (Post 14388011)
Yes, because attacks that bypass shields deal damage. This shield grants you immunity to damage for 20 seconds or until the shield has absorbed 100k damage. I don't mean to sound rude or anything so please don't take this the wrong way, but I'm having trouble understanding what it is about immunity and 20 seconds or 100k damage that people don't understand.

If shield bypass attacks were meant to get through, it would state partial immunity to damage for 20 seconds or until shield has absorbed 100k damage. (does not prevent damage from shield bypass attacks)

Immunity to shield damage, or immunity to all damage? A vital distinction, because if it's shield immunity only, I would expect hull damage when a shield bypass procs.

megacharge07 01-07-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hanover2 (Post 14388091)
Immunity to shield damage, or immunity to all damage? A vital distinction, because if it's shield immunity only, I would expect hull damage when a shield bypass procs.

I just explained it's ALL damage. If it wasn't it would clearly state that in the descriptor which it does not. Besides this just started happening a few days ago, it's a bug that crept in, bleed through damage wasn't an issue before.

hanover2 01-07-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by megacharge07 (Post 14388111)
I just explained it's ALL damage.

Post a screen shot of the in-game description text. Your pedantic copy-and-paste of a dictionary definition proves nothing, and your insistance that "it would state partial immunity" makes me wonder if you're assuming it's all damage. You might be taking "all weapon damage types" to mean "shield and hull damage" by mistake.

megacharge07 01-07-2014 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by hanover2 (Post 14388191)
Post a screen shot of the in-game description text. Your pedantic copy-and-paste of a dictionary definition proves nothing, and your insistance that "it would state partial immunity" makes me wonder if you're assuming it's all damage. You might be taking "all weapon damage types" to mean "shield and hull damage" by mistake.

Yeah with that attitude and blatant disregard for everything I posted, you've proven less than useful. I'll wait until a dev who has a firm grasp of the English language and it's definitions comes in so we can get some work done.


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