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chrisbrown12009 01-10-2014 05:14 PM

Alidar Jarok, father of Tiaru Jarok....a loyalty discussion.
 
Please no flaming, trolling.....all that.

Alidar was the Romulan for the the next gen episode "Defector"

http://en.memory-alpha.org/index.php/Alidar_Jarok

I wanted to discuss his loyalty. Is he a traitor or were his actions those of a man with the utmost loyalty to his people if not his government? Your thoughts?

aloishammer 01-10-2014 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisbrown12009 (Post 14439961)
Alidar was the Romulan for the the next gen episode "Defector"

Which STO mission is he in?

Riiiiight...Ten Forward's down the hall on the left.

chrisbrown12009 01-10-2014 05:22 PM

He wasnt in a mission. He was in the Star Trek: the next generation episode "Defector"

here

trek21 01-10-2014 05:34 PM

aloishammer was referring to the fact that, with few exceptions, most threads have to be about STO (feedback about Fed ships in the Fed Shipyards, for example).

Anything else, including about ST in general, must go to the Ten-Forward one

Sorry chris; I should have mentioned that earlier :o

chrisbrown12009 01-10-2014 05:41 PM

OHHHH.... Please move then....modders...

Id still like to discuss.

mirrorchaos 01-10-2014 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisbrown12009 (Post 14439961)
Please no flaming, trolling.....all that.

Alidar was the Romulan for the the next gen episode "Defector"

http://en.memory-alpha.org/index.php/Alidar_Jarok

I wanted to discuss his loyalty. Is he a traitor or were his actions those of a man with the utmost loyalty to his people if not his government? Your thoughts?

As far as the Romulans are concerned Jarok was a traitor and Picard even called him a traitor as well even though Jarok didn't want to admit it to himself. His loyalty was already in doubt well before the encounter on the enterprise in the neutral zone, that was the whole point in what happened on the episode no matter what he may of thought, the Romulan superstate didn't want him.

azniadeet 01-10-2014 06:08 PM

A true statesman of the people sometimes must be a traitor to the powers that be.

erei1 01-10-2014 06:10 PM

He did it for Romulus. He thought they were wrong, and tried to protect them, to prevent a war that would have decimated both his people and the Federation. He was tricked, but he didn't knew that.


As for his loyalty, I guess it was the loyalty of most parent, to his family first. Hero, traitor, the line is thin, in the end he was just a father.

chrisbrown12009 01-10-2014 06:33 PM

I believe he did what he did for the protection of his people. Consider those that started the U.S. It could be said they at one time betray their government yet they are called patriots. Could the same be said of jarok?

sander233 01-11-2014 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by erei1 (Post 14441041)
As for his loyalty, I guess it was the loyalty of most parent, to his family first. Hero, traitor, the line is thin, in the end he was just a father.

This
Quote:

Originally Posted by azniadeet (Post 14441021)
A true statesman of the people sometimes must be a traitor to the powers that be.

And this.

It is said that treason is a play in which the players and characters are not revealed until long after the final curtain.


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